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Old 10-02-2013, 07:32 AM   #1
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When we get the RWD variant, will we get the 3.5 Ecoboost as per the States? I think we should, because alot of these are used as ambulances. Think how many lives could be saved if the ambulance has the power to get to the hospital 10 minutes earlier or more.

...Also, a 3.5 twin turbo v6 in a van is just plain cool.


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Old 11-02-2013, 01:55 AM   #2
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What does everyone think, should we get the twin turbo Transit?
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Old 11-02-2013, 02:16 AM   #3
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Where will this one be made?
Turkey? Spain?
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The US-spec version will be made in Kansas City, Missouri.
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Imagine the carnage if the couriers got their hands on the ecoboost model
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Old 11-02-2013, 09:10 AM   #6
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When we get the RWD variant, will we get the 3.5 Ecoboost as per the States? I think we should, because alot of these are used as ambulances. Think how many lives could be saved if the ambulance has the power to get to the hospital 10 minutes earlier or more.

...Also, a 3.5 twin turbo v6 in a van is just plain cool.
Would be great but imagine the fuel bill eek.
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Old 11-02-2013, 09:35 AM   #7
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When we get the RWD variant, will we get the 3.5 Ecoboost as per the States? I think we should, because alot of these are used as ambulances. Think how many lives could be saved if the ambulance has the power to get to the hospital 10 minutes earlier or more.

...Also, a 3.5 twin turbo v6 in a van is just plain cool.
Transits as ambulances I have never seen one all the ones over here are Mercedes sprinters.
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all sprinters here as well.........
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Old 11-02-2013, 12:46 PM   #9
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I can't see the Ecoboost V6 making into Tranies outside of the Americas to be honest. Great to have 365Hp on tap, but when your mainly carting boxes of clothing, food or household stuff, I doubt all that power is needed.

As for ambulance work, performance was once important but now, I think they look for space and economy. The Sprinters are a very large van, have a pretty good power and torque output and the ones here in Victoria have a free BBQ built into them as well!

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Its a good looking tranny, you should find it sells globally and not just in Thailand

But seriously I don't think we'll get the V6 version here, i'd say it will be North America only.
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V6 Ecoboost Transit is intended to replace V10 E Series I think, so don't see it happening.
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I've done the wiring for patient transporters in new Transits and I've done wiring for Ambulances in Mercedes Sprinters.

The Transit is no way near as friendly to run wiring through it as the Sprinter is, the Sprinter even has earth bolts all around the inside to earth out your accessories to, its like its made to be an Ambulance or have lots of extras fitted.

Transit also has nasty sharp edges under the roof lining on the wall where you run wires, good for accidentally creating shorts.

Though the stereo is much better in the Transits than the Sprinters, has a lot more balls and better bass and the manuals are nice to drive.

I'm looking forward to the new Transit, maybe it could be good enough to knock the Sprinter off the top?
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Old 11-02-2013, 08:29 PM   #13
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Id still prefer the E series van with the V10.
Honestly why the hell did they think a V10 was needed in a commercial van.
Its awesome.
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Old 11-02-2013, 09:03 PM   #14
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Id still prefer the E series van with the V10.
Honestly why the hell did they think a V10 was needed in a commercial van.
Its awesome.
You can also get them with the powerstroke diesel. Maybe it has something to do with the Econoline being a hit with serial murderers and rapists, (similar to bonnie and clyde and the flathead V8).

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I've done the wiring for patient transporters in new Transits and I've done wiring for Ambulances in Mercedes Sprinters.

The Transit is no way near as friendly to run wiring through it as the Sprinter is, the Sprinter even has earth bolts all around the inside to earth out your accessories to, its like its made to be an Ambulance or have lots of extras fitted.

Transit also has nasty sharp edges under the roof lining on the wall where you run wires, good for accidentally creating shorts.

Though the stereo is much better in the Transits than the Sprinters, has a lot more balls and better bass and the manuals are nice to drive.

I'm looking forward to the new Transit, maybe it could be good enough to knock the Sprinter off the top?
If there's anything an Ambulance need's, it's a pumping stezza.


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Id still prefer the E series van with the V10.
Honestly why the hell did they think a V10 was needed in a commercial van.
Its awesome.
God bless 'merica. Its about all their good for, stuffing big engines in just about anything
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Old 12-02-2013, 04:45 AM   #16
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I've done the wiring for patient transporters in new Transits and I've done wiring for Ambulances in Mercedes Sprinters.

The Transit is no way near as friendly to run wiring through it as the Sprinter is, the Sprinter even has earth bolts all around the inside to earth out your accessories to, its like its made to be an Ambulance or have lots of extras fitted.

Transit also has nasty sharp edges under the roof lining on the wall where you run wires, good for accidentally creating shorts.

Though the stereo is much better in the Transits than the Sprinters, has a lot more balls and better bass and the manuals are nice to drive.

I'm looking forward to the new Transit, maybe it could be good enough to knock the Sprinter off the top?

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It looks good to be honest, a real all-round quality upgrade.
Well I think the new one is a clean sheet, so hopefully its friendlier But I still hope we get the Ecoboost, even if it looks unlikely. A huge van that can demolish a Commodore SS off the line is hilarious.
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Id still prefer the E series van with the V10.
Honestly why the hell did they think a V10 was needed in a commercial van.
Its awesome.
I spent a bit of time in the back of one last year as airport transit (1 hour shuttle to the hotel) with a huge pile of luggage. It was a bit of a "Reverse Tardis", massive on the outside, tiny on the inside. There was only 2 of us, but with 8 pieces of luggage weighing 140kgs, we took the entire 8 seat van up!

The vans we used were all late model, with a massive chrome grill (looked like a Super-Duty F-Series) and 5.4L Tritons. But there wasn't much go, just a lot of noise and revs....

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The great thing about the Transit is it comes in so many different models, long, short, high and low and a few in between...
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My complaints with the E-series are: 1. they are rattly, 2. no improvement in the last decade, 3. no foot room in the front row (you can't even turn one foot sideways at the front of the passenger footwell). The Transit should be a massive improvement. Ford should do a luxury package, which would be a segment first. I also think the 4.4L V8 diesel should be an option (the one that Ford makes for the Range Rover).
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God bless 'merica. Its about all their good for, stuffing big engines in just about anything
Haha, hey we need it when we're building them.
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The Sprinters are ridiculously small and narrow. In the US this is a typical ambulance. The front section of the vehicle is based on a medium duty truck chassis, such as a Freightliner, Ford F-550/F-650, and so on. The rear is a custom-built compartment which is almost the size of a small portable building, easily capable of carrying 2 patients side by side, unlike Aussie ambos which can only carry 1.

Also, as you can see, the ambulances can carry up to 5 people up front in the passenger compartment, compared with only 2 up front in an Aussie ambo.

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The Sprinters are ridiculously small and narrow. In the US this is a typical ambulance. The front section of the vehicle is based on a medium duty truck chassis, such as a Freightliner, Ford F-550/F-650, and so on. The rear is a custom-built compartment which is almost the size of a small portable building, easily capable of carrying 2 patients side by side, unlike Aussie ambos which can only carry 1.

Also, as you can see, the ambulances can carry up to 5 people up front in the passenger compartment, compared with only 2 up front in an Aussie ambo.
Interesting. I like the idea of having extra room for patients on board, but it would be not so good at weaving around traffic, aswell as slow and bulky.
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Interesting. I like the idea of having extra room for patients on board, but it would be not so good at weaving around traffic, aswell as slow and bulky.
The odd thing is that the Sprinter is available in a cab chassis variant which allows you to add a custom-made rear section. There's no reason why they couldn't make a larger ambulance based on the Sprinter that carries 2 patients.
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The Sprinters are ridiculously small and narrow. In the US this is a typical ambulance. The front section of the vehicle is based on a medium duty truck chassis, such as a Freightliner, Ford F-550/F-650, and so on. The rear is a custom-built compartment which is almost the size of a small portable building, easily capable of carrying 2 patients side by side, unlike Aussie ambos which can only carry 1.

Also, as you can see, the ambulances can carry up to 5 people up front in the passenger compartment, compared with only 2 up front in an Aussie ambo.

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That seems like total overkill maybe for disaster or something as it wouldn't be needed in the normal every day because it would take that vital couple more minutes to get to a patience that would make all the difference.
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That seems like total overkill maybe for disaster or something as it wouldn't be needed in the normal every day because it would take that vital couple more minutes to get to a patience that would make all the difference.
It seems like overkill but they are used as normal day to day ambulances. I was just in the US last month and saw one pull up to my hotel and a single elderly woman (fully concious) was being lifted up on board. Obviously not a real emergency as nobody seemed to be in a rush. Does seem like overkill to send such a huge vehicle to pick up one woman who isn't feeling well!
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The Sprinters are ridiculously small and narrow. In the US this is a typical ambulance. The front section of the vehicle is based on a medium duty truck chassis, such as a Freightliner, Ford F-550/F-650, and so on. The rear is a custom-built compartment which is almost the size of a small portable building, easily capable of carrying 2 patients side by side, unlike Aussie ambos which can only carry 1.

Also, as you can see, the ambulances can carry up to 5 people up front in the passenger compartment, compared with only 2 up front in an Aussie ambo.

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They used to run box body GMC Sierras and then the F250s when they sold here in Australia.

Unsure of why they moved to the Mercedes Sprinter, maybe fuel usage concern?

Also they're not as wide, so they are easier to drive, one of the guys was saying paramedics used to smash off the 240v inlet block all the time on the box bodies.

The interior in the Sprinter is much more modern looking than the old box bodies though.

I find that when we build them, the variant that Ambulance Victoria orders isn't tall enough, its a pain in the *** for anyone over 5'8 to stand up in for longer than 5 minutes because you have to spread out your legs and learn your neck on the side so you don't hit the roof.

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The odd thing is that the Sprinter is available in a cab chassis variant which allows you to add a custom-made rear section. There's no reason why they couldn't make a larger ambulance based on the Sprinter that carries 2 patients.
Our QLD Bariatric (fat trucks) ambulances have a cab chassis box section on the back, they are so much bigger.

In Victoria you've got Mica Paramedics in Territory's, they come out to the accident quickly, and treat the person at the scene until an ambulance can arrive, so you could have the same setup, except the ambulance based on a prime mover or something.
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Yeah but both our ambo's will survive the trip so we only need 2
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