|
Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum. You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us. Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated. |
|
The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk |
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
27-03-2005, 03:16 AM | #1 | ||
XB in parts...
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Sydney
Posts: 2,890
|
What sort of performance times do imported sports cars do ? I guess I'm probably focussing on the Jap stuff.
I've heard of FTO's and Skyline's being able to do reasonable times but there seems to be a lot of BS when imported cars are discussed. Is anyone able to list some times up for some of the more commonly seen cars eg supra's, skylines, gti-r's. I'm curious to see how these these stack up against some of our local performance cars.
__________________
Daily Driver 2019 Ford Escape...looking for XR6T's. |
||
27-03-2005, 03:46 AM | #2 | ||
BOSS 260
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 325
|
Here are sometimes I remember finding once. You can also go here, theres a whole list of em. http://www.albeedigital.com/supercou...0-60times.html
Nissan Skyline R32 GTS, RB20DE, 116kW @ 6400rpm, 184Nm @ 5200rpm. 0-100km/h: 7.63 sec Standing-400m: 15.76 sec Nissan Skyline R32 GTS25, RB25DE, 142kW @ 6400rpm, 231Nm @ 4800rpm 0-100km/h: 7.1 sec Standing-400m: 15.0 sec Nissan Skyline R32 GTSt, RB20DET, 160kW @ 6400rpm, 263Nm @ 3200rpm 0-100km/h: 6.7 sec Standing-400m: 14.8 sec Nissan Skyline R33 GTS25, RB25DE, 140kW @ 6200rpm, 230Nm @ 4800rpm 0-100km/h: 8.10 sec Standing-400m: 16.21 sec Nissan Skyline R33 GTS25t, RB25DET, 187kW @ 6400rpm, 295Nm @ 4800rpm 0-100km/h: 6.2 sec Standing-400m: 14.4 sec Nissan Skyline R34 25GT, RB25DE-Neo, 147kW @ 6000rpm, 255Nm @ 4000rpm 0-100km/h: 8.45 sec Standing-400m: 15.81 sec Nissan Skyline R34 25GT-t, RB25DET-Neo, 206kW @ 6200rpm, 343Nm @ 4000rpm 0-100km/h: 6.0 sec Standing-400m: 13.7 sec
__________________
"And I gave that man directions, even though I didn't know the way, because that's the kind of guy I am this week." Homer BA XR8 EB XR8 |
||
27-03-2005, 04:44 AM | #3 | ||
they call me Tibbo
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 6,163
|
I went to the test and tune on Good Friday and from what is running around @ Qld
the imports were flying in comparision to the local cars A few examples A Soarer was running mid 12's, the other was a pip over 13 A heap of Silvias were under 14.0 some into the 12's A few 120SX (i think thats what they are??) were doing 12's a few were doing mid to high 13's The slowest Skyline was doing low 14's, the fastest did 10 flat Alot of little Civic looking things were in the 14's, one even doing a low 13, a couple of N/A ones were doing 15's I guess it is easy to put on an I/C, whack up the boost a notch or two and really give the 1/4mile a good shake
__________________
|
||
27-03-2005, 05:55 AM | #4 | ||
XB in parts...
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Sydney
Posts: 2,890
|
yeah I've heard scary stories of GT Starlet Turbo's doing some really low times... stuff that puts other cars to shame.
But this is with cars that have been modded. I'm curious to see the off the floor times, pre modded. Like you said, you can easily bump the boost and get decent results....
__________________
Daily Driver 2019 Ford Escape...looking for XR6T's. |
||
27-03-2005, 06:30 AM | #5 | |||
they call me Tibbo
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 6,163
|
Quote:
Just to add, I doubt there are many 'off the showroom floor' imports left in their factory configuration, as the Fast Fours and Rotary enthusiats (not the wannabe tossers) have really lifted the bar in the performance stakes. The percentage of 'ricer' cars with kits, bling wheels all show no go was definately in the minority at Qld Raceway, i think there were maybe 2 or 3 out of 60 or 70 cars that went slower than they looked. The Hyndai and Laser brigade seem to stay well away from Willowbank atm. I suppose as we agree, the potential of such imports is there,
__________________
|
|||
27-03-2005, 06:35 AM | #6 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Is that your face, or did you neck throw up
Posts: 3,041
|
Nissan GTR 32, 205kw, standing 1/4 13.1.
Nissan GTR 33, 205kw, standing 1/4 12.9 These times are as they come of the show room floor... sorry I don,t know the torque figures... Matt |
||
27-03-2005, 09:56 AM | #7 | ||
Uterus M.I.A.
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Gold Coast
Posts: 1,459
|
MK4 (93 onwards) Twin turbo Supra RZ & GZ
3L Twin Turbo I6 280bhp MAX speed 158mph 0-100 5.1 seconds From personal impressions of driving this model the manual is the only one that really cracks off the show room floor Mk4 (93 onwards) SZ NON TURBO Supra 3L N/A I6 225bhp MAX Speed 143mph 0-100 6.5 seconds 300ZX Twin Turbo V6 VG30DETT 1989 - 99 224kw@6400rpm & 384nm@3600rpm 0-100kph = 6.5 seconds Max speed 249kph IMPORT HONDA S2000 F20C Straight 4 179kw@8300 rpm & 207nm@7500 rpm MAX Speed = 241kph 0 - 100kph 5.3 HONDA NSX Mid , transversely mounted 60º V 6 216kw@7100rpm & 304nm@5500rpm MAX Speed 270kph 0 - 100 = 5.0 seconds
__________________
Last edited by Sylox; 27-03-2005 at 10:35 AM. |
||
27-03-2005, 10:13 AM | #8 | |||
Uterus M.I.A.
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Gold Coast
Posts: 1,459
|
Quote:
__________________
|
|||
27-03-2005, 11:02 AM | #9 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Geelong
Posts: 1,094
|
Quote:
|
|||
27-03-2005, 12:23 PM | #10 | |||
Guest
Posts: n/a
|
Quote:
|
|||
27-03-2005, 12:27 PM | #11 | ||
Guest
Posts: n/a
|
we got a r33 gtst and stock its not that quick!
its soo easy to change somthing and make the thing go a lot quicker, simply block a vacume hose from the turbo and get full boost! its hard to compare, i am thinking of taking the skyline down to WSID to see what the stock skyline does for my self! knowing that it is stock as a rock. |
||
27-03-2005, 01:39 PM | #12 | ||
Zoom Zoom
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Melbourne, VIC
Posts: 4,352
|
Those figures might be quoted on Jap fuel, at 100RON if there's so much difference between quoted and actual...
__________________
2012 Mazda3 MPS
|
||
27-03-2005, 02:06 PM | #13 | ||
Uterus M.I.A.
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Gold Coast
Posts: 1,459
|
My cousin owned a stock GTS-T R33 and it would whip the ute which makes those time look pretty good
__________________
|
||
27-03-2005, 02:29 PM | #14 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Is that your face, or did you neck throw up
Posts: 3,041
|
With a few mods the 33GTST will whip any n/a V8's **** from here to kingdom come. I did a complete rebuild of a 33GTST 7 years ago the mods were a 3inch exhaust and dump pipe, GTR intercooler, BOV, turbo hi flowed, match ported manifolds and electronic boost controler... I never did a standing 1/4 but I use to hit the rev limiter alot in top gear, which in klms is 274kph..
|
||
27-03-2005, 03:46 PM | #15 | |||
Donating Member
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Sydney
Posts: 1,940
|
Quote:
|
|||
27-03-2005, 04:22 PM | #16 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Is that your face, or did you neck throw up
Posts: 3,041
|
Quote:
Don't hold me to the gosple on this, it's only what I have heard and I can not confirm if it is true or false. But the way those Godzilars go I would not be suprised if it was true. Matt |
|||
27-03-2005, 05:21 PM | #17 | ||
Uterus M.I.A.
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Gold Coast
Posts: 1,459
|
They range from about 210kw though to around 240kw r32- r34.
But if anyone asks they are 206kw Mmmk
__________________
|
||
27-03-2005, 08:28 PM | #18 | ||
Boss for Go, L98 for Show
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Victorialand
Posts: 780
|
Theres no doubt that the Japanese Import scene are partly the influence to high powered late model aussie sedans.
This where the XR6-T is a unique car, taking the tradional rugged, torquey and spacious sedan and combining it with Japanese style technology of turbocharging. Now that the 4.0L Falcon has met forced induction i have no doubt we'll see a Falcon taking it right up there with the Imports. One of the High performance import video's did a comparo between the R34 GT-T (206kw) sedan against the XR6-T. While the XR6-T is heavier it handled better out of the box against the R34 and had more punch.
__________________
Quote: Jeremy Clarkson "The fact of the matter is this, from just about any angle this is an impossibly pretty car" |
||
28-03-2005, 01:36 AM | #19 | ||||
XB in parts...
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Sydney
Posts: 2,890
|
Quote:
Quote:
__________________
Daily Driver 2019 Ford Escape...looking for XR6T's. |
||||
28-03-2005, 09:29 AM | #20 | ||
Dual O2 sensors
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Brisneyworld
Posts: 1,437
|
Compare this... take a R33 GTSt (Which you bought for 16 thou). Take a 3 thousand dollar XB (not coupe), repair any rust, fix paint and spend $10,000 on a kick-*** engine/driveline combo.
Spend the same amount of money, have one tough XB that beat the Skyline and sound like the world was coming down. I know what i'd pick
__________________
Black 1990 300zx Twin Turbo 5 Speed Manual : Blue 2004 Mini Cooper S 6 Speed Manual - Yes, thank you Amanda. I realise now that you updated my signature to include your car. : |
||
28-03-2005, 09:55 AM | #21 | |||
Viper FG XR6 Turbo
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 858
|
Quote:
|
|||
28-03-2005, 10:01 AM | #22 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 6,359
|
And not suck fuel like a worked clevo.
Thats why turbo's are good. I can drive mine around town and if I dont boost it, it is like a normal EB falcon and fuel economy remains half decent.
__________________
Turbo AU ute ~ Nice legs, shame about the face. 282rwkw at 15psi. |
||
28-03-2005, 10:11 AM | #23 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 6,359
|
I know a guy with a 180sx, stock except for exhuast system who ran a 14.1 at calder.
The place who did my turbo install told me that those gts-t's can take 270rwkw before needed any internal changes. THey are awesome cars! They come with 4 spot brakes as standard, awesome suspension. My mate has the best traction for launching on the street. They look good etc etc. The only bad thing is very copper is looking to pull them over and inspect them. No such problems with the turbo falcon
__________________
Turbo AU ute ~ Nice legs, shame about the face. 282rwkw at 15psi. |
||
28-03-2005, 10:55 AM | #24 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 975
|
Yeah my mate used to have a 97 R33 running stock boost and it just beat my 5spd XR6 but once boosted its : to me. Also they feel so much smoother and nicer to drive than any aussie car not too mention the handling with a set of tein coilovers its amazing
|
||
28-03-2005, 11:35 AM | #25 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,521
|
Quote:
__________________
Me fail English? That's unpossible.
|
|||
04-01-2006, 11:02 AM | #26 | |||
Regular Member
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 46
|
Quote:
Apart from the GTR Ive beaten all of those cars with my auto 300zx TT (stock). Like someone have stated, those times might have been using Jap fuel. The only cars that have totally blown me out of the water have been v8's (newer LS1 and 2's mostly). One red SS stood out in my list of deaths, totally stock looking with the wife (or GF) on the passenger side. 0-80km (speed limit), had me by 1-1.5 car length, the GTS-T beside me was 2 or so lengths behind me. A stock 300zxTT has 165-170rwkw with the auto being faster off the line. |
|||
04-01-2006, 04:48 PM | #27 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 606
|
Quote:
|
|||
04-01-2006, 09:18 PM | #28 | ||
Custom user title
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,892
|
I used to beat my mates GTSTR33 with my falcon... by a few cars to his speed limiter. THere pretty good for a factory car... We fitted big bore exhaust, wound the boost up to 14 pound... And well im not dumb enuf to race him now...
THey go hard for what they are |
||