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Old 08-05-2013, 01:33 PM   #31
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Old 08-05-2013, 08:45 PM   #32
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What cultural identity? As a nation we spent the first 150+ years of our history desperately clinging to our British heritage, the next 50 trying to emulate US pop culture and now we are divided and segregated by additional cultures and languages, without any cohesion whatsoever. We're a cultural ghetto.

Actually I would have agreed with that a while back. I used to think our cultural identity started and finished with beer, noise and ockerism.

But, recently I have begun to appreciate a more subtle Australian culture. It gets buried by the loud obnoxious version but its there.
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Old 08-05-2013, 08:52 PM   #33
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Amongst other things. Well actually its a crazy petition to join America and Australia but I'm assuming it would mean more cars.

http://wh.gov/t8vW



I signed it - I can dream can't I?

Imagine the positives - more political choices than just Julie and Tone.

Might get our guns back.

Probably be compensated for our years without guns and the NRA will have a bounty put on Lil Johny. Hopefully Dog will rough him up then read the bible to him for hours.

Cheaper fuel.

Hmm just realised creationism might be one huge negative. Dangit.

Where is the petition to stop all foreign cars coming to Australia, then we might sell some Falcons!
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Old 08-05-2013, 09:45 PM   #34
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For years we've been hearing about the elusive event that will unify Australia and America, and so far they've only been fads.

Examples were professional baseball leagues, NASCAR, even an NFL exhibition match. These happened during or before the 1990s and where did they lead us? Right now it appears that V8 Supercars is becoming an export, whether this is just another fad time will tell.

As similar as we are to America, we are also very different. I just don't see many of our citizens allowing it, there would be some very violent protests.
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Old 08-05-2013, 10:54 PM   #35
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Maybe if we take the positives from both places and combined them. Then get rid of all the negatives.

America is cool and has some great things, cheaper products and all that, but Australia is a much better place to live and work. We have it pretty easy here.
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Old 09-05-2013, 08:39 AM   #36
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If Australia became part of USA there would be quite a number of advantages:

1) 350,000,000 extra customers for all of our produce
2) A Dept of Justice whose focus is ensuring that government and public servants do not misuse their position and that all laws are "fair". (speed cameras etc.)
3) A constitution that actually bestows rights on ordinary people.
4) A government that is not afraid of business including mining, fuel and media.
5) All senior public servants become elected so it would no longer be a "boys club".
6) The dole would be replaced by "minimum wage" which is the same income except you actually have to work for it.
7) We would have a high quality road system.

and lots more.....

Of course there would be a lot of disadvantages.
1) We would be a much higher profile target for terrorism.
2) A lot of our traditional "free" things like medical etc. would require some form of medical insurance line Medibank Private etc.
3) We would inherit a lot of the social unrest in USA.

and a lot more.....

But it will never happen.

Australia is a socialist democracy and those who have power here would lose control.

USA has a collective mentality of "We are the best because we work, we earn, we solve our own problems and are responsible for our own decisions".

Australia has over the last 70 years or so has headed more and more towards "We are the best because someone else works, pays us, we blame everyone else for our problems and must be told what to do and wrapped in cotton wool in case we hurt ourselves".

And getting back to the original premise of the topic. On a number of occasions I have put forward the idea of allowing left hand drive vehicles on our roads and the overwhelming majority have cried "it is too dangerous, we are not good enough drivers, it should be banned".

And answering you question Damo, from a business point of view it would be great as there would be no impediments to paying extra money and giving benefits to employees who a good workers and cutting the wages or sacking on the spot those who are lazy bad workers.
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And getting back to the original premise of the topic. On a number of occasions I have put forward the idea of allowing left hand drive vehicles on our roads and the overwhelming majority have cried "it is too dangerous, we are not good enough drivers, it should be banned".
Dont have a problem with LHD use in an RHD country, it costs $ to convert from LHD to RHD as we appreciate, so I'd guess the US would send 'a few more' choices our way - in LHD if permitted; however - ADR's for 'lighting' and our required curtain, side, front airbags, and for ESP and traction control would have to be complied by US importers. Not quite mandatory in the US yet for the full MA (car) category.

NB is todays other news, Tuesday's federal budget will fund the F3 to M2 link here in NSW. Design detail, many kays of tunnel, is kinda hidden atm, but I expect a mere two traffic lanes and no continuous 'shoulder' - we'll see.
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Old 09-05-2013, 11:02 AM   #38
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Amongst other things. Well actually its a crazy petition to join America and Australia but I'm assuming it would mean more cars.

http://wh.gov/t8vW



I signed it - I can dream can't I?

Imagine the positives - more political choices than just Julie and Tone.

Might get our guns back.

Probably be compensated for our years without guns and the NRA will have a bounty put on Lil Johny. Hopefully Dog will rough him up then read the bible to him for hours.

Cheaper fuel.

Hmm just realised creationism might be one huge negative. Dangit.
Not a chance , doing so would destroy local industry even faster , and would allow importation of general US stlye cars meaning plain fugly
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Old 09-05-2013, 02:03 PM   #39
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Maybe if we take the positives from both places and combined them. Then get rid of all the negatives.

America is cool and has some great things, cheaper products and all that, but Australia is a much better place to live and work. We have it pretty easy here.
If you can find one thing in the world that has pros without any cons, please let me know. I have only found that everything has positives and negatives, rather than one or the other.

Eg: Capitalism: pros- promotes and rewards work ethic
cons: small safety net for those not doing well

Socialism: pros: Big safety net for everyone
cons: enables laziness, lack of economic growth

The utopian idea is that you could have both pros together and get rid of the negatives of both, but that's impossible.
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Old 09-05-2013, 07:25 PM   #40
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The negatives outweigh the positives too much...
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Old 25-05-2013, 09:43 PM   #41
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The campaign to force US President Barack Obama to look at merging the US and Australia to create a new super nation called Ameristralia, where inhabitants eat hotdogmeatpies and the coat of arms features a bald eagle with a koala's head, is dead.

A petition on the White House's official website calling for the US and Australia merger failed on Friday to receive the 100,000 signatures needed for it to be reviewed by Mr Obama's policy experts.

Supporters had one month to muster up the 100,000 signatures, but they fell well short with less than 7000 signing up.

The Ameristralia campaign was born on the social news and entertainment website Reddit.

Enthusiastic supporters created an Ameristralia flag featuring US stars and stripes blended with the Southern Cross, the koala-bald eagle coat-of-arms and proposed the national sport to be Austus, an AFL-gridiron hybrid.

The 'We the People' section on the whitehouse.gov website was launched in 2011 to give Americans their constitutional right to petition the US government on issues deemed important.

A petition by Star Wars fans calling for the US to build a Death Star generated enough signatures to make it to Mr Obama's desk.

With the Ameristralia petition dead and Mr Obama declining to build a Death Star citing the estimated $US850,000,000,000,000,000 cost, Americans have plenty of other open petitions on the White House website to sign.

They include the Send troops to liberate Hong Kong petition, which so far has 1933 signatures.

There's also Stop the Genocide of Whites petition (312 signatures), Make the metric system the standard in the US (49,913), Recount the election (72,730) and Release (accused Boston Marathon bomber) Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and drop all charges without prejudice based on a lack of evidence and false accusations (2,312).
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Old 25-05-2013, 09:59 PM   #42
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Glad it failed. What a dumb idea.

But in saying that if Australia was a US state the Falcon would still be made here post 2016 and sold all over the US. Because One Ford protects all US cars and all the other foreign made stuff can go to hell if it doesn't benefit the US.
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Old 25-05-2013, 10:02 PM   #43
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Reading that news article it's hard to believe anyone would take such a petition seriously.
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Old 26-05-2013, 01:05 PM   #44
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As long as they could bring out a cheaper Mustang to OZ, sure. (joking)

We already have american spelling, we have blokes walking around with their trousers almost falling off, kids wearing baseball caps, for some unknown reason some people celebrate halloween, certain sections of the community behave terribly and seem to have easy access to guns, the list goes on and on.
We are MUCH better off with a government that is in Canberra than 10,000+ klms away.

I LOVE our country and I DON'T want us to become the 51st state, leave that for Mexico.
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Where is the petition to stop all foreign cars coming to Australia, then we might sell some Falcons!
So with Ford killing off manufacturing here in Australia, I find myself torn to see people wanting to make imports easier!

Well, you have got what you have hoped for! Congrats!
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