Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated.

Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > General Topics > The Pub

The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-10-2013, 07:42 PM   #1
coupe060
Regular Member
 
coupe060's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 168
Default what size is this

can anyone tell me what this engine is please.

Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_0536.JPG_s.jpg (98.5 KB, 145 views)
coupe060 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 11-10-2013, 07:48 PM   #2
wodahs
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
wodahs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: perth
Posts: 4,355
Default Re: what size is this

a ford six , looks like a non cross flow 200 log motor
you goy any more details eg is it the original for the vehicle and what vehicle that would be may be also some engine numbers or vehicle id numbers
__________________
yes still (as money n time permit) doing the

rebuilding the zh fairlane with a clevo 400m 4v heads injected whipple blown with aode 4 speed trans to a 9" ....... we'll get there eventually

just remember don't be afraid to try something new.
Remember, amateurs built the Ark...Professionals built the Titanic!

I have taken up meditation... at least it's better than sitting around doing nothing !!
wodahs is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 11-10-2013, 07:58 PM   #3
Express
Bathed In A Yellow Glow
 
Express's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: NSW Central Coast
Posts: 2,530
Default Re: what size is this

At a guess it looks like its in an XW or XY.
Express is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 11-10-2013, 07:59 PM   #4
coupe060
Regular Member
 
coupe060's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 168
Default Re: what size is this

Hi wodahs, it was in an xw ute i'm starting to do up. It isn't the original engine and was mated to a single rail 4 speed. Just wondering if its any good to anyone or I will end up taking it to scrap.Yes express your right. Pat.
coupe060 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 11-10-2013, 08:03 PM   #5
TC200six
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Brisbane, Qld
Posts: 3,321
Default Re: what size is this

Hmm, silver rocker cover. Not sure if that's original but the XW also came in a 3.6.
TC200six is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 11-10-2013, 08:06 PM   #6
coupe060
Regular Member
 
coupe060's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 168
Default Re: what size is this

Its got a weird number on it PJ and 4 or 5 numbers on it
coupe060 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 11-10-2013, 08:33 PM   #7
Express
Bathed In A Yellow Glow
 
Express's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: NSW Central Coast
Posts: 2,530
Default Re: what size is this

If you can, before you junk it take a couple more photos from other angles and post up all the engine numbers and casting marks and maybe someone experienced in the classics will be able to help.



.
Express is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 11-10-2013, 08:38 PM   #8
coupe060
Regular Member
 
coupe060's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 168
Default Re: what size is this

i will try to put some more up tomorrow

Last edited by coupe060; 11-10-2013 at 08:47 PM.
coupe060 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 11-10-2013, 09:02 PM   #9
wodahs
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
wodahs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: perth
Posts: 4,355
Default Re: what size is this

with the grey rocker cover and green air cleaner I was reckoning 200cube (3.6ltr) but that's if its the original rocker cover for that motor , still recon this but could be a 250cube (4.1ltr) from memory the 250 got the red rocker cover and blue air cleaner
from memory air cleaner snout went to passenger shocky tower missing rubber hose of oil filler love the red oil bottle does it have the heater connected ? heater pipes should go thro the steel ring (bracket)on left shocky tower
__________________
yes still (as money n time permit) doing the

rebuilding the zh fairlane with a clevo 400m 4v heads injected whipple blown with aode 4 speed trans to a 9" ....... we'll get there eventually

just remember don't be afraid to try something new.
Remember, amateurs built the Ark...Professionals built the Titanic!

I have taken up meditation... at least it's better than sitting around doing nothing !!
wodahs is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 11-10-2013, 09:06 PM   #10
superyob
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 2,811
Default Re: what size is this

Quote:
Originally Posted by coupe060 View Post
Hi wodahs, it was in an xw ute i'm starting to do up. It isn't the original engine and was mated to a single rail 4 speed. Just wondering if its any good to anyone or I will end up taking it to scrap.Yes express your right. Pat.
Where are you located?
superyob is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 12-10-2013, 12:02 AM   #11
Spurious
Guest
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 1,934
Default Re: what size is this

An old trick is to photo copy your rego papers & license then post it to ford in Victoria. Being such an old engine they might not have any factory info on file but if they do then they should be able to give you the original factory info on that particular car.

Alternatively drive it to a local ford dealer & ask for the most senior guy in the workshop. Alternatively take lots of pics & show the mechanics.
Spurious is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 12-10-2013, 02:49 PM   #12
coupe060
Regular Member
 
coupe060's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 168
Default Re: what size is this

Hi Fella's, the air cleaner is actually blue under the green, it has the steel loop on the left side shock tower, the red container was for fuel to run the engine.I'm in moss vale nsw. I don't have any rego papers as it hasn't been rego'd for quite a while.

[/IMG]

[IMG][/IMG]

[IMG][/IMG]

[IMG][/IMG]
coupe060 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 12-10-2013, 03:21 PM   #13
redxm
64 Deluxe 4 door
Donating Member3
 
redxm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Raxacoricofallapatorius
Posts: 10,389
Default Re: what size is this

ARD1 = 1971 casting. either 200 or 250. pull plug and measure stroke.
If its 3.126" (79.4 mm), it's a 200
If its 3.910" (99.314 mm), it's a 250


Quote:
with the grey rocker cover and green air cleaner I was reckoning 200cube (3.6ltr)
200 - 3.3
221 - 3.6
250 - 4.1
__________________
XM Deluxe
FG XR50
BA Pursuit Ute
redxm is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 12-10-2013, 03:35 PM   #14
wodahs
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
wodahs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: perth
Posts: 4,355
Default Re: what size is this

Quote:
Originally Posted by wodahs View Post
with the grey rocker cover and green air cleaner I was reckoning 200cube (3.6ltr)
Quote:
Originally Posted by redxm View Post
200 - 3.3
221 - 3.6
250 - 4.1
forgot bout the 221 and mixed up the two but am still thinking 200
smallest I ever had to work with was the 250 rest were 302's n 51,s
__________________
yes still (as money n time permit) doing the

rebuilding the zh fairlane with a clevo 400m 4v heads injected whipple blown with aode 4 speed trans to a 9" ....... we'll get there eventually

just remember don't be afraid to try something new.
Remember, amateurs built the Ark...Professionals built the Titanic!

I have taken up meditation... at least it's better than sitting around doing nothing !!
wodahs is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 12-10-2013, 04:02 PM   #15
redxm
64 Deluxe 4 door
Donating Member3
 
redxm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Raxacoricofallapatorius
Posts: 10,389
Default Re: what size is this

I agree on the 200 theory as well. Not many optioned up to the 250 early on.
__________________
XM Deluxe
FG XR50
BA Pursuit Ute
redxm is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 12-10-2013, 11:01 PM   #16
dave351cid
playing in my big shed
 
dave351cid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: miriam vale , qld
Posts: 3,302
Default Re: what size is this

Quote:
Originally Posted by redxm View Post
ARD1 = 1971 casting. either 200 or 250. pull plug and measure stroke.
If its 3.126" (79.4 mm), it's a 200
If its 3.910" (99.314 mm), it's a 250
i am not sure about the numbers but sounds logical. if it is a 1971 build then it would have to be either 200 or 250cid.
i think that the 200s had blue rocker cover and the 250 had orange cover.

the silver rocker cover would be off a 221cid which would have been the original engine in an XW (pretty sure the XW 188cid was blue) . from memory the breather cap is from 188 - 221 type engines as well.
__________________
`75 XB FAIRMONT sedan . mushroom beige, injected 351, toploader, 9inch
`10 FG XR50 Turbo ute. Nitro blue, 6 sp Auto, Leather trim.
`04 BA RTV tray back, Red, V8 auto,
`04 BA XR6 Turbo sedan. Blueprint. auto, Leather trim.
`03 BA XLS ute . Acid Rush, factory lpg, auto,
`48 TEA20 Grey Ferguson,
`62 Willys 6-230 , 4x4 light truck
`04 Yamaha TTR 250
dave351cid is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 13-10-2013, 01:40 AM   #17
Crazy Dazz
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Perth, Northern Suburbs
Posts: 5,001
Default Re: what size is this

Yeah, the casting code seems right, although I'm never sure whether that means it was cast in 1971, or designed in 1971? The “A” indicates it’s the first version…
Can you make out the engine number? It would be interesting to know what model it came from.

So as a 71 engine, it’s a 200 or a 250 (as others have said.)

Since it has been fitted to an XW, it’s possible they kept some original bits (or re-sprayed them) to cosmetically match the original engine.
I would hazard a guess that this would be a 250 (1V) as otherwise I can’t see much point in the “upgrade.”

Value wise, the most obvious point is that it is a log-head (1V) so unless somebody wants to do a really authentic rebuild, they’d want to ditch the head for at least a 2V.
Crazy Dazz is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 13-10-2013, 09:37 AM   #18
coupe060
Regular Member
 
coupe060's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 168
Default Re: what size is this

I took a plug out and it looks like it measures up as a 250. Thanks to everyone for their help in working it out. Pat.
coupe060 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 13-10-2013, 12:29 PM   #19
Olbucko
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Olbucko's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Central Tablelands. NSW
Posts: 894
Default Re: what size is this

It can only be a 200 or 250 from XY to XC as it has the later block casting with the larger water pump fitted from XYs on.
__________________
Don't try and teach a pig to sing, it just wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Olbucko is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 13-10-2013, 07:19 PM   #20
seven7
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 112
Default Re: what size is this

now u just need a nice 250 2 v to put in their and have some fun
seven7 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 13-10-2013, 07:29 PM   #21
coupe060
Regular Member
 
coupe060's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 168
Default Re: what size is this

I'm not keeping it I have other plans for the ute.
coupe060 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Reply


Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 01:23 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL