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Old 04-11-2013, 02:46 PM   #1
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Default XR/TE50 Instrument cluster into 5.0L

I have an instrument cluster from a T3 TE50 for sale in the parts for sale section on here. Someone is asking will it fit into a std 5.0L Plug & Play OR would mods be required ?
Anyone know the answer to this ?

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Old 04-11-2013, 02:49 PM   #2
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It's plug and play. The only real difference is if they have a high series cluster that shows each individual door open the TS cluster will only show the pic of all doors open
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Old 04-11-2013, 02:56 PM   #3
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Default Re: XR/TE50 Instrument cluster into 5.0L

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Old 04-11-2013, 05:25 PM   #4
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Default Re: XR/TE50 Instrument cluster into 5.0L

I Believe if it is going into a Low Series that some pins will need to be reallocated to work with the cluster.
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Old 05-11-2013, 12:22 AM   #5
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Default Re: XR/TE50 Instrument cluster into 5.0L

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It's plug and play. The only real difference is if they have a high series cluster that shows each individual door open the TS cluster will only show the pic of all doors open
it is by no means plus and play but can be done, you need to relocate 4 wires to a plug that isn't there so you will need to acquire the plug to make it work ( or use an alternative that fits the pins, computer motherboard header plugs will fit. series one is not compatible with later series due to the wiring of the speed alert through the steering wheel controls, try mixing series one and later clusters and you will have major dramas ( been there done that)
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Old 05-11-2013, 12:25 AM   #6
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Wiring changes required when fitting a Mid/High Series Cluster to a Forte/Futura Model Falcon.
Although the Mid and High Series Clusters will simply plug in, and A L M O S T function, there a re a few changes you will need to make, in order to get the Cluster to function correctly.
These changes are needed in order for the following to function,
Dial Illumination with Park Lamps On
The ABS Warning Lamp to Illuminate correctly
The Right Hand Side Indicator Lamp to function Correctly

The following wires need to be moved around, in order for the Mid/High Cluster to function correctly,
1. The Park Lamp Dial (+ Positive) Illumination needs to be moved from Pin 13 to Pin 2.
2. The Dial Negative Dimmer Illumination needs to be moved from Pin 21 to Pin 3.
3. The ABS Warning Lamp Wire needs to be moved from Pin 8 to Pin 23
4. The R.H. Side Indicator wire needs to be moved from Pin 19 to Pin 26

Please Note : In addition to these changes, you will need to also change the Oil Warning Switch, to an Oil Pressure sender unit, and also swap the Odo Reading. (See Below for further details on how to do this)
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Old 05-11-2013, 12:27 AM   #7
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I had my TS 50 cluster plugged in my fairmont and did not have to make any modifications and have all lights illuminated and working properly. Still running in the car without problems
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Old 05-11-2013, 12:29 AM   #8
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TS50 is based on a Fairmont, So it would of just worked Ray

TS50 = High Series
Fairmont = High Series
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Which is what I said at the start ... Re TS50 and high series ...
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Old 05-11-2013, 12:33 AM   #10
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Yep I know.

I am just confirming what you said.

But OP never specified what type of car it was going on so i thought i'd just make it clear,
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