Does anyone else feel insulted by the new NSW mobile speed camera ad?

Bushbasher · 20-10-2013, 08:51 PM

In the last couple of days a new mobile speed camera ad has appeared on TV, put out by NSW Govco. It shows and lists the various people affected by some tragic car accident from the EMT, the policeman, the coroner, the grieving widow etc. and right at the end as the camera pans past a tree a Terry camera car comes into view with the tag line something like - " This is the mobile camera car that helped prevent the tragic accident" (I'm paraphrasing). I find this ad totally insulting to my intelligence. As far as I'm concerned no camera car has ever prevented an accident beyond taking money out of someone's pocket.

Auslandau · 20-10-2013, 09:06 PM

Sounds like every 1 of the 50 adds constantly repeated on Vic TV.

mik · 21-10-2013, 11:26 AM

In fact the truth is probably the reverse, the mere fact there is no visual detterent will probably add to the road toll, agreed a ******** add and trying to justify a hidden money maker.

flooded one · 21-10-2013, 11:31 AM

if it makes you feel better heres one crash a speed camera didn't prevent

http://www.news.com.au/national-news...-1226481481311

**supershifty** · 21-10-2013, 12:56 PM

For us "out of premier staters" anyone got a link to the ad in question?

Us QLD folk are getting flooded with an $800,000 campaign about what they're doing with the bikies. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=29dfLal7vwk

Cheers!

steve.zissou · 21-10-2013, 03:12 PM

Yep - but with the amount of idiots that get their "facts" from a commercial TV advertisement will probably ensure its success.

how about they show the other 93% of accident victims which result from causes other than speeding -

2011G6E · 21-10-2013, 04:50 PM

...because getting a fine in the mail two weeks later will retroactively slow down a speeding motorist two weeks in the past...

FGII-XR6 · 21-10-2013, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 2011G6E

...because getting a fine in the mail two weeks later will retroactively slow down a speeding motorist two weeks in the past...

In NSW you know you've been done, they put a sign telling you that you have had your speed checked just after the camera so if you've been hot footing it you just wait for the bad news to arrive.

haven't seen the ad yet so can't comment positive or negative

Bushbasher · 21-10-2013, 07:45 PM

It's a NSW ad but it's turned up on Southern Cross and 7 mate/2. I don't know how to go about getting it up online and I can't find it on Youtube but i'll keep looking. It's part of the "Don't Rush" campagn.

burnz · 21-10-2013, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by wildrider

if it makes you feel better heres one crash a speed camera didn't prevent

http://www.news.com.au/national-news...-1226481481311

why is there a crime stopper number for info at the bottom?

so its a crime to crash into a marked camera car now

xtremerus · 21-10-2013, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by au3xr6

In NSW you know you've been done, they put a sign telling you that you have had your speed checked just after the camera so if you've been hot footing it you just wait for the bad news to arrive.

haven't seen the ad yet so can't comment positive or negative

Never seen one of them. Must be a new city thing is it?

FGII-XR6 · 21-10-2013, 08:07 PM

no it is always after a camera car in NSW it is a legal requirement . it is not a huge sign just a portable sign they put up. I've never seen a camera car here in the Hunter without one and if you do get booked by a car without the sign up you can appeal it and you will get off ( providing you can prove it)

**Dave R** · 21-10-2013, 08:28 PM

From the NSW government, in the 2013 annual NSW speed camera performance review.

http://roadsafety.transport.nsw.gov....appendices.pdf

The intended purpose of mobile speed cameras is to produce a sustained change in driver behaviour by creating a perception that speeding can be enforced anywhere at any time, thereby reducing speeding not only at identified enforcement locations but also across the road network, thus creating a general deterrence effect (Cameron & Delaney, 2006). This is because drivers are less able to predict where the enforcement will occur. The less predictable the enforcement, the more speed limit compliance can be achieved.

When the cameras were first introduced, they defended the positioning of the signs (being after the car and not before it) by stating that, essentially, you will only learn your lesson after you've realised you've been done for speeding. So you need to be speeding for the cameras to have their intended effect. You could argue that it's a shame the cameras aren't actually designed to slow people down (I haven't seen the ad, but from what I've read here it seems like this is what it's trying to imply, which is rubbish) or you could see it as a larger exercise in targeting people for speeding in general. As far as I know, they aren't specifically putting the cameras in black spots, rather entire stretches of road- so the cameras aren't much different from a highway patrol car hiding behind the bushes if that is the case.

FGII-XR6 · 21-10-2013, 08:38 PM

the locations are all published and not where ever they feel like it here is the list there are the fixed cameras first then the mobile http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/roadsafety..._locations.pdf

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adrenaline

From the NSW government, in the 2013 annual NSW speed camera performance review.

http://roadsafety.transport.nsw.gov....appendices.pdf

The intended purpose of mobile speed cameras is to produce a sustained change in driver behaviour by creating a perception that speeding can be enforced anywhere at any time, thereby reducing speeding not only at identified enforcement locations but also across the road network, thus creating a general deterrence effect (Cameron & Delaney, 2006). This is because drivers are less able to predict where the enforcement will occur. The less predictable the enforcement, the more speed limit compliance can be achieved.

When the cameras were first introduced, they defended the positioning of the signs (being after the car and not before it) by stating that, essentially, you will only learn your lesson after you've realised you've been done for speeding. So you need to be speeding for the cameras to have their intended effect. You could argue that it's a shame the cameras aren't actually designed to slow people down (I haven't seen the ad, but from what I've read here it seems like this is what it's trying to imply, which is rubbish) or you could see it as a larger exercise in targeting people for speeding in general. As far as I know, they aren't specifically putting the cameras in black spots, rather entire stretches of road- so the cameras aren't much different from a highway patrol car hiding behind the bushes if that is the case.

GCRXR6 · 21-10-2013, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by wildrider

if it makes you feel better heres one crash a speed camera didn't prevent

http://www.news.com.au/national-news...-1226481481311

Mmmmm officer RUSHED to hospital ... later in the article .... Officer taken to hospital with minor injuries. Jurnos

Sorry ... We don't rush patients to hospital with minor injuries.

**Dave R** · 21-10-2013, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by au3xr6

the locations are all published and not where ever they feel like it here is the list there are the fixed cameras first then the mobile http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/roadsafety..._locations.pdf

That was what I was referring to- the locations listed for the mobile cameras are entire stretches of road or highway in a given suburb, as opposed to specific black spot locations which I believe are supposed to be the reason that fixed cameras are erected.

Spurious · 21-10-2013, 11:11 PM

Again with the speed camera thread.

flooded one · 22-10-2013, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by burnz

why is there a crime stopper number for info at the bottom?

so its a crime to crash into a marked camera car now

I couldn't work that one out either.

so long as you don't drive off afterwards you'll be fine

steve.zissou · 22-10-2013, 06:27 PM

picture of a driver geting caught for 3 km over in vic yesterday

steve.zissou · 22-10-2013, 06:30 PM

or a better one:

Spurious · 23-10-2013, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by steve.zissou

or a better one:

image

"Can I see your license, proof of insurance & credit rating please sir".

cobramania · 07-11-2013, 09:15 AM

Thought I'd dig this thread back up rather than start a new one.

It's just in the news this morning, that the NSW Government is looking at removing a fixed speed camera in a Newcastle suburb, after accidents have increased by 18% since the camera was installed.

Obviously it hasn't stopped or reduced accidents, as per the ad in the OP would have you believe, & obviously speed isn't a factor in the majority (or any) accidents in this area.

I don't know the details of the revenue raised from this camera, but even if it's high, it hasn't reduced speeding & accidents.

Probably most of them don't reduce anything, but all increase revenue.

Funnily enough the local member of parliament (Labor opposition), want's to keep it.