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12-06-2013, 08:28 PM | #181 | |||
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The other thing to note, is that the Golf that Melissa unfortunately lost her life in, is a Mk5, and these were the very first Golfs to use the DSG transmission in question. Anyway, this has been done to death, and as someone else said, only two people actually know what happened that day, and one isn't alive to tell her side of the story. Meanwhile, the Australian media is trying very hard to discredit an exceptional company and vehicle brand that is following protocol to the T as enforced by head office. Either way, this continuing to run on and on and on has actually drummed up more business for the dealers than you can believe. Free advertisement as it will, regardless of good or bad has brought people to the dealers, and the guys I use to work with are enjoying a very favorable month. It will be interesting to see if that is represented australia wide, or just with the network i am still in touch with. If the trend is to be believed though, this talking is further helping Sales of Volkswagen in Australia.
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12-06-2013, 08:37 PM | #182 | |||
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my other post was in relation to... just that some post put the blame on the truck driver and not at golf/ the driver/ or vic roads..
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13-06-2013, 07:59 AM | #183 | |||
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13-06-2013, 08:08 AM | #184 | |||
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13-06-2013, 08:43 AM | #185 | ||
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13-06-2013, 09:31 AM | #186 | |||
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How quickly do cars decelerate when fools flip off cruise control as they approach a speed camera. Now multiply that by the effect you have described above when loosing all power.
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13-06-2013, 05:18 PM | #187 | |||
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13-06-2013, 06:24 PM | #188 | |||
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Yes the VW may have slowed without brake lights but no way it slowed as quickly as with brakes, the following drivers should be prepared that any car may slow for unseen reasons, like animals, children, obstructions, or driver changing their mind. I don't see any excuse for the rear vehicle hitting one in front when following (I acknowledge last minute lane changes or similar as being the exception) JP |
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13-06-2013, 10:03 PM | #189 | |||
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Having worked with the company, I have an understanding of what VGA have to go through before they can issue things like recalls in Australia.
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13-06-2013, 10:35 PM | #190 | ||
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Seems to me that the front wheels were falling off territories in the early days ,no recall on them was there ,and didnt they have a rear brake hose problem too ,no recall ,we need to be careful here as ford dont have a real good name on recalls
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13-06-2013, 10:59 PM | #191 | |||
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Yeah, lived through that and survived - including taking an automotive engineer friend for a memorable wobbly ride down the F3 in Sydney (wondering if we'd be killed any minute) as we tried to get to the bottom of the issue in the face of a deafening wall of silence from Ford. Ford came to the party eventually but it took an uncomfortably long time. |
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14-06-2013, 09:03 AM | #192 | ||
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Maybe, but Melissa Ryan died 2 years ago.
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14-06-2013, 10:50 AM | #193 | |||
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Every Company has area's that can be improved, but the way VW generally go about things is very good. Yes she did, and yes, it was very unfortunate, but these troubles have only really been brought to attention in the last month or two. One incident isn't enough to start a mass recall, and as far as VW would of been concerned, it would of looked like a one off incident. Most of the people now voicing a similar issue with their cars, probably haven't even reported the issue to their local dealer yet, cause they didn't even know that there was an issue until it was brought into the media. For Instance: A friend of mine Ellie, has a 2010 VW Polo Comfortline, 90tsi, and she has shuttering from the clutches in her DSG, which she wasn't even aware of until i told her to take it to the dealer to get it rectified under warranty. So how can a company do anything about something they are unaware of? Australia being such a small market overall, with little info being fed back to VW, I believe they can be forgiven for thinking that the models sent to Australia weren't affected.
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Known between enthusiasts yes, reported on Forums, yes, not necessarily reported to VW.
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No. I am not a VW enthusiast, nor on their forums either. A colleague of mine had DSG problems, his VW dealer certainly knew about it and not just from the problems with his car, others I have read about more than once in the Fridays Carsguide etc.
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14-06-2013, 01:33 PM | #199 | ||
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VW have known about these problems for years. It appears they have been trying to save money and avoid a recall down-under. Bunch of Rat Bags in my opinion.
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So if Volkswagen didn't know, who the hell represented them when they were taken to VCAT by Ross Gulliver 2 1/2 years ago?
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14-06-2013, 07:06 PM | #201 | |||
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... But none of that knowledge would help Ray, as his car ground to a halt on a Point Cook roundabout with his wife and three-month-old son Joss as passengers. The Hilux smashed up the rear of his beloved Golf. ''It was a pretty nasty smash,'' says Ray. The Ray family car was tested twice after its sudden loss of power and diagnostic tests at Essendon Volkswagen showed nothing was wrong. Then suddenly, last week, the dealer rang Ray and said they knew what the problem was - it was the mechatronics unit. ... Because it rarely showed up in diagnostic tests and was intermittent, there was often no proof of a fault. Melbourne man Graham Whiteman, whose petrol Eos (DSG) lost power dozens of times - and once in the Burnley Tunnel - was told by Essendon Volkswagen his situation was ''unique''. But at least eight other motorists with the same problem told Fairfax Media they took their cars to Essendon Volkswagen. ... Some dealers blamed their customers' driving or, in the case of diesel vehicles, the quality of fuel. Volkswagen was also careful with its language - the diesel injector issue was not a recall but a ''campaign''. According to a 2011 memo obtained by Fairfax Media, Volkswagen Australia told dealers to ''please reinforce the correct description of this action'' - a DSG software modification - ''as a vehicle update, NOT a recall''. http://theage.drive.com.au/motor-news/no-recall-failure-to-act-20130607-2nvis.html
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18-06-2013, 10:20 PM | #202 | |||
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Just came across the coroners report (november 2013)for this Melbourne incident as reported:
http://www.caradvice.com.au/260114/v...woman-coroner/ or http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-11-1...issues/5093666 A Victorian coroner has ruled there were no systematic safety faults with the Volkswagen Golf being driven by a woman who died in a crash in Melbourne in 2011. Coroner Heather Spooner said there was no evidence that the 2008 Volkswagen Golf of 32-year-old Melissa Ryan suddenly lost power, suggesting it was more likely that she was distracted by a hands-free telephone conversation she was having at the time of the crash. Ryan died in January 2011 when her Volkswagen was hit from behind by a truck and crashed into a barrier on the Monash Freeway. Ryan’s family believed a defect with the car that caused it to suddenly lose power was responsible for her death, and called on the coroner to investigate the issue after approximately 300 other Volkswagen owners made similar claims of losing power in their cars. Reports from the Federal Government’s department of infrastructure and industry and Volkswagen Group Australia found no evidence of faults with the type of vehicle Ryan was driving, leading the coroner to her conclusion. Spooner recommended VicRoads consider a complete ban on using mobile phones when driving and suggested the development of in-vehicle technologies that prevented drivers from using phones while behind the wheel should be a subject of further research. Ryan’s family expressed disappointment with findings, saying they believed too much emphasis was placed on her telephone conversation and the report of the police major collision unit, which did not attend the crash scene, and hoped for a more comprehensive review of the complaints from other Volkswagen drivers. Volkswagen Group Australia today acknowledged the coroner’s findings that found the vehicle did not contribute to the cause of the accident. “Our sincere thoughts and sympathies remain with the Ryan family in what are tragic and very distressing circumstances,” Volkswagen said in a statement. Volkswagen reiterated that there was no correlation between Ryan’s car, which was equipped with a manual transmission, and the recalls affecting Volkswagen vehicles with dual-clutch DSG automatic transmissions JP |
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Well one may think that, but that's not how it works. While competing in Sprints at QR in my BF F6 some years back, the 6 speed ZF cried enough and went into limp mode just as I was approaching the final corner before pit straight. I had just overtaken a Porsche and was still well before the braking markers when it went into limp and decelerated quickly. I check the rear-view and saw a Porsche rapidly approaching my backside ... fortunately the driver was awake and had to swerve violently to avoid a collision. |
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