Victims of crime?

[cheap]

I'm having a hard time accepting this, clearly sends the wrong message, once again there is some screwed up "committee of experts" coming up with outrageous rulings, completely out of touch and out of control. What about the real victims, those who have had their lives and families harmed but Carl and his mates?

http://www.smh.com.au/victoria/payou...11-114lu0.html

Roberta Williams is eligible for compensation as a victim of crime, following the murder of Carl Williams in 2010.
The family of slain drug kingpin Carl Williams is eligible to receive a compensation payment of up to $742,000 from the state government after medical experts acknowledged they are legitimate victims of crime.
The Sunday Age can reveal that an independent panel of psychiatrists and psychologists have found that Carl's ex-wife Roberta Williams and their 13-year-old daughter Dhakota are suffering severe mental "impairment" resulting from the brutal bashing death of Carl Williams in Barwon Prison.
The decision is expected to infuriate victims of crime advocates, police and the state government, who have accused Ms Williams of directly benefiting from the proceeds of Carl's drug empire.
But the findings of the independent medical panel is a big victory for the Williams family in their long-running legal battle to prove that Victoria Police and Corrections Victoria failed in their duty to protect the multiple murderer-turned-informant while in custody.
Carl Williams was beaten to death by fellow inmate Matthew Johnson inside a maximum security unit in the state's most secure prison in April 2010. It took guards 27 minutes to realise Williams had been attacked despite blanket coverage of the unit by CCTV cameras and Williams' status as a key informant in a police corruption case linked to the 2004 execution-style murders of witness Terence Hodson and his wife, Christine.
In 2012, the Victorian Ombudsman handed down a damning report on the circumstances of the murder, which found prison authorities had failed in their duty of care to Carl and detailed systemic problems inside Barwon Prison that may have contributed to his death.
Soon after the Williams family launched a lawsuit against the state government alleging negligence and seeking damages for economic loss and psychological trauma, including suffering from a condition known as "abnormal grief reaction".
In its defence, the state government has argued that the Williams family experienced no "significant injury" as a result of his death.
But the family's case received a boost earlier this year when Roberta, Dhakota and Carl's father George obtained medical certificates demonstrating they were suffering from a psychological impairment level above the legal minimum threshold of 10 per cent.
The state government responded by demanding their conditions be assessed by an independent medical panel and subpoenaing the Williams' medical records. Those documents included supportive assessments from experts at the prestigious Melbourne Clinic, a forensic psychologist and a child psychologist from Dhakota's school.
The Sunday Age believes Roberta and Dhakota have since been diagnosed with a significant psychological injury by the medical panel. Their level of "impairment" is believed to be at least 50 per cent.
The decision of the medical panel makes Roberta and Dhakota eligible for a compensation payment of up to $371,000 each, according to the Wrongs Act.
The status of George Williams' medical panel assessment is not known.
Ms Williams declined to comment because the matter was before the courts. Mr Williams could not be reached for comment. Their solicitor, Spicer Lawyers, also declined to comment.
In a victim-impact statement submitted after Matthew Johnson's murder conviction in 2011, Dhakota told the judge that her father's death – when she was nine years old – was the worst thing to happen to her and caused severe bouts grief and anger. "Sometimes it feels like a big chunk of my heart has been taken away," she wrote.
Roberta Williams is believed to be traumatised in part by the fact that they learned about Carl's death through the media and that the family had been publicly demonised.
Nowicki Carbone managing partner Tony Carbone said Roberta and Dhakota Williams could expect significant compensation after the Victorian Ombudsman found in 2012 that Corrections Victoria had breached a duty of care to Carl Williams.
"Not withstanding that Williams was a notorious underworld figure, he was still entitled to the protection of the law. Because of an apparent failure, his family has suffered as a consequence," Mr Carbone said.
He said the maximum damages available to each litigant under the Wrongs Act was $370,000, with the ultimate settlement based on the extent of pain and suffering. He said it was unlikely they would receive any payment for loss of dependency, because Carl was in prison and had probably not lodged a legitimate tax return during his criminal reign.
Mr Carbone said they could also seek damages for breach of contract, if they could prove that Victoria Police had broken a deal with Carl Williams to provide evidence against former detective Paul Dale, who was charged and later acquitted of the murder of Terence and Christine Hodson.
A payout could embarrass the Napthine government, which has spruiked its law and order credentials in the lead-up to the November election.
"The state of Victoria is continuing to vigorously defend against the claim," a Napthine government spokesperson said.
Attorney-General Robert Clark has previously threatened to apply for a court injunction barring Ms Williams from potentially profiting from her notoriety as an underworld figure, which have included mooted plans to host "underworld tours", opening a cafe and candle shop, and making a documentary about her life.
The Sunday Age revealed last week that Ms Williams, a convicted drug trafficker, was being sought by a production company interested in making an Australian version of hit US reality television series Mob Wives.

[BHDOGS]

700 grand for that twat to be dead sounds like a good deal how much extra tax money to finish of the rest of his family.

[jaydee]

She should have to compensate the families that he had a hand in destroying, fairs fair. She was in it up to her skanky rs and knew exactly what was going on and was happy to live high on the hog with his ill gotten gains (selling drug).

[NTF6]

Isn't the Victorian government currently paying the daughters school fees too?

[eaglem]

And who said Crime doesn't pay! It's obviously paying for this bunch of lowlifes!

[mr smith]

How about a civil class action from families of drug dependants against his (their) estate?

[superyob]

'The Sunday Age can reveal that an independent panel of psychiatrists and psychologists have found that...'

This should read, The Sunday Age can reveal that a panel of psychiatrists and psychologists, with vested interests in their own existence, have found that...'

[xxx000]

Look on the positive side
Williams is dead and nothing's bringing him back

[WoodyAU]

So how come when my car got stolen and dumped, I couldn't get recompense for the busted ignition and wrecked exhaust? It was not worth an insurance claim. I put in paperwork claiming about $600, only got $150 from the thief.

[gozzaxr6t]

In australia the punishment for petty crimes is extreme compared to serious crimes where you seem to get a slap on the wrist and in this instance even compensation to your family members. Its like when I watch rbt. Get cought low range drink driving and your penalty is the same as someone being cought of their heads on amphetamines. Though in other countries get cought with drugs and your getting death. I cant figure out our justice system.

[mcflux]

Originally Posted by WoodyAU

So how come when my car got stolen and dumped, I couldn't get recompense for the busted ignition and wrecked exhaust? It was not worth an insurance claim. I put in paperwork claiming about $600, only got $150 from the thief.

Going by your username you drove an AU, which should automatically count towards 10% mental impairment! $370k for you good Sir!

[mcflux]

Originally Posted by NTF6

Isn't the Victorian government currently paying the daughters school fees too?

Nope you're thinking of the federal govt & a $60k scholarship.

[Bossxr8]

No, in exchange for info from Williams they paid his daughters private school fees, fixed up his dad's tax debt and various other things.