Qantas world's safest airline

[Romulus]

Well done Qantas!

http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel...-1227176759282

No surprises to see SQ and CX there as well. A noticeable absence of LCC's of course, but what do you expect when one pays little for a ticket to fly Deathstar on a Scarebus!

[Spurious]

While QANTAS has an unrivaled reputation in modern times, the airline was not without it's fair share of incidents/fatalities in its early infancy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...atal_accidents

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by F6 Concorde

Well done Qantas!

http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel...-1227176759282

No surprises to see SQ and CX there as well. A noticeable absence of LCC's of course, but what do you expect when one pays little for a ticket to fly Deathstar on a Scarebus!

Now that you've done your name dropping to show the rest of us that you really are into Aircraft, perhaps you'd like to share your knowledge re: SQ CX LCC Deathstar and Scarebus.

[GT0132]

Originally Posted by F6 Concorde

Well done Qantas!

http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel...-1227176759282

No surprises to see SQ and CX there as well.!

Good to see Air NZ there as well.

[Yellow_Festiva]

I don't get it. I was only watching a report a few days ago that stated the safest carrier in the world was in fact Cathay Pacific, followed by Quatar and then Singapore Air. They only mentioned the top 3.

I'll try and look it up, unless there is more than 1 'Worlds safest' list that follow different criteria?

Ok, found it. Not 'safest', but 'best':

http://www.worldairlineawards.com/Aw...t_airline.html

1. CATHAY PACIFIC AIRWAYS
2. QATAR AIRWAYS
3. SINGAPORE AIRLINES
4. EMIRATES
5. TURKISH AIRLINES
6. ANA ALL NIPPON AIRWAYS
7. GARUDA INDONESIA
8. ASIANA AIRLINES
9. ETIHAD AIRWAYS
10. LUFTHANSA

Number 5 is a name I wouldn't have expected to see in that list to be honest.

And why isn't QANTAS there?

[Romulus]

Originally Posted by GasOLane

Now that you've done your name dropping to show the rest of us that you really are into Aircraft, perhaps you'd like to share your knowledge re: SQ CX LCC Deathstar and Scarebus.

SQ - Singapore Airlines
CX - Cathay Pacific
LCC - Low Cost Carrier
Death Star - Jetstar
Scarebus - Airbus

I trust this better explain the acronyms.

[Romulus]

Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

I don't get it. I was only watching a report a few days ago that stated the safest carrier in the world was in fact Cathay Pacific, followed by Quatar and then Singapore Air. They only mentioned the top 3.

I'll try and look it up, unless there is more than 1 'Worlds safest' list that follow different criteria?

Ok, found it. Not 'safest', but 'best':

http://www.worldairlineawards.com/Aw...t_airline.html

1. CATHAY PACIFIC AIRWAYS
2. QATAR AIRWAYS
3. SINGAPORE AIRLINES
4. EMIRATES
5. TURKISH AIRLINES
6. ANA ALL NIPPON AIRWAYS
7. GARUDA INDONESIA
8. ASIANA AIRLINES
9. ETIHAD AIRWAYS
10. LUFTHANSA

Number 5 is a name I wouldn't have expected to see in that list to be honest.

And why isn't QANTAS there?

The awards you state are based on customer feedback based of their experience of the airline they choose to fly. It's obvious customers have no idea about airline safety, which explains why Qantas doesn't make an appearance. I could assume cost is more important than safety for some.

http://www.airlineratings.com/news/4...lines-for-2015

Top of the list again is Qantas which has a fatality free record in the jet era. Making up the remainder of the top ten in alphabetical order are: Air New Zealand, British Airways, Cathay Pacific Airways, , Emirates, Etihad Airways, EVA Air, Finnair, Lufthansa and Singapore Airlines. AirlineRatings.com’s rating system takes into account a range of factors related to audits from aviation’s governing bodies such as the FAA and ICAO as well as government audits and the airline’s fatality record.

[Tassie f100]

Saw the tailend of a report on the idiot box last night where they said in the last year there were 27 million aircraft movements and 21 crashes.Pretty amazing figures when compared to the worlds expert car drivers

[EgoFG]

The bottom of the linked page states that these figures are from a "passenger satisfaction survey" not at all safety related - passengers from the unsafest airlines are unable to fill in surveys .. oops ... too soon

Originally Posted by F6 Concorde

The awards you state are based on customer feedback based of their experience of the airline they choose to fly. It's obvious customers have no idea about airline safety, which explains why Qantas doesn't make an appearance. I could assume cost is more important than safety for some.

http://www.airlineratings.com/news/4...lines-for-2015

Top of the list again is Qantas which has a fatality free record in the jet era. Making up the remainder of the top ten in alphabetical order are: Air New Zealand, British Airways, Cathay Pacific Airways, , Emirates, Etihad Airways, EVA Air, Finnair, Lufthansa and Singapore Airlines. AirlineRatings.com’s rating system takes into account a range of factors related to audits from aviation’s governing bodies such as the FAA and ICAO as well as government audits and the airline’s fatality record.

[Romulus]

Originally Posted by EgoFG

The bottom of the linked page states that these figures are from a "passenger satisfaction survey" not at all safety related - passengers from the unsafest airlines are unable to fill in surveys .. oops ... too soon

Well therein lies the problem with the survey as how do you quantify passenger satisfaction? Cheap fares? Good meals?

Safety surveys can be quantified as they're based on statistics.

[ltd]

Someone puts the latest assessment into perspective, I think I'd tend to agree:

While there's no disputing ‪#‎Qantas‬ is a good airline, to claim it's the world's safest is somewhat ludicrous. The site that published the recent "World's Safest Airline" findings is run by Geoffrey Thomas - one of the most clueless journalists covering Australian Aviation (I've got video of him calling an ILS an "Instrumental Lighting System"... and that's just the start). Seriously, what this guy knows about aviation is about the same as what most pilots forget about flying every time they visit the in-flight lav. There is a clear editorial and personal bias - and a incestuous commercial influence - in GT's reporting that can't be ignored.

Terrible, terrible reporting... and, arguably, an abuse of the duty of care he's inherited by virtue of our dimwit TV stations that persist is putting him in front of a camera as an "expert" (laughable, I know) every time an aircraft does a go-around.
We have just created our own system at Flight that determines 'safety ratings' in a color blind manner. It uses daily (social and other) meta data and known facts (everything from OTP to management turnover, and everything in between) to establish trending moods (safety, commercial, and emotional). It uses every accident, incident and known safety infraction to determine a score (independent of customer ratings which are scored differently). On top of this - as many of you are aware - we aggregate tens of thousands of news articles every day that we mine for data to build a 'consumer confidence rating'. It's the only system of its kind and it is highly accurate. Needless to say, Qantas (nor any other Aussie airline) is in the top three. Marty tells me that the public system and API will be available soon.

Stupid reports by clueless people make me mad. Can you tell?

Have a nice day. Jeremy.

Maybe the title of "Worlds luckiest airline" would be more apt for Qantas.

[CoupeKing]

Originally Posted by ltd

Someone puts the latest assessment into perspective, I think I'd tend to agree:



Maybe the title of "Worlds luckiest airline" would be more apt for Qantas.

I`m no Pilot, but I could have said that 10 years ago

[MITCHAY]

Well when you've been around that long, some luck has to play some part. 90+ years. 60+ years without fatalities. I bet many airlines would trade places in an instance.

If that is not worthy of safest airline in the world I don't know what is. I must admit I don't fly much (domestic only so far) but always book with Qantas and a big factor that plays into that is they have a safety record behind them.

I always get baggage, food and drink, and entertainment thrown in the price so that is also enough incentive to pay the extra. I have never had a negative experience that has been within their control.

I don't know if the 737s with the new cabin lighting and headrest screens are retrofits or new planes but they are nice to fly on nonetheless.

Oh well Q streaming went down and a couple of dodgy Ipads last flight. About the most I can complain about.

[Moby Vic]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJZQkslDBjM

[Romulus]

Originally Posted by ltd

Someone puts the latest assessment into perspective, I think I'd tend to agree:



Maybe the title of "Worlds luckiest airline" would be more apt for Qantas.

After the 380 incident, absolutely. That incident also earns the title of the Worlds most expensive aircraft repair.

I'll never fly on a 380.

[Mainforcepatrol]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

Well when you've been around that long, some luck has to play some part. 90+ years. 60+ years without fatalities. I bet many airlines would trade places in an instance.

If that is not worthy of safest airline in the world I don't know what is. I must admit I don't fly much (domestic only so far) but always book with Qantas and a big factor that plays into that is they have a safety record behind them.

I always get baggage, food and drink, and entertainment thrown in the price so that is also enough incentive to pay the extra. I have never had a negative experience that has been within their control.

I don't know if the 737s with the new cabin lighting and headrest screens are retrofits or new planes but they are nice to fly on nonetheless.

Oh well Q streaming went down and a couple of dodgy Ipads last flight. About the most I can complain about.

The later series aircraft delivered new came with headset screens and new interior lighting called the Boeing Sky Interior.

[Mainforcepatrol]

Originally Posted by F6 Concorde

After the 380 incident, absolutely. That incident also earns the title of the Worlds most expensive aircraft repair.

I'll never fly on a 380.

If it was written off it would have counted as a hull loss.Most likely Rolls Royce picking up the tab for the repair.