Facebook censorship

[Trump]

Originally Posted by Facebook Terms of Service

Sharing Your Content and Information

You own all of the content and information you post on Facebook, and you can control how it is shared through your privacy and application settings. In addition:

1. For content that is covered by intellectual property rights, like photos and videos (IP content), you specifically give us the following permission, subject to your privacy and application settings: you grant us a non-exclusive, transferable, sub-licensable, royalty-free, worldwide license to use any IP content that you post on or in connection with Facebook (IP License). This IP License ends when you delete your IP content or your account unless your content has been shared with others, and they have not deleted it.
2. When you delete IP content, it is deleted in a manner similar to emptying the recycle bin on a computer. However, you understand that removed content may persist in backup copies for a reasonable period of time (but will not be available to others).
3. When you use an application, the application may ask for your permission to access your content and information as well as content and information that others have shared with you. We require applications to respect your privacy, and your agreement with that application will control how the application can use, store, and transfer that content and information. (To learn more about Platform, including how you can control what information other people may share with applications, read our Data Policy and Platform Page.)
4. When you publish content or information using the Public setting, it means that you are allowing everyone, including people off of Facebook, to access and use that information, and to associate it with you (i.e., your name and profile picture).
5. We always appreciate your feedback or other suggestions about Facebook, but you understand that we may use your feedback or suggestions without any obligation to compensate you for them (just as you have no obligation to offer them).

https://www.facebook.com/terms


However, section 18 is of greater import:

Originally Posted by Facebook Terms of Service

1. Other
   1. If you are a resident of or have your principal place of business in the US or Canada, this Statement is an agreement between you and Facebook, Inc. Otherwise, this Statement is an agreement between you and Facebook Ireland Limited. References to “us,” “we,” and “our” mean either Facebook, Inc. or Facebook Ireland Limited, as appropriate.
   2. This Statement makes up the entire agreement between the parties regarding Facebook, and supersedes any prior agreements.
   3. If any portion of this Statement is found to be unenforceable, the remaining portion will remain in full force and effect.
   4. If we fail to enforce any of this Statement, it will not be considered a waiver.
   5. Any amendment to or waiver of this Statement must be made in writing and signed by us.
   6. You will not transfer any of your rights or obligations under this Statement to anyone else without our consent.
   7. All of our rights and obligations under this Statement are freely assignable by us in connection with a merger, acquisition, or sale of assets, or by operation of law or otherwise.
   8. Nothing in this Statement shall prevent us from complying with the law.
   9. This Statement does not confer any third party beneficiary rights.
   10. We reserve all rights not expressly granted to you.
   11. You will comply with all applicable laws when using or accessing Facebook.

That's their get out of jail card.

[NX74205]

Originally Posted by Loud_Noises

https://www.facebook.com/terms


However, section 18 is of greater import:


That's their get out of jail card.

What exactly is your issue there? Those are standard 'boilerplate' clauses which are in just about every contract. Nothing controversial there.

[Serial_Fool]

At the end of the day Facebook is optional. You don't need to be on that website and when you do use it you can expect them to do what they like with you and the information that you give them.

30 years ago could you imagine giving a private corporation/government your family photos (by extension your GPS coordinates), phone number and address?

Call me a conspiracy nut but it's gone too far.

Facebook is severely overvalued as a stock too.

[Silver']

Ok. You're a conspiracy nut.

30 years ago, we adopted EFTPOS in Aus. Imagine your every purchase being traceable!?!?!?!? One step too far, surely. You'd have to be an idiot to expose yourself that way...surely even a serial fool would only ever use cash. Right?

[Trump]

Originally Posted by Serial_Fool

At the end of the day Facebook is optional. You don't need to be on that website and when you do use it you can expect them to do what they like with you and the information that you give them.

30 years ago could you imagine giving a private corporation/government your family photos (by extension your GPS coordinates), phone number and address?

Call me a conspiracy nut but it's gone too far.

Facebook is severely overvalued as a stock too.

Every bubble stock reverts to its intrinsic value: zero.

[Serial_Fool]

Originally Posted by Silver'

Ok. You're a conspiracy nut.

30 years ago, we adopted EFTPOS in Aus. Imagine your every purchase being traceable!?!?!?!? One step too far, surely. You'd have to be an idiot to expose yourself that way...surely even a serial fool would only ever use cash. Right?

False equivalence. You either address the concerns about Mr. Zuckerberg making billions from obtaining and selling your information, or you're just blowing smoke.

The NASDAQ composite index is now officially 3% higher than the levels from 2000. Within 12 months we're going to see a major revaluation in these horrid tech stocks.

[Silver']

What??? Of course he sells your information. So people can target you with ads within Facebook. It's not rocket science and it IS worth a crapload of money. It's not a tech stock, it's an advertising stock.

Now...

What's false about my equating your fear of giving information to Facebook vs fear of giving information to a bank? Or did you think using the term 'false equivalence' grant you an automatic win in some way?

They're both companies out to make a profit off you, in return for a service. At least Facebook is optional, try getting by without a bank account...

[mike_nofx]

Originally Posted by Serial_Fool

At the end of the day Facebook is optional. You don't need to be on that website and when you do use it you can expect them to do what they like with you and the information that you give them.

30 years ago could you imagine giving a private corporation/government your family photos (by extension your GPS coordinates), phone number and address?

Call me a conspiracy nut but it's gone too far.

Facebook is severely overvalued as a stock too.

Surely completing the Census is worse, and it's illegal NOT to complete the Census, and accurately too.