Powershift tranmission sensor?

[toyota lexcen]

hi,

my toyota lexcen has gone to the wreckers so after new vehicle

have the Powershift sensor issues improved over the years?

thanks

[rondeo]

Not sure that's a question anyone knows the answer to. Possible exception of FoMoCo.

You can be certain of a large repair bill though, should you require it.

That may be offset by high depreciation in your favour as a buyer. My Guess is transmission failures are not common, but the perception is poor.

[sailaway]

Originally Posted by toyota lexcen

hi,

my toyota lexcen has gone to the wreckers so after new vehicle

have the Powershift sensor issues improved over the years?

thanks

Why ask herein the FORD MONDEO Forum?

[toyota lexcen]

Originally Posted by rondeo

Not sure that's a question anyone knows the answer to. Possible exception of FoMoCo.

You can be certain of a large repair bill though, should you require it.

That may be offset by high depreciation in your favour as a buyer. My Guess is transmission failures are not common, but the perception is poor.

thank rondeo

yeah looks like about 2.5k-3k bill reading other threads here in the forums

interested in a diesel wagon 2012 or 2013, have taken a few for a test drive and put in some offers (melbourne based)

been checking the "information" for "messgaes" on the dash, yes it seems something to budget for when buying one

[NZ XR6]

My guess is that at some point the issue with the speed sensor was rectified. So a newer MC may be less likely to have the problem.

A mechanical warranty would be a sensible precaution.



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[whitelion65]

Coming up for 100,000 on my MC TDCI, no problems with the tranny, touch wood.

[Mondaveo]

Originally Posted by toyota lexcen

have the Powershift sensor issues improved over the years?

Regarding fault repair, it's been said that the replacement sensor has a revised design and doesn't go bad. Like NZ XR6, my guess is the revision was rolled into production at some point (2012-13?). We've really only seen members report issues in 2010 to 2012 build-plated cars, so it might be fair to say it's improved with time?

Originally Posted by toyota lexcen

been checking the "information" for "messgaes" on the dash

Unfortunately the Powershift sensor fault is the kind of issue that doesn't tend to produce any dashboard messages (unless it really loses its bundle, and then there are more obvious indicators that something's not right). Balking or hesitations in engaging gear is the general symptom. If you have an OBDII scanner you may be able to see a fault code like P0715 in the TCM.

Originally Posted by rondeo

That may be offset by high depreciation in your favour as a buyer. My Guess is transmission failures are not common, but the perception is poor.

The perception question would be an interesting one to study. Powershift's name is mud thanks to the class action, but anyone reasonably informed would know that only concerns Focus, Fiesta and EcoSport models. It seems Mondeo problems weren't/aren't widely known or reported (in used buying guides, etc) though we know it has them. I only found this article from six months ago that calls out the DCT problems, but nothing like that warning had been published when I was in the market between 1-2 years ago, for example.

[toyota lexcen]

thanks for the replies,

yes I have read that review,

the TDCI seem to be a great buy (depreciation) and repairs in the range of 2-3k is not astronomical but its also the process of time off the road and having/finding someone to complete the wok

[bundybear75]

Mine is a 12/12 model that the sensor failed in at 134,000km. The transmission place assured me the new part is redesigned and shouldn't fail again but time will tell. It's now 12 months and 30,000 + km later and no more issues.

Would I buy another one? In a heartbeat. For the price they are used, I don't think you can get a better car. Comfortable, economical, powerful.

[rondeo]

Originally Posted by Mondaveo

Regarding fault repair, it's been said that the replacement sensor has a revised design and doesn't go bad. Like NZ XR6, my guess is the revision was rolled into production at some point (2012-13?). We've really only seen members report issues in 2010 to 2012 build-plated cars, so it might be fair to say it's improved with time?



Unfortunately the Powershift sensor fault is the kind of issue that doesn't tend to produce any dashboard messages (unless it really loses its bundle, and then there are more obvious indicators that something's not right). Balking or hesitations in engaging gear is the general symptom. If you have an OBDII scanner you may be able to see a fault code like P0715 in the TCM.


The perception question would be an interesting one to study. Powershift's name is mud thanks to the class action, but anyone reasonably informed would know that only concerns Focus, Fiesta and EcoSport models. It seems Mondeo problems weren't/aren't widely known or reported (in used buying guides, etc) though we know it has them. I only found this article from six months ago that calls out the DCT problems, but nothing like that warning had been published when I was in the market between 1-2 years ago, for example.

Mondaveo, how do you make the links in your text?

The German Mondeo Mk4 forum has a polling (not appalling) system it seems.
Of 99 polled 36, I think it was, had the DCT and 32 were satisfied.
Means not much though since problems go to forums?
I just googled Mondeo Mk4.de
Ï Like the 'Landing Gear' translation.

[Mondaveo]

Originally Posted by rondeo

Mondaveo, how do you make the links in your text?

Sorry, I missed your question earlier. It's done with BBcode 'URL' tags which are documented here. If you use the standard web-based post editor look for the 'blue globe' button (6th on quick reply and 11th on the second line in 'full' mode) which makes it easy to insert the markup into your post.

Originally Posted by rondeo

The German Mondeo Mk4 forum has a polling (not appalling) system it seems.
Of 99 polled 36, I think it was, had the DCT and 32 were satisfied.
Means not much though since problems go to forums?
I just googled Mondeo Mk4.de
Ï Like the 'Landing Gear' translation.

The lack of complaints out of Europe is really puzzling to me. I had assumed the bigger population and greater popularity of the car (compared to the relative obscurity here) would ensure that endemic issues would get amply reported online. The lack of such when I searched convinced me that failures must be rare and it couldn't happen to me. 12 months later and of course, it had and I'd counted 6 other people reporting it in theirs on these forums besides. Now, anytime I see another MC on the road I wonder if they've gone through it. So, I dunno? An Aussie-only thing, or one or more of my initial assumptions were incorrect?

[NZ XR6]

I agree, it doesn't seem to be a big problem in Europe or NZ. Higher ambient temps in Oz maybe?

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[rondeo]

Originally Posted by Mondaveo

Sorry, I missed your question earlier. It's done with BBcode 'URL' tags which are documented here. If you use the standard web-based post editor look for the 'blue globe' button (6th on quick reply and 11th on the second line in 'full' mode) which makes it easy to insert the markup into your post.


The lack of complaints out of Europe is really puzzling to me. I had assumed the bigger population and greater popularity of the car (compared to the relative obscurity here) would ensure that endemic issues would get amply reported online. The lack of such when I searched convinced me that failures must be rare and it couldn't happen to me. 12 months later and of course, it had and I'd counted 6 other people reporting it in theirs on these forums besides. Now, anytime I see another MC on the road I wonder if they've gone through it. So, I dunno? An Aussie-only thing, or one or more of my initial assumptions were incorrect?

Thanks. Hope you get some joy after all that *****.