MD Mondeo air conditioning

mcsweenyfives · 28-01-2018, 06:33 PM

I have a Mondeo titanium wagon and when at traffic lights the air conditioning does not stay cool. I took it back to the dealer at last service who regard it and said it was fine. I have turned the auto start stop function off so that it is running the whole time. I checked the cooling fans and they are operating.
I have two theories. The fans do not suck enough air through the condenser as the fins on the fans do not look very big. The second option is the temperature sensor is not correct as I think it is reading lower than what the air actually is. Very rarely does the air actually feel 16-17 degrees.

Did anyone have the same issue on their MD Mondeo.

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gsd112 · 28-01-2018, 10:20 PM

Mine does this intermediately. Usually just after starting on a hot day.

asteele-xr6 · 29-01-2018, 07:11 AM

I have not noticed this myself in my MY16 Titanium Hatch

bananasnblow · 29-01-2018, 10:23 AM

My MC has the weakest aircon of any car I've had - best being BF Fairlane.

cobrin · 29-01-2018, 10:42 AM

only one way to find out, get a temp. probe and start checking air temps on it's lowest setting at the vent. A range of 3-7DegC is about as good as it gets.

Can also check if a 20DegC setting is in that ball park

asteele-xr6 · 29-01-2018, 10:46 AM

...if it is low on gas, then you might find that some car vents are cold, others less cold, and others warm - I had a vehicle with the left side cold and the right side warm - and it was due to low amount of gas.

mcsweenyfives · 29-01-2018, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by asteele-xr6

...if it is low on gas, then you might find that some car vents are cold, others less cold, and others warm - I had a vehicle with the left side cold and the right side warm - and it was due to low amount of gas.

Been regassed at last service. Made no change. I think it is the condenser fans aren't effective at sucking enough air through the condenser. They might be good in Europe but not that good in Oz.

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bananasnblow · 29-01-2018, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by asteele-xr6

...if it is low on gas, then you might find that some car vents are cold, others less cold, and others warm - I had a vehicle with the left side cold and the right side warm - and it was due to low amount of gas.

Which means theres a gas leak yes? Refill and same problem will occur?

asteele-xr6 · 29-01-2018, 11:07 AM

Exactly... they shouldn't refill the gas without first knowing how the original escaped in the first place! ...otherwise the replacement gas is just going to escape the same way. I had a 1 year old Peugeot that had some hoses perish and I lost the gas that way.

ope126 · 29-01-2018, 02:41 PM

No issues...

NX74205 · 29-01-2018, 03:10 PM

What setting do you use the air cond on? Mine is always set to Auto, 18C, and works a treat. The only time it hesitates is immediately after starting on a hot day, then it may take about 30 seconds to kick in.

Peter B - CV8 · 29-01-2018, 03:30 PM

A Mondeo wagon eehh ? There's a lot of extra glass & cabin space in a wagon isn't there..

bundybear75 · 29-01-2018, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter B - CV8

A Mondeo wagon eehh ? There's a lot of extra glass & cabin space in a wagon isn't there..

I have a 200 series Land Cruiser wagon and it has the coldest A/C of any vehicle I've ever owned (Lots more glass and a bigger space)

It is the GX (base model) and has the simple one zone A/C.

However my MC wagon is terrible. On very hot days it is lucky to cool to a reasonable level. I have had them re-gas it but still sub-standard. I just don't think the A/C unit is up to our Aussie conditions.

Peter B - CV8 · 29-01-2018, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bundybear75

I have a 200 series Land Cruiser wagon and it has the coldest A/C of any vehicle I've ever owned (Lots more glass and a bigger space)

It is the GX (base model) and has the simple one zone A/C.

However my MC wagon is terrible. On very hot days it is lucky to cool to a reasonable level. I have had them re-gas it but still sub-standard. I just don't think the A/C unit is up to our Aussie conditions.

Yep - no doubt Toyota probably over engineered their AC in view of the fact the vehicle was likely to be used in some extreme climates.
The Mondeo AC was probably only designed (and built to a budget) to operate in European extremes ie where a hot day is one that cracks into the 30's. Add on the extra cabin space & glass of the wagon & it's likely the AC system just isn't up to the task..

Smoke Pursuit · 29-01-2018, 04:08 PM

Mondeo AC has always been ordinary in my opinion. The MB XR5T we had was useless. I thought they would have sorted it out by now.

allanv6gt · 29-01-2018, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Smoke Pursuit

Mondeo AC has always been ordinary in my opinion. The MB XR5T we had was useless. I thought they would have sorted it out by now.

Ditto with my MB XR5T.
Very poor from day 1 of new car ownership. Would have been a deal breaker if I'd known beforehand. Dealer ''checked'' it three times during warranty and said all OK.
(Disclaimer: some dealers are better than others.)

Finally paid to get my regular mechanic to regas, and hey presto, works like it should. Last January at Narrabri it was a recorded 43deg outside, and aircon set on 20deg inside meant a very pleasant cool drive south to Coonabarabran for the overnite stop (have the photos to prove it!!)

Just get an independent to regas.

R12RT · 29-01-2018, 10:28 PM

No issues with the air con in my Mondeo.

The Auto 18°C setting gets too cold...

sailaway · 30-01-2018, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by R12RT

No issues with the air con in my Mondeo.

The Auto 18°C setting gets too cold...

Mine set to 16°C is just comfortable but nothing spectacular.

Always I hit the closed ventilation button after a minute running with window open and then closed. The car then only has to cool its own interior air.

mcsweenyfives · 30-01-2018, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter B - CV8

A Mondeo wagon eehh ? There's a lot of extra glass & cabin space in a wagon isn't there..

No more than a territory and it was cold as.

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11ford11 · 30-01-2018, 01:51 PM

Have someone spray condenser with hose while you test temp. remember that water will cool better than fan blowing hot air however.

cobrin · 30-01-2018, 02:48 PM

Mine must be a goodie, it's set to 21.5DegC and it's cold, if it's directed to the side of my face my earlobe aches, I don't keep it on my feet for anything more than 40mins on a long drive where it's 30+.

I have had the fan speed controller replaced circa 2015 as it failed. Seeing as there is only one fan in my MB it kept tripping the AC (overtemp) which wasn't appreciated 2hrs into a drive to Airlie Beach (from Cairns 48DegC day out in the middle of nowhere) early January. $700 and a few days later the trip home was lovely and cold. Nice Breakfast in Bowen too.

cyclone1410 · 30-01-2018, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by cobrin

Mine must be a goodie, it's set to 21.5DegC and it's cold, if it's directed to the side of my face my earlobe aches, I don't keep it on my feet for anything more than 40mins on a long drive where it's 30+.

I have had the fan speed controller replaced circa 2015 as it failed. Seeing as there is only one fan in my MB it kept tripping the AC (overtemp) which wasn't appreciated 2hrs into a drive to Airlie Beach (from Cairns 48DegC day out in the middle of nowhere) early January. $700 and a few days later the trip home was lovely and cold. Nice Breakfast in Bowen too.

My MC has been perfect as well. Was out in western Queensland on the weekend with low 40's outside and the car set to 22 inside. Very comfortable drive.

Papug · 31-01-2018, 12:32 AM

My new MD diesel is set for 22degC and is always cold in less the 1min.
It is the best air con. compere to my previous Mondeos, MA diesel (the worst) and MC Ecoboost.
I think that Ford is improving air con performance in each new model.

NZ XR6 · 01-02-2018, 07:45 PM

Yes, the MA aircon was poor. I think the dealer had a couple of attempts but it was never great.

The MB is fine unless it sits in the sun for a few hours. The Max setting does help.

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7summit7 · 24-02-2018, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mcsweenyfives

I have a Mondeo titanium wagon and when at traffic lights the air conditioning does not stay cool. I took it back to the dealer at last service who regard it and said it was fine. I have turned the auto start stop function off so that it is running the whole time. I checked the cooling fans and they are operating.
I have two theories. The fans do not suck enough air through the condenser as the fins on the fans do not look very big. The second option is the temperature sensor is not correct as I think it is reading lower than what the air actually is. Very rarely does the air actually feel 16-17 degrees.

Did anyone have the same issue on their MD Mondeo.

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I have noticed this as well.

NX74205 · 26-02-2018, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mcsweenyfives

Did anyone have the same issue on their MD Mondeo.

Just thinking back on this, the first time I test drove an MD at the dealer, way back in mid 2015, felt the same as what you had described. But when I tested the same car again a couple of months later, it felt fine, so I signed on.

My car - different one to the one that I tested - has no issues with the air conditioning.