Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated.

Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > General Topics > The Pub

The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 18-07-2018, 06:32 AM   #1
GO FURTHER
Moderator
 
GO FURTHER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 7,940
Tech Writer: Recognition for the technical writers of AFF - Issue reason: Fitting New Iridium Plugs & the state of the old ones - (Photo Essay) 
Default Australia’s shocking car buying intentions revealed

Interesting survey...

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/motorin...a0ca090e330296
GO FURTHER is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-07-2018, 07:40 AM   #2
danzvtil
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
danzvtil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 1,615
Default Re: Australia’s shocking car buying intentions revealed

What a lazily written article, short on any actual info. And it’s hardy a “shock” that a car buyer may consider a hybrid/electric drive train.
__________________
____________________

2019 LDV G10
2009 Mitsubishi Express-GONE
2011 Honda Jazz
____________________
danzvtil is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-07-2018, 07:58 AM   #3
DRU842
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Sydney
Posts: 775
Default Re: Australia’s shocking car buying intentions revealed

This is exactly the type of research that leads to great headlines and no change; ie focus group versus retail sales.
In my work I see this in reports of a surge in Natural / Organic products versus traditional Health & Personal Care products. When asked the question people will provide an idealized answer, particularly in a group session; when faced with an actual purchase they will stick with what they know.
__________________
2017 Mustang Lightening Blue, Cobb Intercooler, CAI, AccessPort, Turbo Blanket & V2 Exhaust, Mishimoto Down-Pipe & Overflow Tank, GFB DV+, Custom CRD Tune. Ford Performance Short Throw Shifter & Strut Brace. DBA T3 Brakes & Pads. Braided Brake Lines. H&R Coilovers. Anderson CF Track Pack Spoiler & Tailgate Panel. Blue CF/Leather Steering Wheel.
DRU842 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
5 users like this post:
Old 18-07-2018, 12:33 PM   #4
Vesper Martini
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Vesper Martini's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Victoria
Posts: 7,854
Default Re: Australia’s shocking car buying intentions revealed

What other articles has Dom Tripolone done?
__________________
______________________________
2015 Territory Titanium RWD Diesel - SOLD
2016 BMW X5 xdrive 30D Msport
Seadoo Challenger 210SE 310HP
Vesper Martini is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-07-2018, 02:27 PM   #5
Bossxr8
Peter Car
 
Bossxr8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: geelong
Posts: 23,145
Default Re: Australia’s shocking car buying intentions revealed

Buyers might consider going electric, then they see the price tag, and the poor designs (most of them), and the limited range of some of them, and then they walk away.

Proof is in the sales figures.
Bossxr8 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
3 users like this post:
Old 18-07-2018, 06:13 PM   #6
au350hp
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 1,341
Default Re: Australia’s shocking car buying intentions revealed

And this is only going to accelerate the interest. Whilst this is very impressive & reminds me of brake fluid burnouts on the electric forklifts at work, there is something just wrong with no engine noise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWLqi5NrLcM
au350hp is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-07-2018, 07:20 PM   #7
Sprintey
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Sprintey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Catland
Posts: 3,771
Default Re: Australia’s shocking car buying intentions revealed

Nah I reckon there's some truth to it. i can't recall a time where the new vehicle market has been less inspiring - dual cabs top of sales, SUV biggest segment and hardly any of them have proper AWD, Commodore is fwd, cars being reviewed based on their tech infotainment, death of manual gearbox, Corolla leads sales: faced with such blandness, why not go electric? After all, the Tesla SUV smokes most performance cars in the straight line.

Also, so many have solar so a plug in Phev or full EV means no more paying Mr Oil Co. This in itself is liberating, and goes back to the original freedom cars represented.
__________________
I6 + AWD
Sprintey is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
3 users like this post:
Old 18-07-2018, 08:55 PM   #8
b0son
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 5,075
Default Re: Australia’s shocking car buying intentions revealed

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sprintey View Post
Nah I reckon there's some truth to it. i can't recall a time where the new vehicle market has been less inspiring
Same. My lease is up in a few months, and I've decided to get a buzzbox runabout, and buying something older but with more character as a weekend car.
b0son is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 18-07-2018, 09:25 PM   #9
jgmdat
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 359
Default Re: Australia’s shocking car buying intentions revealed

Test drove a MY18 Mustang yesterday with the active exhaust, an electric car will never be in my garage while we still have cars that sound like the new Mustang does.
jgmdat is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
5 users like this post:
Old 19-07-2018, 12:21 AM   #10
Crazy Dazz
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Perth, Northern Suburbs
Posts: 5,011
Default Re: Australia’s shocking car buying intentions revealed

Quote:
Originally Posted by GO FURTHER View Post
Quote:
However, it seems that buyers’ good intentions do not translate to purchases.
Says it all really.

Saying that people would "consider" something is hardly earth-shattering.
When we last bought a new car, we would have happily bought a Prius if it were priced similarly to a Lancer or Hyundai, but they're not.
If and when an Electric car can match the range, refuelling, and price of a petrol, we'll probably buy one. (Although I expect to be dead before that happens.)
Crazy Dazz is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 19-07-2018, 12:25 AM   #11
Crazy Dazz
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Perth, Northern Suburbs
Posts: 5,011
Default Re: Australia’s shocking car buying intentions revealed

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sprintey View Post
Also, so many have solar so a plug in Phev or full EV means no more paying Mr Oil Co. This in itself is liberating, and goes back to the original freedom cars represented.

yeah, stick it to The Man brother.
Who are you going to buy your solar cells and electric car from? Your local organic commune?
Crazy Dazz is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 19-07-2018, 06:17 AM   #12
Sprintey
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Sprintey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Catland
Posts: 3,771
Default Re: Australia’s shocking car buying intentions revealed

I've already bought them Daz - the solar cells sit above the garage housing my V8 fuel-into-fun converter. Home battery costs coming down quickly.
As for electric, hybrid now at that 20k price range (new Corolla) trade for runabout electric in 2021 at same price range, and the providers will include Toyota, VW, Ford, GM - they are all racing into this.
You dont have to be a wowser NIMBY hippy hypocrite to see where its going.

Bonus: 37c a litre fuel tax to govco then optional - that will be more sticking it to the man
__________________
I6 + AWD
Sprintey is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 19-07-2018, 06:25 AM   #13
Sprintey
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Sprintey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Catland
Posts: 3,771
Default Re: Australia’s shocking car buying intentions revealed

Quote:
Originally Posted by b0son View Post
Same. My lease is up in a few months, and I've decided to get a buzzbox runabout, and buying something older but with more character as a weekend car.
Boson, for buzz boxes Yaris can be fun in manual around town, swift, - Jap built and should give no headaches. Something about driving a slow car fast better than a fast car slow...

& gotta give Ford credit here, Mustang really is a shining light in this vehicle market.
__________________
I6 + AWD
Sprintey is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 19-07-2018, 06:55 AM   #14
78xcgxl
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
78xcgxl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: VIC
Posts: 1,130
Default Re: Australia’s shocking car buying intentions revealed

Herald Sun need i say more, what a joke of a newspaper...
78xcgxl is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 19-07-2018, 08:05 AM   #15
tranquilized
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 1,112
Default Re: Australia’s shocking car buying intentions revealed

I can pretty much guarantee my VF V8 family wagon (that I rarely get to drive anyway) will be replaced with a hybrid of some sort - those new Volvo's look the biz - and something older and noisier for a weekend car. Win Win.
tranquilized is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 19-07-2018, 08:14 AM   #16
au350hp
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 1,341
Default Re: Australia’s shocking car buying intentions revealed

Quote:
Originally Posted by b0son View Post
Same. My lease is up in a few months, and I've decided to get a buzzbox runabout, and buying something older but with more character as a weekend car.
Hopefully it will be this mentality that keeps people interested in Australian built cars.
au350hp is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 19-07-2018, 11:30 AM   #17
b0son
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 5,075
Default Re: Australia’s shocking car buying intentions revealed

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sprintey View Post
Boson, for buzz boxes Yaris can be fun in manual around town, swift, - Jap built and should give no headaches. Something about driving a slow car fast better than a fast car slow...
I'm thinking the 2018 refresh of the Citroen C4 Cactus... I just cant bring myself to own a Toyota. They are the Sunbeams of the automotive world.
b0son is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 19-07-2018, 11:40 AM   #18
eb2fairmont
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 837
Default Re: Australia’s shocking car buying intentions revealed

how is this news?

Of course aussies are going to not buy Ev’s due to range anxiety issues more than anything else.

And it’s not news about diesel it’s a mixture of the torque delivery and fuel economy which has gained converts.

Aussies have never been one for cars which are gutless
eb2fairmont is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 19-07-2018, 02:25 PM   #19
b0son
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 5,075
Default Re: Australia’s shocking car buying intentions revealed

Quote:
Originally Posted by eb2fairmont View Post
Of course aussies are going to not buy Ev’s due to range anxiety issues more than anything else.
anxiety undersells the problem. we aren't Europe, many people do have to travel fairly large distances, or at the very least, want a car that is practical to take on holidays/interstate.

'sorry kids, we have to wait for a couple hours for the car to recharge' isn't really practical.
b0son is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 19-07-2018, 05:47 PM   #20
Crazy Dazz
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Perth, Northern Suburbs
Posts: 5,011
Default Re: Australia’s shocking car buying intentions revealed

When looking to buy an Uber-mobile for her indoors, I narrowed it down to either Camry Hybrid or Mondeo TD. Their popularity with squandering government departments and local govts ensured a steady supply of Hybrids onto the 2nd hand market at reasonable prices. So at the right price, why not consider them.

But see, this is the joke. I'm not a techophobic Neanderthal, I'm not biased against Hybrids or even EVs. When they are fit for purpose, and fit the budget, I'm happy to consider them.
But those biased in favour, who buy them just because, and even when it makes no financial sense, in some mistaken belief they are saving Dolphins and Pandas, are idiots.
Crazy Dazz is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 19-07-2018, 09:47 PM   #21
Ben73
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Ben73's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: NSW
Posts: 4,335
Default Re: Australia’s shocking car buying intentions revealed

I'm sure half the population would consider a Hybrid since it's not really a compromise at all for day to day driving.
But I bet people who would seriously consider a full electric vehicles are right down in a low single digits.
Did I miss that or did they not say how many people would consider an electric car.
Ben73 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 20-07-2018, 09:07 AM   #22
Mercury Bullet
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: WA
Posts: 3,705
Default Re: Australia’s shocking car buying intentions revealed

Quote:
Originally Posted by danzvtil View Post
What a lazily written article, short on any actual info. And it’s hardy a “shock” that a car buyer may consider a hybrid/electric drive train.
I would like to see a survey like this broken down into demographics.

How many respondents are living within a few km of the cbd?
How many live in Turkey creek?
__________________
www.bseries.com.au/mercurybullet

2016 Falcon XR8. Powered by the legend that is - David Winter.
XC Cobra #181.
1985 Mack Superliner, CAT 3408, 24 speed Allison.
Mercury Bullet is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 20-07-2018, 10:04 AM   #23
eb2fairmont
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 837
Default Re: Australia’s shocking car buying intentions revealed

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazy Dazz View Post
When looking to buy an Uber-mobile for her indoors, I narrowed it down to either Camry Hybrid or Mondeo TD. Their popularity with squandering government departments and local govts ensured a steady supply of Hybrids onto the 2nd hand market at reasonable prices. So at the right price, why not consider them.

But see, this is the joke. I'm not a techophobic Neanderthal, I'm not biased against Hybrids or even EVs. When they are fit for purpose, and fit the budget, I'm happy to consider them.
But those biased in favour, who buy them just because, and even when it makes no financial sense, in some mistaken belief they are saving Dolphins and Pandas, are idiots.
Each should be sold with a picture of a nickel mine on the frobt
eb2fairmont is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Reply


Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 04:42 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL