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Old 24-03-2006, 08:11 AM   #1
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Default Boost or Flow an EF Fairmont on LPG?

Hey Everyone, after some advice, preferably from guys who have already done similar.

I just bought an EFII Fairmont 4.0L. I have access to a cheap turbo in good nick with internal wastegate so is relatively easy to hook up, a few questions...

1) How much boost can I run with no intercooler and no mods to ECU/timing/fuel etc, just hooked straight up. Is this even possible without risking damage?

2)Am I better off doing pod filter/extractors/cam?

3)I will eventually convert it to LPG so will this affect either setup?

4)What kind of power and 1/4 mile times can I expect with either setup? I will shortly be swapping in a 3.45LSD.

On top of the diff, my budget will be no more than $1500 so want best bang for my buck, and the reason why the turbo setup will only be a low pressure setup.

Hope I'm not way off the mark with all this, I don't know much about turbos, I just wanna go faster on my tight ИИИИ budget.

Thanks guys.
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Old 24-03-2006, 07:37 PM   #2
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1) 0psi
2) Theres a bit of price/power difference between a turbo setup and 'filter/extractors/cam'
3) You can still run LPG on turbo cars, LPG gear isn't cheap though, as you need to do it properly.
4) between 17sec and 10sec.

I don't think $1500 is enough for a reliable turbo setup at all. There is a lot more to a turbo setup than a turbo. Have a search on the forums for other peoples setups and problems.
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Old 24-03-2006, 07:39 PM   #3
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ignoring the other questions, $1500 won't go far for a turbo setup.
i'd deffinately just do the small things, maybe a T5 conversion to liven it up a tad.

3.45 LSD, cat back exhaust, wade cam & T5 would be my budget mods.
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Old 24-03-2006, 08:18 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by Clevo383
Hey Everyone, after some advice, preferably from guys who have already done similar.

I just bought an EFII Fairmont 4.0L. I have access to a cheap turbo in good nick with internal wastegate so is relatively easy to hook up, a few questions...

1) How much boost can I run with no intercooler and no mods to ECU/timing/fuel etc, just hooked straight up. Is this even possible without risking damage?

2)Am I better off doing pod filter/extractors/cam?

3)I will eventually convert it to LPG so will this affect either setup?

4)What kind of power and 1/4 mile times can I expect with either setup? I will shortly be swapping in a 3.45LSD.

On top of the diff, my budget will be no more than $1500 so want best bang for my buck, and the reason why the turbo setup will only be a low pressure setup.

Hope I'm not way off the mark with all this, I don't know much about turbos, I just wanna go faster on my tight ИИИИ budget.

Thanks guys.
Dennis
1) about 4PSI would be pretty safe if you have a rising rate reg. But LPG is MUCH EASIER to set up.

2) I dont know

3) yes, I can tell you how to make your LPG work with boost (because I found out here

4) Power? 120 - 140 RWKW 1/4 mile unk
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Old 25-03-2006, 12:46 AM   #5
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well for a $1500 budget id go with effalcon's suggestion... i myself would be leaving $3500 for a turbo and get it done properly. and a LPG conversion is lookin to set u back around $1800 by professional. $1k if u have the know-how...don't know nothin about turbos so i dunno how LPG would effect it
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Old 25-03-2006, 12:27 PM   #6
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Same as above. Want a turbo. Save up 6-10k then come back.
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Old 25-03-2006, 12:49 PM   #7
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You can hook up the turbo cheaply, and probably on your budget too. all you need is:
rising rate fuel pressure regulator $250
Turbo flange welded to manifold $150
Oil lines and tee piece $120
Bosch 044 or equivelent $440
dump pipe $200
turbo pipe to throttle body $40
silicon hose joiners and clamps $100
lots of labour free done by you
you really should have the timing and mixtures checked on a dyno
but 6 psi has been run with no problems on many vehicles.
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