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Old 04-05-2019, 06:04 PM   #1
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Default Any former AU mechanics out there ?

Looking for some help to solve a rubber bush problem - see here

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Old 04-05-2019, 06:11 PM   #2
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What about a couple of sway bar rubbers mate?
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Old 04-05-2019, 06:58 PM   #3
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What about a couple of sway bar rubbers mate?
Thats the sort of shape but the inside diameter needs to be much smaller, more like 7-8mm and about 15mm outside
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The generic name is "cotton reel bush" if they are fully round, else it's a "D bush". You need to be fairly accurate with the ID, OD, length.

Also, clean, fresh, true rubber can be cut and joined with good quality cyanoacrylate ("superglue"). No such possibility with cold cast polyurethane (eg SuperPro, Nolathane) bushes.

Further to that, if you're really stuck, a low volume/prototyping option is Flexane 80.

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Old 04-05-2019, 08:43 PM   #5
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Can you this to find what you need: https://superpro.com.au/bush-sizing
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Can you this to find what you need: https://superpro.com.au/bush-sizing
Nothing small enough there. Yes its a D bush shape that is required because its flat at the top.

I found a former ford mechanic via the T Series Club and he said they were the same from the introduction of the BTR starting from the E series and 6 cyl was the same but of course only on side

I bought an exhaust hanger mount and began cutting that down but gave it away before I lost a finger as the rubber is quite hard. Might have to continue down that path and think of some sort of power tool to use instead of a stanley knife

Other option is to just try asking for a D bush at auto stores with correct measurements at hand. Even a cotton reel bush thats a bit undersize would do as the raised ends would stop it from sliding out.

There are going to be a lot of people looking for something as even the same rubbers on my TL50 with only 114K and no leaks are starting to fall apart
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Have you got a Ford part number for the assembly?

I would also try emailing Mackat rubber to see if they can help https://www.mackayrubber.com.au/ Request for information:

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Have you got a Ford part number for the assembly?

I would also try emailing Mackat rubber to see if they can help https://www.mackayrubber.com.au/ Request for information:

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No I don't have the part number but can get it (was thru a friend of a friend)
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Would something like Fleabay 253827956861 give up a suitable D bush?
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Would something like Fleabay 253827956861 give up a suitable D bush?
That one is a bit rich at $35 inc postage but I found another the same for $17 with free post.
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Another member in the other thread has come up with a solution using 120Y spring shackle bushes. I need to clarify how he is fitting them as he has done this repair a few times using these
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Use a piece of rubber hose. Slit it longitudinal and slip it in. Coolant or oil hose will suit. Hydraulic will be thicker.

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Use a piece of rubber hose. Slit it longitudinal and slip it in. Coolant or oil hose will suit. Hydraulic will be thicker.

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Have done that with some garden hose as a temporary fix but its a bit hard, Couldn't find a rubber hose with the correct inside and outside diameter
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As you mentioned earlier, those bushes have been around since the E series - probably EA's and EB's.

With EF's/EL's, that rod is directly welded to the plate, and the rod becomes an upper mount for a std diamond shaped
rubber hanger which attaches to a bracket which mounts to the engine pipe rear. Bit of a pointless attachment with extractors,
as that rear engine pipe isn't moving a mm, in relation to the eng/trans.

If you can't find a bush substitute, you could do same - as it stands, you could weld (in situ) the rod directly to those brackets,
and tack those brackets too. Obviously those bushes are a NVH thing, but I would think the rear trans mount would do most of that.
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You can make your own bushes using polyurethane sealant.
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Ford part number for those bushes were EA5E220A for EA to AU3. Good luck finding genuine ones, they have been obsolete for years.
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search Youtube. how to make your own suspension bushes
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