Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated.

Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > General Topics > Non Ford Related Community Forums > Project Builds (non Car)

Project Builds (non Car) Here is an area where you can show / discuss other non car builds be they bikes, caravans, boats, BBQ's or whatever.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 18-05-2020, 10:51 AM   #1
Warrenk
Regular Member
 
Warrenk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 457
Default Polishing a Vintage Caravan

Our 1968 Roadhaven caravan is in exceptional condition for its age as it has been under cover all of its life except when it was used for holidays. The exterior however did show it age with 52 years of oxidation build up on the aluminium cladding and the stainless steel roof so I decided it needed to be brightened up. With 2 buff/sanders, an electric drill, various types of polishing mops, microfibre clothes/rags, a couple of 1 kg tins of Autosol and a couple of bottles Purple Polish I was ready to start. On Good Friday I started the job thinking about 3 weeks should be enough time. How wrong could I be as of today I am about 2/3rds finished, but it is looking good. The amount of black residue that is created from the oxidation and polish is unbelievable.
A couple of photos with before and after you see the difference the polishing makes.





Attached Images
File Type: jpg polishing1r.jpg (102.3 KB, 176 views)
File Type: jpg polishing2r.jpg (145.0 KB, 175 views)
__________________
Never argue with an idiot, they will bring you down to their level and beat with experience every time.

Last edited by PG2; 22-05-2020 at 08:56 AM. Reason: Imbeded the photos, if you want it changed back let me know
Warrenk is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-05-2020, 11:57 AM   #2
roKWiz
Cabover nut
 
roKWiz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Onsite Eastcoast
Posts: 11,324
Default Re: Polishing a Vintage Caravan

All those ribs to get around, not an easy job for you.
Looking at this I reckon an Airstream would be a snap.
__________________
heritagestonemason.com/Fordlouisvillerestoration
In order that the labour of centuries past may not be in vain during the centuries to come...... D. Diderot 1752

roKWiz is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 19-05-2020, 09:59 PM   #3
Warrenk
Regular Member
 
Warrenk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 457
Default Re: Polishing a Vintage Caravan

Quote:
Originally Posted by roKWiz View Post
All those ribs to get around, not an easy job for you.
Looking at this I reckon an Airstream would be a snap.
The ribs are OK, but the lines in the quilted pattern are the problem. As for an Airstream being a snap, I sort of agree with you there. They still would be a big job, but at least the metal is flat. The roof, which is stainless steel, is the job I thought would be harder, but is turning out easier because it is flat.
__________________
Never argue with an idiot, they will bring you down to their level and beat with experience every time.
Warrenk is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
3 users like this post:
Old 19-05-2020, 10:14 PM   #4
jaydee
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
jaydee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Perth
Posts: 7,222
Default Re: Polishing a Vintage Caravan

Good job.
Can you spray a clear on it at the end to preserve it?
__________________
jaydee351
4DV8
jaydee is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 19-05-2020, 11:12 PM   #5
Work Horse
Budget Racer
 
Work Horse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 2,421
Default Re: Polishing a Vintage Caravan

Quote:
Originally Posted by jaydee View Post
Good job.
Can you spray a clear on it at the end to preserve it?
Or put a cover over it and never take it off....
__________________
12.1@112Mph 285rwkw on n2o Cleveland Power
Work Horse is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 20-05-2020, 12:43 AM   #6
prydey
Rob
 
prydey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Woodcroft S.A.
Posts: 21,686
Default Re: Polishing a Vintage Caravan

Have you got one of these?
https://motherspolish.com.au/product/powerball/
__________________
UA2 TREND 4WD BI TURBO
prydey is online now   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 20-05-2020, 07:39 PM   #7
Warrenk
Regular Member
 
Warrenk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 457
Default Re: Polishing a Vintage Caravan

Quote:
Originally Posted by jaydee View Post
Good job.
Can you spray a clear on it at the end to preserve it?
A popular polish I am going to use which I came across while looking on Airstream forums was Nu Shine a once a year polish. Although it won't stop the aluminium oxidizing, it will extend the shine a bit longer.
__________________
Never argue with an idiot, they will bring you down to their level and beat with experience every time.
Warrenk is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 20-05-2020, 07:46 PM   #8
Warrenk
Regular Member
 
Warrenk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 457
Default Re: Polishing a Vintage Caravan

Quote:
Originally Posted by prydey View Post
I did try a polish mop similar to that ball, but it was to small for a job as big as the caravan. I used A polisher/sander with airflow metal polishing mop for the first pass and a loose calico mop for the second pass.
__________________
Never argue with an idiot, they will bring you down to their level and beat with experience every time.

Last edited by Warrenk; 20-05-2020 at 07:52 PM.
Warrenk is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
4 users like this post:
Old 20-05-2020, 10:32 PM   #9
wodahs
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
wodahs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: perth
Posts: 4,355
Default Re: Polishing a Vintage Caravan

i have a similar van in a similar condition but a 27 footer .........
can ya do mine next

but seriously looks like its coming on good
__________________
yes still (as money n time permit) doing the

rebuilding the zh fairlane with a clevo 400m 4v heads injected whipple blown with aode 4 speed trans to a 9" ....... we'll get there eventually

just remember don't be afraid to try something new.
Remember, amateurs built the Ark...Professionals built the Titanic!

I have taken up meditation... at least it's better than sitting around doing nothing !!
wodahs is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 20-05-2020, 10:40 PM   #10
jaydee
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
jaydee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Perth
Posts: 7,222
Default Re: Polishing a Vintage Caravan

Quote:
Originally Posted by Warrenk View Post
A popular polish I am going to use which I came across while looking on Airstream forums was Nu Shine a once a year polish. Although it won't stop the aluminium oxidizing, it will extend the shine a bit longer.
I've used that on my daughters little Suzuki Swift. She was working in Broome and Shark Bay. Lots of red dirt.
6 months later she came home (no work, Corona).
I washed the car and it looked great. I reckon that polish is pretty good.
__________________
jaydee351
4DV8
jaydee is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 21-05-2020, 07:33 AM   #11
roKWiz
Cabover nut
 
roKWiz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Onsite Eastcoast
Posts: 11,324
Default Re: Polishing a Vintage Caravan

Quote:
Originally Posted by wodahs View Post
i have a similar van in a similar condition but a 27 footer .........
can ya do mine next

but seriously looks like its coming on good
Oh, I was trying to butter him up for my trucks diesel tanks.
Yeah, you certainly go through a few polishing cloths doing this.
__________________
heritagestonemason.com/Fordlouisvillerestoration
In order that the labour of centuries past may not be in vain during the centuries to come...... D. Diderot 1752

roKWiz is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 21-05-2020, 01:24 PM   #12
Warrenk
Regular Member
 
Warrenk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 457
Default Re: Polishing a Vintage Caravan

Quote:
Originally Posted by wodahs View Post
i have a similar van in a similar condition but a 27 footer .........
can ya do mine next

but seriously looks like its coming on good
I have read that a 50% Ali Brite/ 50% water mixture applied with a spray bottle in sectionalised areas, then hosed off cleans the oxidation off. The aluminium is a lot brighter, but needs human intervention to make it shine.

I estimated something north of 150hrs (probably about 175hrs)for a 15 ft caravan. Double that for your 27ft van, plus about 6 - 700 dollars for polish, large stock pile of rags and microfibre cloths, an electric drill and a polisher/ sander and a range of polish mops which will almost get you ready to start.
__________________
Never argue with an idiot, they will bring you down to their level and beat with experience every time.
Warrenk is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
2 users like this post:
Old 21-05-2020, 02:39 PM   #13
roKWiz
Cabover nut
 
roKWiz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Onsite Eastcoast
Posts: 11,324
Default Re: Polishing a Vintage Caravan

Quote:
Originally Posted by Warrenk View Post
I have read that a 50% Ali Brite/ 50% water mixture applied with a spray bottle in sectionalised areas, then hosed off cleans the oxidation off. The aluminium is a lot brighter, but needs human intervention to make it shine.

I estimated something north of 150hrs (probably about 175hrs)for a 15 ft caravan. Double that for your 27ft van, plus about 6 - 700 dollars for polish, large stock pile of rags and microfibre cloths, an electric drill and a polisher/ sander and a range of polish mops which will almost get you ready to start.
All those flash polisher's on the market and I still reckon you can't beat good old Silvo. Available in most supermarkets, so much cheaper and if its good enough to earn the royal warrant.
Use it everywhere, truck alloy stuff, bicycle bits, cars and deck hardware on the boat.
__________________
heritagestonemason.com/Fordlouisvillerestoration
In order that the labour of centuries past may not be in vain during the centuries to come...... D. Diderot 1752

roKWiz is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 21-05-2020, 10:45 PM   #14
Warrenk
Regular Member
 
Warrenk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 457
Default Re: Polishing a Vintage Caravan

The trouble with polishes like Silvo and Brasso is they contain ammonia. From all the reading I have done on polishing aluminium it is not wise to use polishes with ammonia which can cause tarnishing of the aluminium in a short period of time.
A line taken from a US polishing forum "polishes contain ammonia which can cause aluminum to oxidize and tarnish a lot faster than it should. Products with ammonia seem to work really good but they do more damage in the long run. Be careful what you use!"
__________________
Never argue with an idiot, they will bring you down to their level and beat with experience every time.
Warrenk is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 22-05-2020, 07:24 AM   #15
roKWiz
Cabover nut
 
roKWiz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Onsite Eastcoast
Posts: 11,324
Default Re: Polishing a Vintage Caravan

Quote:
Originally Posted by Warrenk View Post
The trouble with polishes like Silvo and Brasso is they contain ammonia. From all the reading I have done on polishing aluminium it is not wise to use polishes with ammonia which can cause tarnishing of the aluminium in a short period of time.
A line taken from a US polishing forum "polishes contain ammonia which can cause aluminum to oxidize and tarnish a lot faster than it should. Products with ammonia seem to work really good but they do more damage in the long run. Be careful what you use!"
She looks great whatever you are using.

The idea of the Silvo type products is to knock off the dull surfaces first, then apply a car type polish (automotive application) over to protect finish.
Silvo itself recommends it for Aluminium. Says so on the can.

If I'm trying to use it on a really dull unrestored surface, I'll mix it with a little kerosene first to cut down the surface.
Some of those older fluted side caravans and buses had anodized finish which really slows down the process.
__________________
heritagestonemason.com/Fordlouisvillerestoration
In order that the labour of centuries past may not be in vain during the centuries to come...... D. Diderot 1752

roKWiz is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 22-05-2020, 10:42 AM   #16
Warrenk
Regular Member
 
Warrenk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 457
Default Re: Polishing a Vintage Caravan

Quote:
Originally Posted by roKWiz View Post
She looks great whatever you are using.

The idea of the Silvo type products is to knock off the dull surfaces first, then apply a car type polish (automotive application) over to protect finish.
Silvo itself recommends it for Aluminium. Says so on the can.

If I'm trying to use it on a really dull unrestored surface, I'll mix it with a little kerosene first to cut down the surface.
Some of those older fluted side caravans and buses had anodized finish which really slows down the process.
Make up metal polish yourself. All ingredients available and will be cheaper. If I was to polish another caravan(at this stage I doubt it) this is what I would try.
https://www.finishing.com/111/51.shtml
__________________
Never argue with an idiot, they will bring you down to their level and beat with experience every time.
Warrenk is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 22-05-2020, 01:52 PM   #17
GasoLane
Former BTIKD
Donating Member2
 
GasoLane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Sunny Downtown Wagga Wagga. NSW.
Posts: 53,197
Default Re: Polishing a Vintage Caravan

A detailing mate helped me tidy up the Bullbar on my old XG and said that before any polishing it needs to be acid washed..............Possibly because otherwise you're only trying to polish dirt?

We used a product that's now almost impossible to get called 'HIPO', but California Custom's 'Original Purple Metal Polish' does almost as good a job.

I had to do the Ute bars by hand but as your Van is mostly flat it shouldn't be as difficult.

The Original.



After Acid Wash



After Polish

__________________
Dying at your job is natures way of saying that you're in the wrong line of work.
GasoLane is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
5 users like this post:
Old 24-05-2020, 08:34 PM   #18
Warrenk
Regular Member
 
Warrenk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 457
Default Re: Polishing a Vintage Caravan

The polishing is moving along. Finished both sides, now ready to start on the rear. First of all was to polish the rear part of the roof. Being flat and stainless steel it is a bit more easy to polish and the shine, while not perfect, is acceptable. The best part of stainless steel is it will hold its shine for a long time.



__________________
Never argue with an idiot, they will bring you down to their level and beat with experience every time.
Warrenk is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
8 users like this post:
Old 24-05-2020, 09:17 PM   #19
Tonz
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Pt Lincoln far side South Oz
Posts: 5,859
Default Re: Polishing a Vintage Caravan

dressed like that bet your glad its not summer weather. Impressed with your progress.

In my younger days I had a paid job bring 'vans from Hamilton to Christchurch every weekend. Great life fly up with car salesman dad on Thurs morning to Auck, grab the morn paper tick off interested cars, by Frid lunch he would have purchased 3-8 cars, then Id ph my mates...all balitile handsets in those days. and Friday 8pm would have a team of drivers in Auck airport all ready to drive to Hamilton.
Sat morning pick up 3-4 caravans (new) drive to Wellington, change the rego plates back to 'borrowed' plates rather than trade plates (cheaper rates on ferry) first crossing Sunday morn all on board to Picton, stop change back to trade plates and husstle back to Christchurch.
Most of my mates never got and money but wide variety of cars European & English. Have always loved the old 'vans except when on our roads farrting along at 70-80 kph.
__________________
Dont p i s s off older people. At our age the term Life in Prison is not a deterrent
Tonz is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 25-05-2020, 08:45 AM   #20
Warrenk
Regular Member
 
Warrenk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 457
Default Re: Polishing a Vintage Caravan

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tonz View Post
dressed like that bet your glad its not summer weather. Impressed with your progress.
That is why it is getting done now. Summer was never going to be an option.
__________________
Never argue with an idiot, they will bring you down to their level and beat with experience every time.
Warrenk is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 26-07-2020, 07:28 PM   #21
Warrenk
Regular Member
 
Warrenk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 457
Default Re: Polishing a Vintage Caravan

Had a break for a month or so while we toured around western Qld while the borders were still closed. Took it out on the weekend to a vintage caravan outing where the caravan got rained on for the first time in over 20 years, and no leaks. Getting close now, just have to polish the hatch and finish polishing the front window stone guard and the bulk of the work is done, just a couple of spots to touch up.

,
__________________
Never argue with an idiot, they will bring you down to their level and beat with experience every time.
Warrenk is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
5 users like this post:
Old 26-07-2020, 08:42 PM   #22
Tonz
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Pt Lincoln far side South Oz
Posts: 5,859
Default Re: Polishing a Vintage Caravan

about time you showed up again, I love that 'van, not that model My Dad sold Clipper caravans in NZ
We lived in CHCH and every month he would fly up to Auckland on a Thursday morning, buy a number of cars, let me know how many he had and who he wanted as drivers. Id ring my cobbers friday lunchtime, by 6pm at airport fly to Auckland, pick our 'car' to drive down to Hamilton.
Sat morning hook up 3 or 4 caravans, the trundle down to Wellington. Take the trade plate off the 'vans onto the ferry (last sail Saturday) arrive in Picton put trade plates back on and Sunday drive back to CHCH.

You are bringing back so many good memories.
__________________
Dont p i s s off older people. At our age the term Life in Prison is not a deterrent
Tonz is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Reply


Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 11:32 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL