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Starter Motor
Join Date: Jun 2020
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Hi everyone,
I bought a car off a young fella couple of months ago to get to work and teach my kids to drive stick. Its very loud and obnoxious looking, has round headlights, perfect for humiliating my holden loving father. Its an 02 AUII XR6 VCT Man, Has 212k, apparently only runs on 98. But what is it? Some guy offered me a lot of cash for it at my local Woolies, even offered a trade on his 4x4. Where I live is 4x4 country & Holden Utes so finding someone whose into 6's, let alone ford 6's is rare, my millennial kids can't find any help for me. Youtube has a lot of boosted vids etc which is cool. If you need me to take pics to upload that's fine. If this car is decent and worth the time, I will put money into it, i'll learn everything about it, I'm disabled now from work injury so I have time and can get the resources, etc. The person who did the roadworthy said it's a very solid clean car for its age, I also asked if anything was to sht itself next he said nothing comes to mind from what he observed. So yeah come at me with everything please. |
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DIY Tragic
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Sydney, more than not. I hate it.
Posts: 21,865
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Sedan or ute? I drive an AU2 XR6 manual ute most days. This at least qualifies me to have strong opinions, even if they’re wrong.
![]() Oil leaks in the six are my pet hate. It’s the only part which has nearly broken me with the incessant question posed as “Where from now?”. This week it’s the twenty year old oil pressure switch leaking. On the manual, the rubbish soft alloy gearbox nose, and piteous excuse for a clutch pedal assembly that will confound you. Some AUs really rust. Some almost don’t. None have a pollen filter, so your AC will be full of decomposed leaf matter. If it is not rusty, you can maintain it with prompt topical repairs. They come apart easily. I find the AU ute more engaging to drive than my BA ute, which makes me dozy when driving. This may also be partly due to its exhaust leak. |
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Ballarat
Posts: 2,123
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Its a good car, not the flagship of the au lineup, but not far from the top.
VCT donk is great, reliable, plenty of power stock to lose your license/bend it around a power pole. Lots of people say they're heavier on fuel than the hp 6cyl in series 1, I've had both, its negligible if anything. Only problems you'll have will be electric window switches, roof lining sagging and rust. As for mods, keep it tame so you dont break the gearbox, basic bolt ons and a tune will get you an honest 150~rwkw which in a car as light and nimble as the au xr6 is enough to have fun with. And to sort of answer your question, if you were in the market for a 6 cylinder falcon, from 1998-2002, money no object, the only one better than yours was the xr6 st. If you want specific info, check out the au sub forums. |
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Bellbird park
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Couple of things, vct and hp engine was across all three series, hp is base model xr, vct is just higher spec and also means irs if sedan. As for light and nimble, An irs equipped falcon weighs almost as much as a ba. They’re no featherweight. Great car if it’s been looked after, can be an ongoing money pit if it’s been neglected or you have to pay someone to do everything. Also being a 2002 it should be a series III shouldn’t it? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Canberra Region
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Will run fine on 91.
Even my Xr8 Sprint doesn't need 98.
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Starter Motor
Join Date: Jun 2020
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Not sure on series III. The kid I bought it off called it a stage II and the guy that wanted to buy it from me called it a series II. Is there a plate on this car that can give me more info? |
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Starter Motor
Join Date: Jun 2020
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There are no leaks yet after a couple months of learner driving in it. The clutch gets tired after a long day driving around town. The starter motor is now becoming an issue but these are all minor things. |
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Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Onsite Eastcoast
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If you already own the car and think it looks and drives well, have had a mechanic look it over and likes what he sees, keep it for now.
There are a lot of AU followers floating around here so there will always be plenty of help f and advice regarding this model Ford. and Welcome.
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DIY Tragic
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Sydney, more than not. I hate it.
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Left side of the motor is smartest to take a labour hit (or time hit if DIY) on, and do all age/mileage fixes on at once.
1. Starter 2. Oil pressure switch 3. Coil/leads 4. Motor mount 5. Intake manifold gasket |
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Starter Motor
Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 8
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I ran the car for a week on 91 and it was terrible.
Since then if you give it a squirt when cornering sharply it stops for a moment then comes back to life and the top of the engine now sounds really tick tacky. |
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Starter Motor
Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 8
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Hi everyone,
I've brought this same question from another thread in these forums. I bought a car off a young fella couple of months ago to get to work and teach my kids to drive stick. Its very loud and obnoxious looking, has round headlights, perfect for humiliating my holden loving father. Its an 02 AUII XR6 VCT Man, Has 212k, apparently only runs on 98. But what is it? Some guy offered me a lot of cash for it at my local Woolies, even offered a trade on his 4x4. Where I live is 4x4 country & Holden Utes so finding someone whose into 6's, let alone ford 6's is rare, my millennial kids can't find any help for me. Youtube has a lot of boosted vids etc which is cool. If you need me to take pics to upload that's fine. If this car is decent and worth the time, I will put money into it, i'll learn everything about it, I'm disabled now from work injury so I have time and can get the resources, etc. The person who did the roadworthy said it's a very solid clean car for its age, I also asked if anything was to fail next he said nothing comes to mind from what he observed. So yeah come at me with questions on everything please. |
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Join Date: Sep 2012
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The car probably has been modified, with a tune that requires 98. From factory it did not need to be on 98.
What is stage 2?? Camshaft? turbo?? Post photos of the outside, inside, and the engine for a better understanding of what you have. There's an ID plate under the bonnet, passenger side near the windscreen. It will tell you the build date (month/year) and if it's AUII or AUIII. Curious, what was "a lot of cash" that was offered exactly? |
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DIY Tragic
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Sydney, more than not. I hate it.
Posts: 21,865
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I’d say that could be oil pressure, either low or a faulty switch.
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Location: Bibra Lake WA
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Threads merged and moved to a more appropriate area for advice.
Please don't create multiple threads. It creates confusion. If you are having trouble deciding which area to post in, please contact a mod to help you. |
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Starter Motor
Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 8
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Here are some images and videos.
Appologies its an 01. I got in contact with the kid I bought it from again and he said he calls it a stage 2 as the owner before him was a mechanic that rebuilt the motor and that's what he called it, a stage 2. So take that with a grain of salt. The guy at woolies carpark offered me 10k cash or his 06 Navara, I got his number still. Last edited by SteelMagnum01; 13-09-2020 at 07:31 PM. Reason: photos and links didn't work |
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Location: Checking out soft furnishings....
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Mate, i'm yet to hear of anyone getting 10k for an XR6 in that condition. There is value in these cars in top condition, especially XR8's. If you want to keep it then go for it, but 10k is a crazy amount of money for an XR6 in that condition. Im wondering if the guy who offered you money thought it was an XR8. That car is simply a S2 XR6, it's certainly not rare, yet..........
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Is there no coolant in the reservoir? It looks clean but doesn't look like there's any coolant in it.
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Perth, Northern Suburbs
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The good news is that your car is exactly what it appears to be:
Build Date: 16.08.2001 Vehicle Line: Falcon Body Style: 4 Door Saloon Version: XR Engine: 4.0L Sohc EFI(VCT) Transmission: 5 Speed Manual Transmission (T5) Drive: RHD RWD Emission: Australian Design Requirements Air Conditioning: Manual Air Conditioning Territory: (+)"AUS" Paint: Narooma Blue Broad Meadows (Australia) With Driver Air Bag With Passenger Air Bag 7 X 16" Alloy Wheels Rear Axle Limited Slip Differential 4 Wheel Anti-Lock Braking System For Unleaded Fuel With Speed Control
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Join Date: Sep 2012
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Ok, I've just spotted what makes this car special, and worth quite a bit.
Can you check the dash for any extra buttons? Maybe some extra bracketry on the body panels? I think it's one of those Transformer cars. If so, then don't sell it at any cost. Ultra rare vehicle you have there. ![]() |
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Perth, Northern Suburbs
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Value is often dependent on location.
Older Falcons are becoming increasingly desirable, and if you want to keep an AU, then a manual XR6 with VCT is not a bad one. Personally I would always opt for the XR8, but the 6's have their followers.
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Starter Motor
Join Date: Jun 2020
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I contacted the guy that offered me and he will be coming by in 3 weeks to see me again, fifo miner.
He told me he knew the guy from Moranbah who owned it prior to the kid I bought it off and what he did to it so I understand why he made such an offer. It explains all the extra holes and wires all over the place in the car. Kind of disappointed, I think I would have enjoyed rebuilding this car. The guy that wants it said to drive it like a race car and holy wtf this thing flies. |
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