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20-09-2020, 09:19 PM | #61 | |||
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The Turbo version 3B21T motor has a starter and alternator, and does not come with the stop start function at all. The later W453 has the Mercedes M281, Nissan / Renault supplied motor, no generator starter like the W451, they are quite reliable they have the start stop though, you can also put a reverse pulse board to disable the start stop in them which is good. Also have the W450 that does not come with the start stop feature thank god, but had the Mercedes M160 turbo motor thats only good for 120,000 ks then its rebuild time . Its beyond me why they thought it was a good idea to put start stop in a car that weighs 750kg that is so fuel efficient already, I doubt if the emission savings would be enough to warrant the option, then to top it of use a system with the alternator starting the car with the serpentine belt? |
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There is a special category of "Stop Start" batteries. What the difference is, I have no idea. I imagine they're designed for a slightly deeper cycle??
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Fuel or Air? Starting Big Diesels with compressed air used to be reasonably common
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Starting diesels with compressed air? I've seen a model of tractor that starts with a shot gun shell. Guess which country lol. Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk
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21-09-2020, 09:34 AM | #67 | |||
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As Stop-Start places extra demand on components you need specific, powerful batteries and more robust starters and engine mounts. For Mazda specifically , their advertising material conveniently skips the use of starter motor but if you read description which i quoted in previous post it clearly mentions that starter motor is used. Their illustration also shows it being activated. I am quoting Mazda about Mazda product and you are quoting Bestride ? Wonder who knows Mazdas better ? From Mazda : fuel is injected into the cylinder and the start motor applies a small amount of torque to the crankshaft, all of which makes for a more refined and quicker start |
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Another cost to stop start systems is what traffic engineers call greenwaste.
If you come up to a red light behind say 5 cars equipped with stop start frequently you will not get through the green as the extra 8 seconds delay combined plus the one or two looking at their phone. There is no fuel saving as 3 vehicles miss the green light and are traffic delayed. I had an LZ Focus with stop start till recently. At 4.5 years I fitted a new battery. It had stop start but i turned it off each trip. The battery supplier most stop start cars need a new battery every 2/2.5 years. |
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Our Mazda is still on its original battery at 4 years old with stop start always left on.
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I drove a Mack with one, it's ok so long as it starts first go. After three tries you need to find another Truck to refill your air tank
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