New 60km/h speed limits in NSW forest roads!! was 100.

[Jim Goose]

Originally Posted by GREGL

Do these penaltys apply to a QLD driver ? I ask this as we holiday in N.S.W and the idiots on the pacific hwy are shockers , 80-90 on single lane ,110 on the overtaking lanes EVERY TIME . Big line of traffic built up and you reach a overtaking lane and everyones trying to pass a idiot at slightly above the limit .
So if I get pinged for doing say 131 to pass this particular person do these penalties apply?

Ummm... no because your a qlder your allowed to speed.....

[Keepleft]

Issue is progressing.

NSW Police Force advise they can, and do - enforce the DPI's state forest 60km/h limit, and like I, are aware of the issue regarding ceasing of this limit at park exit points.

Police view is DPI are within their rights to post a limit they see fit, as property administrators. They remind that speed-limits no longer need be gazetted in parliament.

Some inter agency conflict here, and I am involving each, and will be discussing the matter with DPI's roads fella Friday. Then ministers.

Odds on, that our NSW Premier will need to remind government agencies just who it is that sets enforceable law.

[Professor Farnsworth]

Originally Posted by Keepleft

Odds on, that our NSW Premier will need to remind government agencies just who it is that sets enforceable law.

and in relation to my last post on page #1? Is 130KM/h being considered country-wide for freeways?

[Keepleft]

Originally Posted by Professor Farnsworth

and in relation to my last post on page #1? Is 130KM/h being considered country-wide for freeways?

http://www.monash.edu.au/miri/resear...ts/atsb216.pdf
This is the ATSB's study into all that. Progress is slow, as the nations candidate roads are to be bought up to standard, and vehicle stuff etc.

My median located U-Turn bay stuff relates to all that. We need time, money and political love:-)

[Professor Farnsworth]

interesting reading, thanks

[djst1]

Australia is racing to the top of the tree as being one of the most regulated and nannied countrys in the World.

[EDManual]

Keepleft, thanks for looking into this. You are right, there are no "end 60" signs, and the sign entering the 60 zone does say "60 area".
Shouldnt these 60 signs be yellow advisorys? That would be much better, then if you look like you are driving dangerously, you could still be pinged if needed by the cops.

I hate all the nannying, then extreme penalties for doing what we always have normally done, just for the lowest common denominator.

You will find in other countries where there is less nannying, many drivers will stop driving if their skills arent up to scratch. Would be a great thing if we actually needed some "skill" here in australia by using higher speeds. I think then we would see many many older and not so talented drivers off the roads as they wouldnt want to drive in such place. Look at Germany and France, just been there the other month, you will find not that many oldies on the road at all! They know they dont have the skills.

[GREGL]

Originally Posted by Jim Goose

Ummm... no because your a qlder your allowed to speed.....

I wish , perhaps i should rephrase the question. Do the points and automatic suspension apply to interstate drivers? A long time ago if you were caught you paid the fine and there was no points lost on your interstate licence.Has this changed is what i'm asking. Appreciate the smart a.. reply though.

[ltd_on20s]

obviously, drivers from all forums should pool their money and hire AIJAC to lobby on our behalf. they seem to know how to lobby government officials.

just sayin....

[EDManual]

This particlular Road is called Brindabella Road, seems to be in the Yass Valley council. It is to the west of Canberra.

[Keepleft]

Originally Posted by ltd_on20s

obviously, drivers from all forums should pool their money and hire AIJAC to lobby on our behalf. they seem to know how to lobby government officials.

just sayin....

AIJAC?

Originally Posted by EDManual

This particlular Road is called Brindabella Road, seems to be in the Yass Valley council. It is to the west of Canberra.

The "60 AREA" signs are cataloged R4-10,s. My local state forest are using R4-1,s - which are the regular speed limit signs. Seems DPI folk are using a mixture of signs, but of course are not ceasing their speed limit at exit points as required.

DPI head advises they have imposed the 60km/h speed limit on safety grounds, with the exception of some sealed roads which carry higher speed limits. Gentleman is adamant they won't budge on this.

He advises they have installed the 60km/h speed limit on the basis of the NSW "Forestry Act No 55" under "Section 41 regulations".

RTA concede at this point they cannot force a change, as they can with say a Council imposed limit. (Councils 'exist' because of an Act of State Parliament, and this aspect should NEVER change).

I have had RTA organize to notify DPI to install END 60 speed signs, or speed signs that reflect the posted inbound limit beyond the state park gate, as is their responsibility.

Issue progresses; the only chance beyond this, if it gets to that, is to involve your local MP by way of complaint. Going to put feelers out today about this.

[ltd_on20s]

Originally Posted by Keepleft

AIJAC?

Australia/Israel & Jewish Affairs Council.

just an example of a lobby group that gets stuff done, and has fingers in many pies.

i don't really care who the lobby group is.

[EDManual]

Just drove down the Brindabella road again from Tumut to Canberra, still no "End 60 " Signs...

[MarkAW]

Seriously, you resurrected a decade old thread??

[Mechan1k]

Originally Posted by MarkAW

Seriously, you resurrected a decade old thread??

Have seen longer thread mines that that ..... but this is still a good one.

Was actually half expect more tyraid stating it is now 40km/h