Top 10 Experimental Australian engines / abandoned programs - Page 2

oldel · 21-01-2021, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Terry

BMW's version of VCT...was just a crappy design.

Dr Terry

Yeah that was my point. Unless you're assuming I know nothing about variable valve timing technology how could you read it any other way?
I know what it is and I said what ford did was better than BMWs "vanos" system (E: along with better timing chains and guides and not using HPFP) That's the high pressure fuel pump in case you didn't know (I'm kidding) - also a common headache for modern BMW owners.

5thFordWA · 22-01-2021, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dingo

The Sarich Orbital engine, did Ford put this engine in a WB Festiva at one stage for testing I recall there may have been 30 prototypes.........

I recall similar memories of the Festiva with Orbital.

But for the benefit of anyone interested, to my knowledge there was never a genuine road car development program with the original "orbital" Orbital engine. They put it in the "too hard basket" after a few years, and went on to develop reciprocating engine designs incorporating their clever fuel injection and emission control systems they had designed in conjunction with the original "orbital" engine, retaining the Orbital company name.

Note from the article referred to in post#1 of this thread - "Perhaps the most interesting application of this was the aXcess Australia concept of 1998. It featured a 2.0-litre, supercharged Orbital two-stroke inline-six with 120kW and 250Nm."

I found it to be a bit misleading, personally, but they made lots of money.
Cheers.

oldel · 22-01-2021, 07:27 PM

Yeah the kia/festiva used some inlet/injection technology (which apparently was very good and could clean up a 2 stroke piston engine), but did not use the "orbital" engine at all.

Sarich did make a lot of money off it, put it into real estate and made a hell of a lot more.

Sprintey · 23-01-2021, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by XR Martin

There was a photo in Wheels of a prototype EF with a DOHC I6, I think they said Jaguar had a hand in developing it.
I'd love to know more about it.

Tickford Engineering in the UK had a fair bit to do with the XR6 motor, from memory, they said the Ford 6 was very efficient for what it was. It's something people mention a lot about the Barra.

.:4:. · 23-01-2021, 02:58 PM

Does anyone remember the turbo awd xf falcon from the 80's? 1 of 1. It got written off during testing in the snow in the uk and the program got scrapped. Dunno if it was a ford project or after market like the dick Johnson turbo grand prix. And that was not awd.

Sprintey · 23-01-2021, 03:08 PM

Yep sure do. There's a review of it right at the end of the Marque publishing book "Falcon XD-XF"

Well ahead of its time. Territory petrol AWD similar?

There's also a XF Baja Ute that was displayed at the motor museum at Bathurst, think that was a 351 with AWD. That ute is an absolute beast.

oldel · 23-01-2021, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Sprintey

Yep sure do. There's a review of it right at the end of the Marque publishing book "Falcon XD-XF"

Well ahead of its time. Territory petrol AWD similar?

There's also a XF Baja Ute that was displayed at the motor museum at Bathurst, think that was a 351 with AWD. That ute is an absolute beast.

Woah. If I've heard about the baja ute before I've long since forgotten about it. Really cool.

Also I've found a new favourite website/blog, "80s hero". Lots of cool old cars there.
http://80shero.blogspot.com/2019/02/xf-yeah.html

dick sticks with dunlop LOL http://80shero.blogspot.com/2016/

Sprintey · 23-01-2021, 05:28 PM

Here you go oldel, check this out:

https://80shero.blogspot.com/2019/02/xf-yeah.html

Edit, I just saw you posted it. How's the engineering? On our visit it was a highlight, the young one and I spent a fair bit of time staring underneath the ute. I can't remember if it was AWD or 2wd to be honest. The website there says 2wd...

Question: have any of you converted your RTV utes into AWD?