The next COVID tax.... freight costs!

Interceptor · 20-01-2022, 03:38 PM

So.... Got a rude shock today, needing to get a few things freighted from victoria to queensland, same kinda stuff I have travelling back and forth regularly.... freight quotes that were $200-$250 are now $500-$700!

T3rminator · 20-01-2022, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Interceptor

So.... Got a rude shock today, needing to get a few things freighted from victoria to queensland, same kinda stuff I have travelling back and forth regularly.... freight quotes that were $200-$250 are now $500-$700!

Is that being charged to you as a supplier / retailer or a consumer?!?!?!

I have been expecting delivery charges to increase as a consumer, so far haven't noticed it with goods coming within the country. However I ordered something from the US the other week. The same thing 18 months ago cost $120 delivered here, this time $170 delivered here. I think it was delivery fees that increased. No delays though!

roKWiz · 20-01-2022, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Interceptor

So.... Got a rude shock today, needing to get a few things freighted from victoria to queensland, same kinda stuff I have travelling back and forth regularly.... freight quotes that were $200-$250 are now $500-$700!

Yep, everyone else is cashing in on it so why not truckies.
I will only use owner drivers so aleast the money gets in their pocket.
Have you seen he price of 20ft shipping containers lately. Bought some around the $1500 (seaworthy) delivered mark a couple of yeas back, now they want $5000 and up non GST no delivery.

Itsme · 20-01-2022, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by roKWiz

Yep, everyone else is cashing in on it so why not truckies.
I will only use owner drivers so aleast the money gets in their pocket.
Have you seen he price of 20ft shipping containers lately. Bought some around the $1500 (seaworthy) delivered mark a couple of yeas back, now they want $5000 and up non GST no delivery.

Containers have been in short supply since Covid started but for transport costs to skyrocket with general interstate freight trucks is price gouging since a lot of drivers are still scratching around for work or was up to a couple of weeks ago.

roKWiz · 20-01-2022, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Itsme

Containers have been in short supply since Covid started but for transport costs to skyrocket with general interstate freight trucks is price gouging since a lot of drivers are still scratching around for work or was up to a couple of weeks ago.

The secondhand container market in short supply is crap. They have been using that excuse since long before covid.
I'm all for truckies finally getting what they require and not ripped off by large freight companies.

Franco Cozzo · 20-01-2022, 04:11 PM

It's clown world at the moment in Melbourne, I went three days with no freight pickups due to COVID isolation effecting the freight company.

They weren't even answering their phones or responding to emails.

Drivers out at 4PM still making deliveries, haven't even started pickups.

I think we're still paying $180+ GST + fuel levy for pallets from Melbourne to Sydney, can't get it picked up though

kevino · 20-01-2022, 04:21 PM

$180 for a single pallet?

If so it s time for me to get along to xyz truck hire and hire a truck to service your requirements.

Franco Cozzo · 20-01-2022, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kevino

$180 for a single pallet?

If so it s time for me to get along to xyz truck hire and hire a truck to service your requirements.

I'm open to better freight offers if you know any

Startrack is $230 Inc all hidden charges for pallet at 500kg Melbourne to Sydney.

roKWiz · 20-01-2022, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kevino

$180 for a single pallet?

If so it s time for me to get along to xyz truck hire and hire a truck to service your requirements.

The truck hire just went up.
The regoed secondhand truck market is almost non existent unless you don't mind paying silly prices.

Syndrome · 20-01-2022, 05:38 PM

We are paying four times more than what we paid two years ago for shipping containers!

Interceptor · 20-01-2022, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by T3rminator

Is that being charged to you as a supplier / retailer or a consumer?!?!?!

Thats what both TNT and TOLL are quoting me as a retailer, even with supposed account discounts

kevino · 21-01-2022, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

I'm open to better freight offers if you know any

Startrack is $230 Inc all hidden charges for pallet at 500kg Melbourne to Sydney.

Are you just shipping one pallet at a time or multiple pallets.
?
Have you tried Camerons?

hayseed · 21-01-2022, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Startrack is $230 Inc all hidden charges for pallet at 500kg Melbourne to Sydney.

Pretty sure that Startrack (& auspost) use Br'er Fox for their Linehaul Work & they do their own P.U.D. Work at either end..

kevino · 21-01-2022, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by hayseed

Pretty sure that Startrack (& auspost) use Br'er Fox for their Linehaul Work & they do their own P.U.D. Work at either end..

StarTrack/AusPost use a number of subcontractors including you are passing another fox.
But the majority of their linehaul work is through their own company owned company driver fleet.
They utilise a lot of Qantas capacity too.

tbro4123 · 21-01-2022, 09:31 PM

Certainly not sticking up for the big players, but fuel pricing has increased running cost over $10,000 a month just for our old QLD operations.

We can't do anything about it as we are a QLD government contract and yes we do recover our cost 120 days after we sent in our invoicing, so for 4 months I have to wear that increase with no way to increase revenue.

The cost of diesel is getting out of hand with the oil companies making unseen profits from both petrol and diesel.

Always remember my dad telling me that it's easy to make a small fortune outa transport industry, Yep start with a large fortune.

Thankfully not long now and we will be totally out of the Australian transport industry.

Stay safe
Terry aka Tbro

Franco Cozzo · 21-01-2022, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kevino

Are you just shipping one pallet at a time or multiple pallets.
?
Have you tried Camerons?

Generally one pallet at a time - branch replenishments, or multiple pallets going to different locations,

We're mostly individual cartons

hayseed · 21-01-2022, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tbro4123

Certainly not sticking up for the big players, but fuel pricing has increased running cost over $10,000 a month just for our old QLD operations.

We can't do anything about it as we are a QLD government contract and yes we do recover our cost 120 days after we sent in our invoicing, so for 4 months I have to wear that increase with no way to increase revenue.

The cost of diesel is getting out of hand with the oil companies making unseen profits from both petrol and diesel.

Always remember my dad telling me that it's easy to make a small fortune outa transport industry, Yep start with a large fortune.

Thankfully not long now and we will be totally out of the Australian transport industry.

Stay safe
Terry aka Tbro

Don't you have a Fuel levy Surcharge in Place..???
I've had one for 15-16 yrs..

kevino · 22-01-2022, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by tbro4123

Certainly not sticking up for the big players, but fuel pricing has increased running cost over $10,000 a month just for our old QLD operations.

We can't do anything about it as we are a QLD government contract and yes we do recover our cost 120 days after we sent in our invoicing, so for 4 months I have to wear that increase with no way to increase revenue.

The cost of diesel is getting out of hand with the oil companies making unseen profits from both petrol and diesel.

Always remember my dad telling me that it's easy to make a small fortune outa transport industry, Yep start with a large fortune.

Thankfully not long now and we will be totally out of the Australian transport industry.

Stay safe
Terry aka Tbro

Yes good decision.

Niche markets are where you can make money but hard to find.

A fair few large regional operators just selling their fleets and closing up.

Toll loses money.

Fox made bugger all last year in Aus would have been better to just place a few bets at the horse races.

If Fox and Toll struggle and they buy their trucks at massive discounts because of the large number they buy and the same two coy s use massive amounts of small fleet and owner drivers at slave labour cost......how can anyone make money out of transport?

Even Uber a clip the ticket operator using churn labour supplying their own vehicles loses money.

tbro4123 · 23-01-2022, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by hayseed

Don't you have a Fuel levy Surcharge in Place..???
I've had one for 15-16 yrs..

The fuel surcharge is all part of the 5 year contract.

In fact everything is governed by the contract including our profit margin.

It was a good earner on previously contracts but things change, governments don't want the family companies anymore preferring overseas companies over Aussie concerns.

We're just part in a big cog but it's now time to get out while the going is good (sort of) and we have a company that wants to expand even though there is no promise of the contract being renewed. So the buses have gone and the fuel tanker side is just about done.

And while of think of it have a look at how much Ad-blue has gone up.

Stay safe
Terry aka Tbro

RANGEREST · 23-01-2022, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by tbro4123

The fuel surcharge is all part of the 5 year contract.
In fact everything is governed by the contract including our profit margin.
It was a good earner on previously contracts but things change, governments don't want the family companies anymore preferring overseas companies over Aussie concerns.
We're just part in a big cog but it's now time to get out while the going is good (sort of) and we have a company that wants to expand even though there is no promise of the contract being renewed. So the buses have gone and the fuel tanker side is just about done.
And while of think of it have a look at how much Ad-blue has gone up.
Stay safe
Terry aka Tbro

So your fuel surcharge levy (something that changes almost daily) is under a 5yr contract?
That an oxymoron at best, and whoever put what's variable cost under a 5yr contract needs firing.