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Old 01-11-2022, 11:26 PM   #1
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Default Mystery Tool; What is It.

I rather speculatively brought this grab bag of mainly Litchfield tools on ebay; this lot https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/185614146935. OK; so perhaps I have a car tool fetish. But I do think I did OK . This Collet tool https://fordspecialtools.service-sol...search=204-158 is both likely to be useful to me and is seemingly somewhat expensive. I also got a lot of BTR/ION transmission service tools ( and mostly not ones I already had) and various Ford I6 engine tools. Also a few Mazda 3 transmission service tools (49 F401 366 and two of the support plates that go with it).

I also got every special tool you need to remove and install the valves on a Ford UA Corsair (the Ford rebadged Nissan Pintara; remembers them?). I'm not likely to ever see one of them again, let alone have to do a valve job on one, but I guess they are fairly generic valve removal and installation tools so the may find a use. There is only one tool I was not able to ID. This one in the attached picture. Anyone know what is is please? It appears clean and unused and has "Pg3" or perhaps it's "P93" crudely scratched on one side.
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Old 01-11-2022, 11:38 PM   #2
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You could have added something like a 50¢ coin in the photo to give an idea of size.
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Old 02-11-2022, 12:24 AM   #3
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A will post a new pic with something to show scale in due course. The blue handle suggests to me it might be something from the Laser Tools company.
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New picture with things to indicate relative size attached. Addendum: after looking through my son's Mazda 3 Workshop manual I found the Mazda 3 tools were steering service tools rather than transmission tools.
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Auty Ethyl's hip?
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Old 02-11-2022, 11:23 AM   #6
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It has, I think, a vague similarity to a BMW t Transmission, Steering and Fuel Line Disconnect Tool e.g. https://www.toolsource.com/fuel-line...-p-109620.html and https://shop.ktcautotools.com/produc...-series-and-x5

and especially https://www.harrisonmotorsports.com/...nect-tool.html

but I don't think the legs are tapered enough for it to be one.

And it's not the Laser Tool version of that BMW tool which is this https://www.lasertools.co.uk/product...t-Tool-for-BMW
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I asked on a US site I'm on, mainly automotive engineers who deal/work with manufactures and so far the best answer is a flat head/side valve spring compressor SST.


I'll report if any different suggestions come up.




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Old 02-11-2022, 11:57 AM   #8
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The handle is held on with one of these FKE (Taiwanese FWU KUANG) hex key socket screw fasteners marked "FKE 010.9" if that's any clue. There seems to be machinist bluing residue in the grooves that are on both legs on one side so perhaps it was a hand made tool.
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I asked on a US site I'm on, mainly automotive engineers who deal/work with manufactures and so far the best answer is a flat head/side valve spring compressor SST.
Similar to this you mean from:



https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/22520933...Bk9SR_7fqeWGYQ

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But for that tool you would also expect the tips to be tapered too and the gap between the jaws to be adjustable.
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Similar to this you mean from:

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https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/22520933...Bk9SR_7fqeWGYQ

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But for that tool you would also expect the tips to be tapered too and the gap between the jaws to be adjustable.



I'm thinking more small motor, re Kohler, Briggs & Stratton.


It's too small for a real engine Ford or Dodge flathead that I've work on and they are usually like a ball joint splitter but with slightly curled up fork.






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Old 02-11-2022, 05:43 PM   #11
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It's too small for a real engine Ford or Dodge flathead that I've work on and they are usually like a ball joint splitter but with slightly curled up fork.
Actually the gap between the legs is wider than what any of the automotive valve removal tools I have (side valve or OHC) , so I would be surprised if that is what it was; and why the square profile notches cut into two of the legs?

One of these I wonder https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hlqst5pEaQs
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Old 02-11-2022, 06:32 PM   #12
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..but probably not as they don't have those square cut notches in their legs either.
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Old 02-11-2022, 07:40 PM   #13
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Some close up Macro detail in case it helps:

The partially stamped and etched number (looking more closely it wasn't just crudely scratched after all);
One of the two notches in two of the legs with what to me looks like remnants of machinist bluing; and
the screw that attaches the blue handle.

If it is AdBlue diesel exhaust fuel disconnect tool one could speculate that the P93 refers to Powerstroke 1993 but were those engines available in Australia in either Fords or International trucks given the debate about if they were even available in the USA in 1993 (e.g. https://www.powerstroke.org/threads/...erstroke.1624/) .
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Ya got me stumped, even went through the OTC SSTs and nothing so if it is an automotive tool it isn't made by or for Bosch.



Good luck and if I hear anything I'll come back to ya!






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You could have added something like a 50¢ coin in the photo to give an idea of size.
Sorry can't help, have never seen one of those before. Doesn't look like it has ever been used.

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Yes; looks unused.
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Might aircraft related?
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I wondered about some form of holder for a clutched rotating assembly.
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Old 05-11-2022, 01:55 AM   #19
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It has some similarity to this Ford T97P-7025-A 303-273 OTC Rotunda Gear Shifter Lever Aligner Alignment Tool https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/372460181962 and https://www.freedomracing.com/gear-l...-7025-a-u.html at least to the extent of having a round end slot on one side and a square ended slot on the other side.




But I don't think it's that either.

I have scrolled through all the several thousand or so specialty Ford tool listed here https://www.freedomracing.com/specia...ools.html?p=96 and here https://fordspecialtools.service-sol...s/Country.aspx without finding it either.
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its the mysterious wigwam for a gooses bridle.
that will prove your age.
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My local dealer has confirmed it's a go/no go gauge tool used to check the integrity of the weld join of the Ranger/Everest intermediate steering shaft weld. Made internally by Ford tool makers/engineers and distributed out only to dealers. See https://www.vehiclerecalls.gov.au/recalls/rec-000314

Another curio to go with my ex Ford prototype NB Fairlane that Ford say was meant to be scrapped rather than sold so I could buy it. Now I just need the Technical Service Bulletin that goes with it. Something like this one I expect: https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/201...0V296-2567.pdf


I wonder if it came from a closed dealership or was a dealership suffering hard times from the drop in service work due to the pandemic selling off all the special tools they didn't think they would use again.
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its the mysterious wigwam for a gooses bridle.
that will prove your age.
Haha..I was going to write something to this effect. "If you have a gooses bridle, you will recognise the wigwam." Well done, you beat me to it.
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