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Old 26-06-2023, 06:35 PM   #31
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This deal they've done in America to build the battery plants Is a step in the right direction , but there is so much money invested in developing battery tech you can't keep up with the leaders
Ford need to find a way to leap frog the masses with some tech unique to them , like Tesla have ......if they can't then they're going to be heading for a slippery slope like a lot of others especially the Japanese
Next Gen solid state batteries are expected to have four times the power density of current batteries,
that will be a watershed moment that sorts the men from the boys and cements Battery Electric future.
Today’s best Lithium Ion batteries will look like lead acid against solid state batteries, very exciting stuff.
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Old 27-06-2023, 07:42 AM   #32
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OH goody, lower cost cars.......

Perhaps the biggest drawback of all is cost. Solid-state batteries not only require higher densities of rare metals, but their construction technique is wholly different from that of today's lithium-ion cells
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Old 27-06-2023, 10:26 AM   #33
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It’s not about American unions, Farley and Ford are committed to widespread electrification as a way
of increasing profits and reducing their exposure to ever tightening emissions and fuel economy constraints.
You can tell that they want to control anything that can be profitable especially the Bronco and with it Ranger/Everest.



The next six years are not going to see much change with Ranger and Everest but suddenly Ford will offer hybrid and
BEV versions of both to match other brands and diesel Utes will practically disappear within a year or two (2030?)
Most of us can’t imagine that because it just doesn’t make sense today but will when batteries and charging are better.
I'm rehashing old decisions and probably sour grapes as well however when Ford dropped Crown Vic/Town car why didn't they leverage Falcon/LWB as a replacement, why not use Territory as the basis for Edge or Explorer.
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Old 27-06-2023, 01:22 PM   #34
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I'm rehashing old decisions and probably sour grapes as well however when Ford dropped Crown Vic/Town car why didn't they leverage Falcon/LWB as a replacement, why not use Territory as the basis for Edge or Explorer.
cause it was not created in the good ole u.s of mother flocking a ?
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Next Gen solid state batteries are expected to have four times the power density of current batteries,
that will be a watershed moment that sorts the men from the boys and cements Battery Electric future.
Today’s best Lithium Ion batteries will look like lead acid against solid state batteries, very exciting stuff.
Yes it's exciting times, Ford aren't the Lone Ranger there's a lot of companies in the race , with Ford saying not before 2030 that's a lot of water to flow under the bridge......the race is on
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Next Gen solid state batteries are expected to have four times the power density of current batteries,
that will be a watershed moment that sorts the men from the boys and cements Battery Electric future.
Today’s best Lithium Ion batteries will look like lead acid against solid state batteries, very exciting stuff.
Mate, they've been saying this about battery technology for so many years that it now means nothing. "Oh but guys, this new battery technology is coming, I'm telling you, and it's going to have way more power density, it will change the whole automotive industry for ever".

It's not going to be 4x the power density, that's just fairy tales. Until it happens, it's all bogus, the same has been said since over 20 years ago...
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Mate, they've been saying this about battery technology for so many years that it now means nothing.
South Korea have put their money where their mouth is, investing $15bn in the tech, aiming to be in production by 2030 and the world's first.
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