Is Big Brother Coming to Your car soon?

[aussiblue]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpgbygY6TKk
"Whistleblower Says "They Want To Stop You Driving Older Cars"

and https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion...ling-your-car/

Driving to dystopia: Whistleblower exposes coordinated plans for tracking and disabling your car
Linked to digital ID, the electric cars of the near future will be all but mandatory. An anonymous source from the German insurance industry claims that 'within the next 10 years, it will basically be impossible to insure old cars.'
Frank Wright

Fri Dec 15, 2023 - 11:51 am EST
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(LifeSiteNews) — A whistleblower from the German insurance industry has warned this month of an alarming trend – which may see all cars in the near future capable of being remotely disabled.

In a letter initially sent in response to a YouTube channel concerned about digital ID, the unnamed insider said: “I work in the IT department of a very large, renowned insurance company – headquartered in Germany. Unfortunately, what I tell my circle of friends and relatives about my projects, they dismiss as ‘conspiracy theory.'”

He continues with a warning of public ignorance over this significant factor in the increasing application of artificial intelligence in a rapidly developing technological world: “Many people don’t see or understand what will happen to us with this great digitalization revolution – especially the possible dangers or misuse.”
The whistleblower documents a number of “pilot projects” that he is working on in “the IT department of a very large, renowned insurance company quartered in Germany.”


So what is planned for the future of motoring? The pilot projects referenced in the letter clearly demonstrate the dangers of the advancing digitalization of private life.

Linked to digital ID, the electric cars of the near future will be all but mandatory, as the anonymous source claims that “within the next 10 years, it will basically be impossible to insure old cars.”

With drivers compelled to switch to digitally-enabled electric vehicles, this means their data will be used to calculate insurance premiums in real time.

According to the source, this data will include location tracking, healthy or unhealthy eating patterns in the driver’s locale, individual driving style, and will involve the monitoring of a built-in breathalyzer. The car will be remotely disabled if alcohol is detected, it is claimed, even if the driver’s alcohol level is below the legal limit.

Shockingly, the anonymous source also claims that “politically exposed” persons may see any vehicle they use remotely disabled. Speaking of a project scheduled for 2025, his letter notes a “cooperation” between the insurance giant he works for and “the Federal Ministry of Defense and National Security.”

The source goes on to say that “if a vehicle is registered to a politically exposed person and there is a suspected case, this person will no longer be able to start their vehicle (it will be deactivated via remote monitoring).”

This will not be restricted to the affected person’s own car, he says. “This applies to all private vehicles in which the politically exposed person sits (except officially registered ones, e.g. police cars).”
Claims checked out

The claims of this letter are astonishing, and first began to circulate following their appearance on the Survival Lilly YouTube channel. A dedicated “prepper,” the eponymous Lilly read out the letter in its entirety on November 25th.

Following its circulation on the internet, a U.K. car enthusiast decided to test the explosive claims made in the letter. What he found confirmed that car manufacturers, insurers, and bodies such as the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) are indeed working to realize this dystopian future.

(LifeSiteNews) — A whistleblower from the German insurance industry has warned this month of an alarming trend – which may see all cars in the near future capable of being remotely disabled.

In a letter initially sent in response to a YouTube channel concerned about digital ID, the unnamed insider said: “I work in the IT department of a very large, renowned insurance company – headquartered in Germany. Unfortunately, what I tell my circle of friends and relatives about my projects, they dismiss as ‘conspiracy theory.'”

He continues with a warning of public ignorance over this significant factor in the increasing application of artificial intelligence in a rapidly developing technological world: “Many people don’t see or understand what will happen to us with this great digitalization revolution – especially the possible dangers or misuse.”

The whistleblower documents a number of “pilot projects” that he is working on in “the IT department of a very large, renowned insurance company quartered in Germany.”

So what is planned for the future of motoring? The pilot projects referenced in the letter clearly demonstrate the dangers of the advancing digitalization of private life.

Linked to digital ID, the electric cars of the near future will be all but mandatory, as the anonymous source claims that “within the next 10 years, it will basically be impossible to insure old cars.”

With drivers compelled to switch to digitally-enabled electric vehicles, this means their data will be used to calculate insurance premiums in real time.

According to the source, this data will include location tracking, healthy or unhealthy eating patterns in the driver’s locale, individual driving style, and will involve the monitoring of a built-in breathalyzer. The car will be remotely disabled if alcohol is detected, it is claimed, even if the driver’s alcohol level is below the legal limit.

Shockingly, the anonymous source also claims that “politically exposed” persons may see any vehicle they use remotely disabled. Speaking of a project scheduled for 2025, his letter notes a “cooperation” between the insurance giant he works for and “the Federal Ministry of Defense and National Security.”

The source goes on to say that “if a vehicle is registered to a politically exposed person and there is a suspected case, this person will no longer be able to start their vehicle (it will be deactivated via remote monitoring).”

This will not be restricted to the affected person’s own car, he says. “This applies to all private vehicles in which the politically exposed person sits (except officially registered ones, e.g. police cars).”

Claims checked out

The claims of this letter are astonishing, and first began to circulate following their appearance on the Survival Lilly YouTube channel. A dedicated “prepper,” the eponymous Lilly read out the letter in its entirety on November 25th.

Following its circulation on the internet, a U.K. car enthusiast decided to test the explosive claims made in the letter. What he found confirmed that car manufacturers, insurers, and bodies such as the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) are indeed working to realize this dystopian future.


On his own YouTube channel, Number27, British classic car enthusiast Jack Pegoraro addressed every point made in the anonymous letter. He began with the planned integration of breathalyzers into all electronic cars, saying “I’ve done a little bit of research because I thought that sounds ridiculous.”

His incredulity was corrected by the discovery that such measures were already underway. He began by citing a 2021 article from USA Today, titled “Automakers must install technology in new cars to combat drunk driving.”

The article showed how the U.S. Congress passed a law to mandate the installation of this technology in the next two years: “Under the legislation, monitoring systems to stop intoxicated drivers would roll out in all new vehicles as early as 2026, after the Transportation Department assesses the best form of technology to install in millions of vehicles and automakers are given time to comply.”

So went on to cite sources for every one of the whistleblower’s claims. He referenced an article from the U.K. motoring organization RAC, which in 2019 reported that similar measures had been mandated by the European Union.

The only difference? That new cars must have the capacity to contain breathalyzers by 2022. The same year was also the deadline for the installation of mandatory speed limiters in every new car in the U.K. and in Europe – a measure also demanded by the NTSB in the United States last month.
A disturbing data future

The source claimed that data would be collected on the driver’s shopping habits, using RFID location tracking to determine the relative healthiness of their diet. As the letter went on to note, digital integration between the vehicle and the owner’s digital identity will result in real-time monitoring of driving and other behaviors, including eating habits.

Artificial intelligence linkups with globalist Big Tech giants are also mentioned, with the nameless author noting that “our pilot projects with the connection to AI are particularly interesting – here in ongoing cooperation with Google and Microsoft.”

The scope of this partnership between remote authority and advancing technology is illustrated by a sobering reminder: “These cars are ‘online’ 24/7 and in real time in touch with the insurance and traffic authorities for remote surveillance and surveillance of the authorities and that’s no joke!”


Financial penalties will apply, he claims, if the data collected provides any justification: “Depending on your driving style, the time and the speed, the type of the driver, your insurance premium will automatically adjust.”

He goes on to list examples of behaviors which will attract higher premiums and fines from local law enforcement: “If you drive too fast or are too risky, you not only pay a fine to the magistrate, but your insurance premium automatically increases.”

Of course, if you refuse to pay – or are unable to do so – you will no longer be able to drive your own car. “If you register as a night driver -> higher premium. If you have more passengers in the car -> higher premium. If your premium is not paid -> you will no longer be able to start your car.”
Data abuses in the present

Pegararo found evidence to support all these claims, with his only reservation being with the term “politically exposed.” He substitutes the phrase “criminally exposed,” but the case remains that the German state is planning to exercise the power to disable anyone’s car at will.

He also cites the fact that Tesla (and new Volvo) cars currently monitor passenger activity with inbuilt video cameras. This data, he says, is supposed to stay within the car “unless there is a safety issue.” Real-time monitoring without knowledge or informed consent is already here.

What is more, he goes on to mention the 2016 digital driver’s license project of Anglo-French technology firm Thales.

Piloted in four U.S. States, and now adopted by over fifteen, the scheme effectively introduces a digital ID into the lives of U.S. citizens, whose data will be combined with that produced by their driving habits to render a near-total picture of their behavior and consumption patterns.
Power and technology

What Pegararo found not only confirmed the claims in the letter as genuine, but also revealed that plans had long been underway to realize not only remote control of driving, but to ease the introduction of the total surveillance system enabled by digital ID.

Whilst Pegararo himself argued that these changes are largely due to technological advancement, used by private companies and not driven by some government agenda, the result is the same regardless of the actor and their intention.

Without your intervention there will be nothing to stop our lives being dominated in a digital dystopia. Politicians are desperate for popularity. Your messages of protest and of concern can popularize the cause of freedom against data-hungry corporations, whose pursuit of the bottom line without any accountability will result in a permanent democratic deficit.

This is not only about who is permitted to drive. It is about the control and limitation the technology which will drive our lives. It is up to us to hold our politicians to account, to ensure that the destination is a future worth living in

The bit about them passing on all data about alcohol consumption to insurers even when within the safe limits is worrying.

Seems to run counter to this 2014 resolution too https://www.engage.hoganlovells.com/...onnected-cars/ and Lifesite is a bit of an extreme conspiracy theorist nutters site so you have to take it with at least a few grains, if not bags, of salt.

[bungarra]

Big Brother in Western Australia already caught out using electronic surveillance to monitor traffic on the Kwinana and Mitchell Freeways. Main Roads were caught using technology to monitor Bluetooth items in vehicles and on pedestrians and cyclist using the paths near the freeway, knowing it was illegal and ordered by the courts not to do so. 4 months post court order, they eventually stopped.

[aussiblue]

Big Brother in Western Australia already caught out using electronic surveillance to monitor traffic on the Kwinana and Mitchell Freeways. Main Roads were caught using technology to monitor Bluetooth items in vehicles and on pedestrians and cyclist using the paths near the freeway, knowing it was illegal and ordered by the courts not to do so. 4 months post court order, they eventually stopped.

Yep; I missed that at the time. Reported here too: https://www.drive.com.au/news/wa-gov...ng-technology/

[Trendseeker]

Tesla offers vehicle insurance to drivers in the USA based on a safety score that is calculated on their driving behaviour and is adjusted month by month.

https://www.tesla.com/support/insura...time-insurance

[kypez]

Silly article trying to link monitoring to EVs. My Mustang has the Ford pass app that can monitor the car remotely as did our old Mercedes with the Mercedes Me app. More and more manufacturers offer Apps that provide a lot of information about the car remotely that can be accessed by the manufacturer.

Monitoring of drivers and cars has nothing to do with whether they're electric or not.

One of the insurance companies had (or might still have) an app that gave you a driving score by pulling GPS data from your phone.

[Trevor 57]

Geeesus, trucks have had big brother electronic tracking for years

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

Geeesus, trucks have had big brother electronic tracking for years

Yep and many fleets of light commercial vehicles have in vehicle monitoring (IVMS)
that monitors driver behaviour like not putting on seat belt before starting ignition,
Harsh acceleration/braking/ swerving, speeding above GPS posted speed limits,
driving in excess of 2 hours without a break.
There’s a whole raft of crap that has to be adhered to as managers get reporting in real time.

One example is slowing to 60 kph down off ramps, do that and cars behind think you’re brake checking them
Loads of fun and games with general traffic that pick and choose which laws they do and don’t follow.

[Trevor 57]

Yep, but the poor car drivers are think they are being victimised lol

Wait until their cars are speed limited (like heavy vehicles have been for years) to not much over maximum posted speed limits. Yes it's coming. Already happening in Europe

[roKWiz]

You could see this happening years ago with the push to sell automatic transmissions.
It would be very hard to control a vehicle remotely with a manual installed.

[Itsme]

Why are people surprised in the world of new technology? companies and big brother has been doing this for years which is the norm.

[jpd80]

People carry their GPS phone “dobbers” in their pockets and wonder why authorities know so much about them…

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by jpd80

People carry their GPS phone “dobbers” in their pockets and wonder why authorities know so much about them…

You forgot to add the internet, this where you are really spied upon and tracked.

[marty351]

This is a serious concern in a functional "democracy", though I believe they have that well covered.

The source goes on to say that “if a vehicle is registered to a politically exposed person and there is a suspected case, this person will no longer be able to start their vehicle (it will be deactivated via remote monitoring).”

This will not be restricted to the affected person’s own car, he says. “This applies to all private vehicles in which the politically exposed person sits (except officially registered ones, e.g. police cars).”
Claims checked out

[roKWiz]

Horatio use the pulse.

[smoo]

Originally Posted by marty351

This is a serious concern in a functional "democracy", though I believe they have that well covered.

The source goes on to say that “if a vehicle is registered to a politically exposed person and there is a suspected case, this person will no longer be able to start their vehicle (it will be deactivated via remote monitoring).”

This will not be restricted to the affected person’s own car, he says. “This applies to all private vehicles in which the politically exposed person sits (except officially registered ones, e.g. police cars).”
Claims checked out

Only need to look at the Canadian Truck protests during Covid.
Had their bank accounts frozen and threats of insurance policies becoming void.

[marty351]

You can still hitch a ride. Problem gets mjch worse when you're bio chipped. Bye-bye freedom.

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by marty351

You can still hitch a ride. Problem gets mjch worse when you're bio chipped. Bye-bye freedom.

I'm sure after Covid, Government's and big Pharma's have collected plenty of medical data anyway......

[kevino]

Originally Posted by roKWiz

I'm sure after Covid, Government's and big Pharma's have collected plenty of medical data anyway......

My arm still makes buzzing noises after five covid shots

[roKWiz]

If you really want to go dark, just buy a bike and you become invisible to most
car drivers.

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by kevino

My arm still makes buzzing noises after five covid shots

I thought you would be hearing voices in your head by now.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by kevino

My arm still makes buzzing noises after five covid shots

I'm disappointed, my 5G reception didn't improve after getting my three.

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

Yep, but the poor car drivers are think they are being victimised lol

Wait until their cars are speed limited (like heavy vehicles have been for years) to not much over maximum posted speed limits. Yes it's coming. Already happening in Europe

The thing that makes me laugh is no one cares its happening to someone else, its only when it happens to them its suddenly a problem.

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

The thing that makes me laugh is no one cares its happening to someone else, its only when it happens to them its suddenly a problem.

of course, that is so normal and standard

Originally Posted by kevino

My arm still makes buzzing noises after five covid shots

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

I'm disappointed, my 5G reception didn't improve after getting my three.

I remember saying at the time of my first or 2nd shot. I watched the Dr draw the vaccine from a vial and it was obvious there was enough in the vial for about 4 shots. I said to him "how do you know I am getting my microchip and not someone else's plus I could be getting 2 or 3 or I could be getting none" he laughed and laughed

[rare ss]

That's why they make you wait 15min in the waiting room post covid shot, it's to the wifi can sync with the chip

[Trevor 57]

but what if you miss out or they give you too many? Oh I know that is why you have to have the boosters to either put one in or take some out, or they become faulty with time - ahhh silly me.