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Old 03-03-2024, 11:37 PM   #1
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Default Toyota 4WD, ute customers to foot the bill for fines under new Australian emissions targets

https://www.drive.com.au/news/toyota...ons-fine-bill/

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It seems Toyota is mulling passing on 'debits' that will be incurred by their more polluting (and popular) models to their customers. The debits convert to fines, and they are not keen in purchasing credits from other automakers:



"If car makers fail to meet the targets set, they will be issued 'debits' that convert to fines – which Toyota says it will pass onto customers close to, or in their entirety.

Modelling by the Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries – which are estimates based on the company's current model line-up – suggests Toyota could rack up debits equivalent to penalties of $13,250 for a Toyota LandCruiser or $2690 for a HiLux."



The Cruiser is expensive already, do you think their customers will notice another $13,250? Do you think customers paying extra is controversial after everything that has happened since covid?

I had a look at the CO2 emitted by the popular RAV4 hybrid and at 101g it too will become too polluting before 2029, and thus cop a fee.
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Default Re: Toyota 4WD, ute customers to foot the bill for fines under new Australian emissions targets

when you look at what people are already paying for instagram-ready 79's.....
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Default Re: Toyota 4WD, ute customers to foot the bill for fines under new Australian emissions targets

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when you look at what people are already paying for instagram-ready 79's.....
Thread is over - first post in and we've provided evidence of Toyota passing on fines to customers in the form of flogmobile 79 series ****er tax
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Default Re: Toyota 4WD, ute customers to foot the bill for fines under new Australian emissions targets

Everyones going to be in the same boat, consumer will pay somewhere, Automakers arent going to cop it.
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All to get us to some unrealistic target that our Govt decided was a good idea !
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Old 04-03-2024, 12:08 PM   #6
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isn't that the whole ****ing point? just like emissions trading. Punters don't buy the expensive product, so the dealers have to import something cleaner.
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All to get us to some unrealistic target that our Govt decided was a good idea !
If a change in government like US when Trump got in (or lobbying from auto industry, like in Europe which still has manufacturers and ze Germans have successfully wound back abandonment of ICE) changed policy in the future here too, perhaps the target would move similarly. And then become a political ping pong ball in this very partisan age.


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Everyones going to be in the same boat, consumer will pay somewhere, Automakers arent going to cop it.
In the States it seems the legacy automakers paid to the non-polluting ones, and such was the rise of Tesla. Now they have fed their nemesis, I wonder if any execs regret this? Toyota seem to have said flat out 'no' to this, and this is the most interesting aspect of their response: rather than pay their competitors, make their customers pay more. I reckon this might work, as Aussies will pay almost anything for a cruiser.
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