![]() |
|
Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum. You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us. Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated. |
|
The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk |
![]() |
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
![]() |
#62 | ||
Thailand Specials
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Centrefold Lounge
Posts: 49,028
|
|
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#64 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Catland
Posts: 3,618
|
Quote:
__________________
I6 + AWD |
|||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#65 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Catland
Posts: 3,618
|
Just want to mention the Suzukis, and in particular their all grip system. You can get it on the Vitara and S-Cross.
So it runs in 'economy' mode in fwd and sends torque back when it detects slip, it has a sports mode with I guess better shifting, it has a snow mode that sends 66/33 front to rear - I think continuously, at all speeds. And it's got a lock mode that goes 50/50 front to back, all with the traction control able to brake the wheels. Some of the faux AWD systems will disconnect the AWD over 40km/h - so useless. This Suzuki one seems like a great idea, oh, and you get a 6 speed torque converter auto with your turbo petrol motor. It makes the cars a bit like a cross between the Subies and the AE95 Corolla of the 1990s, which did have a real AWD system. Analog gauges and (be still my heart) buttons to turn off the lane change and auto braking complete the simple, driver in control aspects of the car. Had no idea this existed in the new car market.
__________________
I6 + AWD |
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#66 | |||
Donating Member
![]() Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 12,177
|
Quote:
My comments were in line with shared development costs between Mazda and Ford. While Mazda is big in Australia, the brand doesn't have the same presence in other markets, the USA in particular. Being a relatively small brand means they have less resources to play with. This is where the Ford partnership allowed Mazda to share the expensive items like platforms and powertrains, in turn allowing Mazda to spend money on the finer details like chassis prowess and feel, engine tuning and sound, flamboyant styling, quality interiors ect. Without Ford co-development, Mazda have to spend money differently in developing models from scratch. I'm not saying new Mazda's are crap, their interiors are simply brilliant for the price, and I love that they decided to pursue RWD platforms and inline 6 engines. However, in certain respects Mazda have moved in a different direction or even backwards. Things like chassis and steering tuning, which had previously been their hallmark. The budget constraints and customers wanting less road noise and ride harshness have led Mazda to chase a wider audience, while compromising what made them great.
__________________
PX MK II Ranger FG XR6 FG X XR8 Mustang GT T3 TS50 - gone but not forgotten |
|||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#67 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Canberra Region
Posts: 8,923
|
We have the T-cross at work, and the way it can't wait to shift up a gear to presumably save fuel, causing the engine to lugg and even ping does not give any confidence for engine longevity.
__________________
2016 FGX XR8 Sprint, 6speed manual, Kinetic Blue #170 2004 BA wagon RTV project. 1998 EL XR8, Auto, Hot Chilli Red 1993 ED XR6, 5speed, Polynesian Green. 1 of 329. Retired 1968 XT Falcon 500 wagon, 3 on the tree, 3.6L. Patina project. |
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
This user likes this post: |
![]() |
#68 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 3,465
|
Yeah
There’s two tunes on the one litre Ones 70 kw and 175nm at 1500 or 1750rpm Other is 85 kw and 200 nm at 2000rpm I reckon the lower power engine changes smoother from stop as torque developed lower Have you tried driving it in sport mode? |
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
This user likes this post: |
![]() |
#69 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Melb.
Posts: 4,439
|
I thought the early Ford 10 speeds were criticised for constantly shifting up and down or were they clunky/jerky in slow and stop start traffic like all "DSG-type boxes"?
|
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#70 | |||
Donating Member
![]() Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 12,177
|
Quote:
The earlier gear skipping calibration also caused some weird up shifts, especially the 1st to 3rd and 3rd to 5th under light throttle driving. Future updates smoothed that out. On the latest Ranger's, the 10-speed now shift sequentially, even on light throttle acceleration. While this means it shifts more often, each change is smoother. To me, this feels more natural. On 10-speed Mustang's, Ford engineered a pronounced gearshift thump in Sport+ and Track modes, so firm that it will chirp the rears on upshift. If you are used to syrupy smooth torque converter autos, that firmness would be quite disconcerting. What I find most annoying about the 10-speed, and it seems to be common to all 10-speeds from an Explorer to an F-150 to a Ranger to a Mustang, is that manual inputs have too much delay and that it will automatically upshift at redline. That delay combined with the auto upshift can sometimes cause an accidental double upshift. On a Ranger or Explorer, that is not going to be an issue for most, on a Mustang it's unacceptable.
__________________
PX MK II Ranger FG XR6 FG X XR8 Mustang GT T3 TS50 - gone but not forgotten |
|||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#71 | |||
IWCMOGTVM Club Supporter
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Northern Suburbs Melbourne
Posts: 17,798
|
Quote:
The auto issue is at really low speeds and if you have better pedal control the issue isn't there. But considering it's not a manual vehicle the update is a good idea as pedal control seems difficult for people who have only driven auto's all their life. If you punch this car it's extremely smooth and quick. The suspension gripe, in all seriousness it's not something I've noticed. Coming from a Falcon with 19's it was nice and it rides better than the Territory. The only thing I could think the issue is that the rear could bounce harder going over speed bumps. I've got a bigger gripe with the car....but otherwise it's got good power and it's nice to drive.
__________________
Daniel |
|||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |