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Edit: if only the Americans had listened to this man https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._Edwards_Deming Instead, he went to Japan...
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Ecotec was a rough old nugget, but were just as indestructible as the Falcon six without the headgasket issues.
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My parentage was not of Ford origin, but of Holden, so don't ask me how or why I landed in the blue camp. My father owned a number of Holden's, although none after I was born. He has always been adamant that the 186 was the best 6-cylinder engine they made, in particular the specific balance between capacity/ability to rev, and how they responded to modifications.
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I got love for the Ecotec/Buick V6, thats the best modern-era GM 6 cylinder ever.
Yeah its rough, but **** its indestructible, just everything about it, even electrically its good. That era Commodore basically only do intake manifold gaskets, DFI, coil packs, CKP, ignition key slip rings and sometimes BCM. The HF V6 'Alloytec' successor is an absolute turd from a reliability standpoint in comparison. |
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For the more recent era I like their ecotec, but without being a mechanic I'd be stuffed trying to replace that timing sensor thingy on the side of the highway. If I had the space: https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...17227521/?Cr=0 Do you have space for that wags Franco?
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Will be interesting to see how the new 150-Series Prado will do against the Everest. It certainly looks the part with the vaguely retro styling and will naturally have the Toyota reputation advantage, but the price rises and the carry over ancient 2.8 boat anchor count against it.
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-new...ross-the-board
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Yeah, yeah, I know, way off topic... The 186S is better than the 186 and I think I am one of those believers that the 186 is the best of the red motors. When I was 18, I owned a LC Torana with a 202 and then I drove one with a 186S engine in it (well, that was what I was told was in it) and it deadset scared the crap out of me! |
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Those things are absolute turds, can't believe they went from ye olde 3L job to the new 2.8L and went backwards at a rate of knots with all sorts of issues. KUN26R is peak Hilux IMO. I reckon it'll fly off the shelves because Toyota, all their cars drive like park benches, yet they sell hand over fist. |
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I must say we've never had a major issue with the 2.8s, the odd one with a timing chain rattle but that's it. Probably had a few hundred come through the fleet.
The old 1KDs arnt perfect either, plenty crack pistons. Basically if you want them to last, you should replace the injectors, fuel pipes, water pump, and do an intake clean at the same time you do a timing belt. Going rate is $7-8k.
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It will sell very well I would say. People love Toyotas. ![]()
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As XR Martin quotes, overall %'s rule to me, they have sold a shedload 3fold, people keep buying AND that new Prado will sell well. You can't beat the distribution channels and the ongoing branding they have despite the flaws here people bring out, consumer and fleet land will keep buying.
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I just loved the 186 and glide in a mate's HR Prem. So nice, the whole car, presentation, drive experience.
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The Petrol hybrid of the new Prado is of interest, I wonder how they are going to do the 4x4 system.
I've followed their hybrid 4x4s with Adventure Sports TV on yt, Ryan has tested them and initially the rear e axle wouldn't apply in any meaningful way when needed, but they seem to be getting better. Surely Prado would do the hybrid in series rather than a separate e axle at the back.
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Only problem with the Nissan I6 was the skyrocketing Superyen (as Modern Motor dubbed it) making it not very cost effective to source, hence that glorious sounding V8 was brought out of retirement, quickly slapped together for unleaded, Trimatic was the only available transmission, and made less power and torque than a crossflow EFI Falcon six. But the ads came out thick and fast, "there's nothing like an Aussie V8 and you can only get one from Holden", they always were better at marketing than our team were. From what I gather it cost less for GMH to make a V8, than it did for them to buy a stock standard I6 from Nissan. Hence the Buick 3800, favoured by muzzas everywhere. Many a grandma spec VN Executive was thrashed into the ground during my high school years.
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