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Old 21-03-2019, 09:31 PM   #1
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Hi everyone, we have a 2010 MB Mondeo titanium in the family, 2.0 diesel but I’m struggling to find out any details on the transmission type fitted and if it’s the PowerShift or if that was fitted to the later models. Any tips on how I can easily tell? TIA
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Wet Clutch MPS6 Powershift was fitted to Mondeo from 1/4/2010 and only in certain models. If you can pass on your VIN we can confirm what is in your vehicle. Otherwise it will have the AWF21 traditional auto transmission.
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Old 22-03-2019, 06:41 PM   #3
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Hi everyone, we have a 2010 MB Mondeo titanium in the family, 2.0 diesel but I’m struggling to find out any details on the transmission type fitted and if it’s the PowerShift or if that was fitted to the later models. Any tips on how I can easily tell? TIA

If it is a Powershift it will probably say so on the gear shift lever.
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Old 22-03-2019, 08:21 PM   #4
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Thanks GT legend, I will grab the VIN and post when I next get a chance..
Otherwise no indication anywhere on the car that I can identify to confirm if it is or not. The owners manual includes both trans types but does not specify which one ours is fitted with.
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The Powershift is quite different to drive as it doesn't have a torque converter. It feels like a manual with an automatic clutch - you don't get the revs changing like a normal auto.

If you've driven both you'd know instantly but it's difficult to describe.
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The Powershift is quite different to drive as it doesn't have a torque converter. It feels like a manual with an automatic clutch - you don't get the revs changing like a normal auto.

If you've driven both you'd know instantly but it's difficult to describe.
I describe it (especially on hills) as like a learner driver driving a manual.
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Old 31-03-2019, 09:09 AM   #7
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Well I’m confident it’s not a PowerShift trans as it drives the same as a conventional auto, there are no visible markings or branding to suggest it is. The reason I ask is recently the gearbox has become quite sloppy and hesitant when stopping/starting. A bit erratic under acceleration. Am getting it serviced this week as car has now done 140k and I’m guessing is well overdue for a transmission service.
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Well I’m confident it’s not a PowerShift trans as it drives the same as a conventional auto, there are no visible markings or branding to suggest it is. The reason I ask is recently the gearbox has become quite sloppy and hesitant when stopping/starting. A bit erratic under acceleration. Am getting it serviced this week as car has now done 140k and I’m guessing is well overdue for a transmission service.

Definitely keen to get updates on this. As far as i'm aware, auto trans services only really involve changing the fluid. If the trans is slipping and hesitating, a fluid change could actually make it perform even worse - if the root cause is the loss of adhered grit on the various slip discs inside the trans. see this excellent youtube video that talks about this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o690DovjDAc
Would like to know how you go, what the mechanic thinks after they've driven it and had a poke around
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Definitely keen to get updates on this. As far as i'm aware, auto trans services only really involve changing the fluid. If the trans is slipping and hesitating, a fluid change could actually make it perform even worse - if the root cause is the loss of adhered grit on the various slip discs inside the trans. see this excellent youtube video that talks about this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o690DovjDAc
Would like to know how you go, what the mechanic thinks after they've driven it and had a poke around
No problems, I will post an update once serviced, if it is anything more sinister than this I will have to weight up what needs to be done to get it sorted.
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here's a pic of my '09 MB AWF21: (scroll down a bit)

http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11442028
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Picked up car after all of about an hour at the local trans 'specialist'. He's said it's a power shift model and has taken it for a quick drive and wants nothing to do with it.. too hard it seems which has ****ed me off quite a bit after waiting 2 weeks for a booking. Absolutely less than no help really. Still want to confirm if it's a power shift model, VIN is WF0EXXGBBEAJ15341 build may 2010. Is a titanium diesel 2.0
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VIN is WF0EXXGBBEAJ15341
here ya go, its a Powershift as you were told:

Primary Features

Build Date: 01.06.2010
Vehicle Line: Mondeo 2007-2014
Body Style: 5 Door Saloon
Version: Series 60
Engine: 2.0L Duratorq DOHC(150/163PS)-DW10C
Transmission: 6 Speed Powershift 6DCT450 - MPS6
Drive: RHD FWD
Emission: Stage V Emissions
Air Conditioning: Dual Zone Auto Temp Control A/C
Territory: (+)"AUS"
Paint: Frozen White Interior
Fabric: Alcantara / Ebony


Minor Features

  • Less Rear Mudflaps
  • Less Front Mudflaps
  • With Hill Launch Assist
  • With Standard Liftgate
  • (-) Version Packages
  • Genk Plant Build
  • Less Security Lock Group
  • Less Special Equipment Package
  • Less Fleet Options
  • Less Marketing Flex Prep Pack
  • Less Special Order Paint
  • Marketing Level 1
  • Full Dress Up RSO Less Rear Spoiler
  • (-) SVP
  • Less Safety Packs
  • Less SIP
  • (-) Econetic - SIP
  • Less 'Autumn' SVP
  • (-)'Fuel Economy'
  • (-)'Black Edition'
  • (-) Trend Colour SVP
  • (-) S Edition SVP
  • Enhanced Interact Vehicle Dynamics
  • Less Tyre Repair Service Kit
  • With Global Closing
  • With Electric Rear Windows
  • Blue Tinted Glass - Complete
  • With Blue Glass Windscreen
  • Less Heated Windscreen
  • With Console Ashtray
  • Less Temp Controlled Glove Box
  • With Monotone Instrument Panel
  • Front Floor Carpet Mats
  • Rear Floor Carpet Mats
  • Less Sun Blinds
  • With Level 5 Door Trim Panel
  • Less Load Rest
  • Less Rear Screen Sun Blinds
  • Body Colour Surround/Mesh Insert
  • Less Roof Rack
  • Rocker Panel Moulding - VP
  • Electric Operated Rear View Mirror
  • Dual P/Heat/Signal/Pud Lamp Mirror
  • With Front 4 Way Headrest
  • Less Special Front Seat Covers
  • Less Special Rear Seat Covers
  • With Rear Seat Centre Armrest
  • With Passengers Man Lumbar Support
  • Driver Heated Seat-Variable Temp
  • With Heated Pass Seat-Variable Temp
  • Less Rear Heated Seat
  • Less Child Integrated Seat
  • With Driver 2 Way Pwr.Seat Adjuster
  • With Pass 2 Way Manual Seat Adjust
  • Less Rear Seat Armrest Packs
  • Less Trailer Coupling
  • With Chrome Exterior Door Handle
  • With Leather Gear Shift Knob
  • Power Door Dead Lock W/Elec Release
  • Keyfree System
  • With Keyless Entry System
  • With Automatic Windscreen Wiper
  • Less Headlamp Washer/Wiper
  • Power Tilt/Slide Sun Roof
  • Front Bumper Sensor Device
  • Bumper Extension - Front-VP
  • With Rear Bumper Skirt
  • Air Curtain Restraint LH
  • Air Curtain Restraint RH
  • Inflatable Knee Bolsters - Driver
  • With Side Air Bag - Drivers Side
  • With Side Air Bag - Passenger Side
  • Less Passenger Air Bag Deactivation
  • Spare Wheel - Mini Steel
  • Less Tyre Pressure Sensors
  • With Standard Rear Shock Absorbers
  • 18" Wheel - Style 2
  • Limited Service Mini Spare Tyre
  • Less Wheel Covers
  • Non Locking Lug Nuts
  • With Sports Tuned Suspension
  • Front Spring Load Class-R
  • Rear Spring Load Class-G
  • With Chrome Exhaust Pipe Extension
  • Collision Mitigation System
  • With Brake Emergency Assist
  • Less Skid Plates
  • Sports Front Seat
  • With Rear Duct / B-Pillar
  • Less Air Purifier Sensor
  • With 70 Litre Fuel Tank
  • Less Gaseous Prep Pack
  • Soft Feel Type Steering Wheel
  • With Adaptive Speed Control
  • Less Auxiliary Heater
  • Conventional Instruments - Level 3
  • With Perimeter Anti-Theft
  • With Rear Parking Aid
  • With Front Parking Aid
  • 80 AH Battery
  • Less Auxiliary Compact Disc Player
  • BT/VC Phone Interface + USB Connect
  • Roof Mounted Radio Antenna
  • High CDX6+AM/FM Radio W/Diversity
  • Ice Feature Pack 80
  • With 8 High Series Radio Speakers
  • Voice Activated Module - British
  • Less Camera
  • Advanced Front Lighting System
  • Less Daytime Running Lamps
  • With Front Fog Lamps - VP
  • With Footwell Lights
  • With Submarine Lighting-Interior
  • With 2nd Row Reading Lamps
  • With Automatic Headlamp On/Off
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here ya go, its a Powershift as you were told:

Primary Features

Build Date: 01.06.2010
Vehicle Line: Mondeo 2007-2014
Body Style: 5 Door Saloon
Version: Series 60
Engine: 2.0L Duratorq DOHC(150/163PS)-DW10C
Transmission: 6 Speed Powershift 6DCT450 - MPS6
Drive: RHD FWD
Emission: Stage V Emissions
Air Conditioning: Dual Zone Auto Temp Control A/C
Territory: (+)"AUS"
Paint: Frozen White Interior
Fabric: Alcantara / Ebony


Minor Features

  • Less Rear Mudflaps
  • Less Front Mudflaps
  • With Hill Launch Assist
  • With Standard Liftgate
  • (-) Version Packages
  • Genk Plant Build
  • Less Security Lock Group
  • Less Special Equipment Package
  • Less Fleet Options
  • Less Marketing Flex Prep Pack
  • Less Special Order Paint
  • Marketing Level 1
  • Full Dress Up RSO Less Rear Spoiler
  • (-) SVP
  • Less Safety Packs
  • Less SIP
  • (-) Econetic - SIP
  • Less 'Autumn' SVP
  • (-)'Fuel Economy'
  • (-)'Black Edition'
  • (-) Trend Colour SVP
  • (-) S Edition SVP
  • Enhanced Interact Vehicle Dynamics
  • Less Tyre Repair Service Kit
  • With Global Closing
  • With Electric Rear Windows
  • Blue Tinted Glass - Complete
  • With Blue Glass Windscreen
  • Less Heated Windscreen
  • With Console Ashtray
  • Less Temp Controlled Glove Box
  • With Monotone Instrument Panel
  • Front Floor Carpet Mats
  • Rear Floor Carpet Mats
  • Less Sun Blinds
  • With Level 5 Door Trim Panel
  • Less Load Rest
  • Less Rear Screen Sun Blinds
  • Body Colour Surround/Mesh Insert
  • Less Roof Rack
  • Rocker Panel Moulding - VP
  • Electric Operated Rear View Mirror
  • Dual P/Heat/Signal/Pud Lamp Mirror
  • With Front 4 Way Headrest
  • Less Special Front Seat Covers
  • Less Special Rear Seat Covers
  • With Rear Seat Centre Armrest
  • With Passengers Man Lumbar Support
  • Driver Heated Seat-Variable Temp
  • With Heated Pass Seat-Variable Temp
  • Less Rear Heated Seat
  • Less Child Integrated Seat
  • With Driver 2 Way Pwr.Seat Adjuster
  • With Pass 2 Way Manual Seat Adjust
  • Less Rear Seat Armrest Packs
  • Less Trailer Coupling
  • With Chrome Exterior Door Handle
  • With Leather Gear Shift Knob
  • Power Door Dead Lock W/Elec Release
  • Keyfree System
  • With Keyless Entry System
  • With Automatic Windscreen Wiper
  • Less Headlamp Washer/Wiper
  • Power Tilt/Slide Sun Roof
  • Front Bumper Sensor Device
  • Bumper Extension - Front-VP
  • With Rear Bumper Skirt
  • Air Curtain Restraint LH
  • Air Curtain Restraint RH
  • Inflatable Knee Bolsters - Driver
  • With Side Air Bag - Drivers Side
  • With Side Air Bag - Passenger Side
  • Less Passenger Air Bag Deactivation
  • Spare Wheel - Mini Steel
  • Less Tyre Pressure Sensors
  • With Standard Rear Shock Absorbers
  • 18" Wheel - Style 2
  • Limited Service Mini Spare Tyre
  • Less Wheel Covers
  • Non Locking Lug Nuts
  • With Sports Tuned Suspension
  • Front Spring Load Class-R
  • Rear Spring Load Class-G
  • With Chrome Exhaust Pipe Extension
  • Collision Mitigation System
  • With Brake Emergency Assist
  • Less Skid Plates
  • Sports Front Seat
  • With Rear Duct / B-Pillar
  • Less Air Purifier Sensor
  • With 70 Litre Fuel Tank
  • Less Gaseous Prep Pack
  • Soft Feel Type Steering Wheel
  • With Adaptive Speed Control
  • Less Auxiliary Heater
  • Conventional Instruments - Level 3
  • With Perimeter Anti-Theft
  • With Rear Parking Aid
  • With Front Parking Aid
  • 80 AH Battery
  • Less Auxiliary Compact Disc Player
  • BT/VC Phone Interface + USB Connect
  • Roof Mounted Radio Antenna
  • High CDX6+AM/FM Radio W/Diversity
  • Ice Feature Pack 80
  • With 8 High Series Radio Speakers
  • Voice Activated Module - British
  • Less Camera
  • Advanced Front Lighting System
  • Less Daytime Running Lamps
  • With Front Fog Lamps - VP
  • With Footwell Lights
  • With Submarine Lighting-Interior
  • With 2nd Row Reading Lamps
  • With Automatic Headlamp On/Off
Thank you, much appreciated. Is difficult to actually find out once you start digging.
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Thank you, much appreciated. Is difficult to actually find out once you start digging.
No probs, that info is directly from ford.co.uk against your VIN so it's as trustworthy as it gets. There have been a few changes with Fords system and my last login didn't work so eventually I had to get it going again.

Save those main details what ever you do.
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Why is it so hard to find mechanics who actually want to do work? Hopefully you can get it sorted man
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Its imperative that the wet clutch MPS6 Powershift is serviced every 60K kms. You will see a lot of failures not much after the 60K kmson these if they are not serviced correctly.

Have you tried taking it to your local Ford dealer (not sure where exactly you are) for at least some diagnosis and a quote. You may be surprised in some instances there are good dealers around.

A reputable auto trans place in Melbourne you can also try below.

https://abautomatics.com.au/
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Why is it so hard to find mechanics who actually want to do work? Hopefully you can get it sorted man
It wastes working time and makes no money, so very few people are willing to do this kind of business, Especially in Australia.
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