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Default The cost of toll roads on the economy

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Australian drivers are paying billions on major Transurban-operated roads, and the costs will keep rising

In Victoria, there are serious consequences for people who do not pay when they use toll roads.

Drivers can be fined hundreds of dollars, or in extreme cases, face prison time.

Figures obtained by the Peninsula Community Legal Service under freedom of information laws show Fines Victoria issued 252,118 toll fines worth a total of $46 million in 2022-23.

A lawyer from Inner Melbourne Community Legal, Shifrah Blustein, who regularly deals with clients with big toll fines, says the system is unfair.

It is very rare for her clients to have intentionally avoided paying tolls, she said.

In the 2023-24 financial year, 1,465 people faced the Victorian Magistrates Court over toll fines.

Under Victorian government changes introduced in 2020, drivers can only be issued one toll fine per week.

That has led to a sharp drop in the number of fines, which have more than halved from a peak of 600,000 in 2020.

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In Melbourne, motorists who live in the outer suburbs can pay a big chunk of their average salary to get into the city.

Drivers heading into the city from the Mornington Peninsula pay about 18 cents per kilometre for the return trip, using both the CityLink and EastLink toll roads.

It is equally taxing on drivers in Greater Dandenong, who may spend about 12 per cent of the area's average salary on tolls for the same trip.

Sydney:

Sydney is threaded with toll roads. More than 150km of them weave through the city.

In Sydney's south, Wollondilly residents who drive to the city every workday can spend about 17 per cent of their average income on tolls.

Motorists travelling from the Hills District to the city every workday can spend about 11 per cent of their average income on tolls.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-...ners/104488190

I spend a couple thousand bucks a year on tolls for work getting about Melbourne and around $700/month on fuel,

Sort of curious as to the effects on the economy with toll roads taking out a decent chunk of people's disposable income,

Those of you in states with toll roads, what are you guys spending on tolls?

Causes some interesting issues with heavy vehicles, I do a little bit of heavy haulage work and we'll avoid toll roads and go through suburban areas - because the industry doesn't charge customers for tolls.

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It's our own fault. We'll happily take out a loan for a car or home, but criticise the government when they do it. I would much rather the government fund toll roads, and even if they charge a toll for their use, at least it goes back to the taxpayer in services. Privatised major roads are short-sighted, much as airports are.
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It's our own fault. We'll happily take out a loan for a car or home, but criticise the government when they do it. I would much rather the government fund toll roads, and even if they charge a toll for their use, at least it goes back to the taxpayer in services. Privatised major roads are short-sighted, much as airports are.
Well, maybe your fault, I was in primary school when those decisions happened in the 1990s
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I seem to recall lots of building of tolls roads well after the 2000's.
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It’s not practical for me to wholly avoid them, but I certainly minimise my use.

Worked with a fellow on a job, who’d done time for not paying tolls. He was a ping-pong ace as a result.

I’m not a fan of privatisation in any form; we still have bureaucratic bloat and endemic corruption all around, it won’t improve either way.
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Blessed to an extent in Melb. Western Suburbs!
Though the trade off for minimal toll roads is the occasional Sudo home invasion or the odd machete attack whilst shopping?
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How would crime change with toll roads? The usual suspects would still be bailed with an additional charge of failing to pay tolls.

NSW would slap a toll on the M1 between Werribee and the West Gate, and the M2/M79 to Keilor.
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It's our own fault. We'll happily take out a loan for a car or home, but criticise the government when they do it. I would much rather the government fund toll roads, and even if they charge a toll for their use, at least it goes back to the taxpayer in services. Privatised major roads are short-sighted, much as airports are.
The way Daniel Andrews/Jacinta Allan government have spent and wasted money in the last ten years gives credit to your solution; only government atm that seems to have unlimited funds to spend compared to others.
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