New way for police to check emissions...

[EDManual]

I was driving down the Hume Highway today, and happen to have a CO monitor (Carbon Monoxide) with me. Its digital, so gives a reading pretty much instantly.

Just out of curiosity I had the "wand" testing the fresh air from my vents. Normally with no one around it sits on 1ppm, when sitting behind new cars that are crusing on flat roads its on 2ppm. Older cars around 4ppm. Up hills everyone has to floor their cars more, so theres more CO, it gets to 4 or 5 up hills. Trucks seem to have very low CO emissions, couldnt see more than 2, even when in their smoke.

I did however come across a Nissan GTR, big exhaust etc, he was just idling along at 100 (110zone) and the CO emissions when through the roof! Up near 20 at that small throttle position!!

What does this mean! He had no Catalytic Converter!

Cops should have digital CO monitors installed in their cars. Pull over the ones who are bad.

Why dont the cops do something actually useful like that? Its not hard. And they could make heaps of cash! A $1000 a pop fine for that is about the price for this offence. Its a wonder Steve Tax hasnt thought of this already.

[Scott]

Is 100ppm (parts per million?) much? It's .0001%.

[EFFalcon]

more ppl speed then drive around with no cat converters.

[Bobman]

Can't agree more,

Our health is being ruined everyday because of smokey bombs or even late model cars with sensor problems.. or yes people who gut their cat convertors.

I would love to see this tackled as an ongoing crackdown, rather then the speeding fiasco the government is infatuated with.

Falcon's tend to be particularly bad at emitting emissions, even BA's stink especially when cold.

Diesel fumes are particularly bad, especially driving behind.

I'd say your experience with that Nissan Skyline would be common, just about every Nissan ricebox I see on the road that guns it emits a good deal of black or grey smoke out of their canon sized mufflers.

Pollution should be #1 on EVERYONE's mind, as it's changing the planet everyday for the worse.

[Interceptor]

you seriously want to make an impact on peoples health re: fuels?

get rid of unleaded, it has a stack more carcinogens than good old super

[XA-Coupe]

Perhaps if the cops had the legal ability to do it they would.

[EL_futuraistic]

Thats a pretty good piece of equipment. Where abouts do you purchase one from??

It it similar size to a multimeter, or is it a big thing?

[BA_Turbs]

Emission testing is done by the EPA, not the police.

Perhaps police should be out making sure electrical contractors have a licence too? That could also save lives and make the world safer.

[EDManual]

yeah, its about the size of a multimeter(a big one) and what I have is worth about $3 or $4000.

Yeah, its probably easier for the cops (govt) to sit there booking people(making money) who are being safe along freeways doing 10 or 20 over the low low speed limits..... than actually doing something useful.
The cops are the govt, so is EPA, cops are there just to make money, EPA, well they could be actually called something useful. At least the cops could get them to go to the EPA for a check.

What I have is this :

http://www.tsi.com/Product.aspx?Pid=19

Its a real good instrument! Can log data over time etc...

[EFDream]

Thats the price of a real nice set of rims AND a decent Cat Converter....lol

[Bobman]

I'm all for anything to help lessen the effects of pollution and would happily pay my tax dollars to do so.

Nifty little unit you have there though, and at that price I can't see it being a problem to fit to each and every highway patrol car (at least) considering what radar guns are worth.

Interceptor: Agreed, super might make you loopy but unleaded has undesirable long term affects, just look at the health problems firefighters now face after coode island fires in 1991.

[Casper]

EPA useful?

Effectively the EPA is a "pay to pollute" agency. If you want to pollute you pay more. The only people the EPA target are those polluting without paying the "bribe" to the EPA. Its like a mafia protection racket!

[Barry_v]

posts like this make me want to lay a burnout on the EPA's lawn in the XM (which has no cat converter, no PCV - just vents to atmosphere, no charcoal canister and no fuel bowl vent solanoid).

the latest round of hippy laws have an oxygen sensor placed after the catalytic converter so that if it stops functioning the 'check engine' light comes up on the dash. so people cant really run around with dead cats anymore.

[henry 351]

Its funny what people perceive sometimes.

Yes, we worry about cars on the road without catalytic converters, but we don't seem to care about when we are trackside at the V8 supercars breathing toxic fumes (V8 supercars run premium unleaded with no catalytic converters). Nor do we worry we we push a mower in front of us pumping out toxic fumes (no catalytic converter), motorcycles next to us in the traffic (no catalytic converter) or boat motors (no catalytic converter). The list goes on.

I know its cynical, but what price on health??? People worry about sending their kids to schools next to major roads and factories, but they're happy to sit the same kids trackside to watch the V8's.

I wonder how many road cars are equally guilty of not running catalytic converters when they should be? The performance gain is comparatively small anyhow.

[mattp]

Want to know the burden on the massively congested health system caused by pollution? Bugger all. Get everyone to stop smoking, drinking, eating fatty foods, and sitting on their fat ***** then worry about the pollution, cos believe me, it's the least of our health worries. Maybe we should get the cops to pull over all the smoky cars or those with no cats and then make the driver jog home. It'd be win win. Obesity increases the risk of EVERY type of cancer you can get. Our health may be getting ruined, but it ain't the smoky cars, which, by the way, I'm all for getting off the road. I'm just sick of people blaming random crap for the burgeoning cost of disease on society. As for the EPA, maybe they should police this, but it's certainly not a job for the cops, especially if they had the power to give on the spot fines... Like you said, emissions vary from car to car and from situation to situation. Having lived in Victoria for years, I'm against propping Bracks' ineffectual budgeting up with more road fines. I got a ticket for doing 63 in a 60 zone going down a hill. On Australia Day. How unpatriotic is that? Anyway, that's my rant over with then, cheers, Matt.

[nugget378]

All we need is another hassle like this,imagine following people around checking emissions,what next.

cars go out of tune,cat's wear out,so what.
Soon youll have to almost be a millionaire to run a car.
Excuse me if I cant afford to update a car every few years, if some thing like this happens you will have to buy a new car every two years as it will be too expensive to maintain one to that level.
Now I feel like going to the farm and chopping down 100 trees,just to **** off all you greenies.

[Sourbastard]

Originally Posted by Bobman

Can't agree more,

Our health is being ruined everyday because of smokey bombs or even late model cars with sensor problems.. or yes people who gut their cat convertors.

I would love to see this tackled as an ongoing crackdown, rather then the speeding fiasco the government is infatuated with.

Falcon's tend to be particularly bad at emitting emissions, even BA's stink especially when cold.

Diesel fumes are particularly bad, especially driving behind.

I'd say your experience with that Nissan Skyline would be common, just about every Nissan ricebox I see on the road that guns it emits a good deal of black or grey smoke out of their canon sized mufflers.

Pollution should be #1 on EVERYONE's mind, as it's changing the planet everyday for the worse.

Legal Emissions have nothing to do with what you are smelling.

Theres nothing wrong with Falcons emission systems when they are cold. You are smelling a fuel rich mixture, which lessens legal pollutants, not increases.

If you cant stand the smell of fuel, you are certainly in the wrong place.

Now, Im overweight, married twice, would rather beat a hippy to death and eat him over a burning bean bag, than be bothered walking the distance to the kitchen, I drink heavily, I eat with no concern for my health, I attend motorsport events and sniff petrol in the garage, i breath in dust from country runs, i swear, i stress, I'd murder you all given the chance!!!! According to the above, I should already be dead 4 times.

now... whats my health like? Perfect according to my doctor. Must be the EPA keeping me safe.

[Scott]

Originally Posted by sourbastard

now... whats my health like? Perfect according to my doctor.

Your doctor is too scared to say any different by the sounds of it.

[LTDHO]

If cars are seriously out of tune where they measure 10 or more then something should be done. ALL cars on the road need/should be maintained.

[EXECJIM]

Originally Posted by EDManual

I was driving down the Hume Highway today, and happen to have a CO monitor (Carbon Monoxide) with me. Its digital, so gives a reading pretty much instantly.

Just out of curiosity I had the "wand" testing the fresh air from my vents. Normally with no one around it sits on 1ppm, when sitting behind new cars that are crusing on flat roads its on 2ppm. Older cars around 4ppm. Up hills everyone has to floor their cars more, so theres more CO, it gets to 4 or 5 up hills. Trucks seem to have very low CO emissions, couldnt see more than 2, even when in their smoke.

I did however come across a Nissan GTR, big exhaust etc, he was just idling along at 100 (110zone) and the CO emissions when through the roof! Up near 20 at that small throttle position!!

What does this mean! He had no Catalytic Converter!

Cops should have digital CO monitors installed in their cars. Pull over the ones who are bad.

Why dont the cops do something actually useful like that? Its not hard. And they could make heaps of cash! A $1000 a pop fine for that is about the price for this offence. Its a wonder Steve Tax hasnt thought of this already.

Who's side you on :

How about thinking about where we should place some more speed camera's :

If you have nothing better to do than check for gas smells, how about thinking of ways to help us motorist's that always cop it in the aass!

I hear the country has nice fresh air :

[XR8Rebel2001]

Originally Posted by Bobman

Nifty little unit you have there though, and at that price I can't see it being a problem to fit to each and every highway patrol car (at least) considering what radar guns are worth.

Bwahahaha! You've got to be joking. The police don't pay for radar guns. The TAC does. As for fitting every car with new equipment, look how long it's taken to get in car video, and even now they've only funded enough for about half the fleet. And out of five cars at the Bendigo TMU office, only two have Stop Sticks.

That said, I'm all for the police having them, anything which gets sh#tboxes off the road is a good thing. :evil3:

[The G6ET Spot]

Originally Posted by EDManual

Trucks seem to have very low CO emissions, couldnt see more than 2, even when in their smoke.

Makes you wonder how they send me a $1300 fine in the post for blowing too much smoke,going up a hill,and no recourse, just pay the thing and thats it. And had to take the truck to the EPA to be tested,what do you know, it passed.When I asked as to why I wasn't pulled over when they saw me supposedly blowing smoke,they inform me that they don't have to they just have to see me blowing smoke for 10 seconds and they can send the fine in the post. : Not able to put down what was said next as there would be just a lot of blank spaces on the page.

[Bobman]

Originally Posted by XR8Rebel2001

Bwahahaha! You've got to be joking. The police don't pay for radar guns. The TAC does. As for fitting every car with new equipment, look how long it's taken to get in car video, and even now they've only funded enough for about half the fleet. And out of five cars at the Bendigo TMU office, only two have Stop Sticks.

That said, I'm all for the police having them, anything which gets sh#tboxes off the road is a good thing. :evil3:

Lol,

That's what I meant, the TAC to provide this for at least TMU cars. I mean MDT's aren't cheap either? They're everywhere now.

Makes you wonder though why they have SS & XR8's in the city if pursuits are virtually non-existant and usually begin with a divisional van lol and terminate 5 minutes later.

[jonk]

Cat Con's don't last that long.

About forty thousand kms and they die... little known industry secret. Even exhaust shop's don't know it.