I see Chinese made MGs everywhere!

[mick taylor]

True story ! People think it's a Pommy car !

Oil leaks ?

7 years warranty so what ! People think that means no cost will be involved if something goes wrong ?
Read the fine print ! and understand that they are not going to repair nothing unless they have to and have a bag of tricks that await you as well.
They have bugger all spare parts sitting in Australia, too bad it you need a Starter motor or engine or Gearbox blows up, you have a big wait on your hands !

It's like all the old European dirt bikes back in the 70's 80's you could had to wait 6 months for parts to arrive. so if you road every weekend you bought a Jap dirt bike as they had a true spare parts backup that you could call upon to deliver.

[Poetic Justice]

Originally Posted by mick taylor

True story ! People think it's a Pommy car !

Oil leaks ?

7 years warranty so what ! People think that means no cost will be involved if something goes wrong ?
Read the fine print ! and understand that they are not going to repair nothing unless they have to and have a bag of tricks that await you as well.
They have bugger all spare parts sitting in Australia, too bad it you need a Starter motor or engine or Gearbox blows up, you have a big wait on your hands !

It's like all the old European dirt bikes back in the 70's 80's you could had to wait 6 months for parts to arrive. so if you road every weekend you bought a Jap dirt bike as they had a true spare parts backup that you could call upon to deliver.

Let's get our hand off it, shall we?

Australian Consumer Law is in place for a reason - ACL does have the ability to protect the consumer due to parts delays that are unreasonable. And in that time delay, they must be offered a loan vehicle free of charge.

[kevino]

If you have a prang the panel beaters wait months for parts.
Source GC panel beater

[mick taylor]

Originally Posted by Poetic Justice

Let's get our hand off it, shall we?

Australian Consumer Law is in place for a reason - ACL does have the ability to protect the consumer due to parts delays that are unreasonable. And in that time delay, they must be offered a loan vehicle free of charge.

Not true ! my brother bought a New 4X4 and no loan car that's for sure, he had to get the starter motor redone himself, things broke as well and he had to fix himself, even the fuel filler broke and that came a year after.
He was not happy at all with any of the service.

Other brother has just bought a New China car front wheel bearing gone only so far, but had to wait 6 weeks that I know of, if he has got it repaired yet ?

I liked driving my brothers 4X4 Diesel G Wall. but it aged fast and things just broke or played up and he got a shocking bad deal trade in !
But nothing wrong with motor or gearbox or diff etc.

[DFB FGXR6]

More price increases from MG......................

https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-new...s-in-australia

No way in hell is a MG 3 worth $20,000 and beyond.

[Mr Brooksy]

Many people who buy these Chinese owned and made cars don't realise that even in China warranties simply do not exist (even for Toyota's and other makes). Which means that if there is a common problem the manufacturer will not honour it and simply doesn't really know about it. Therefore if they don't know there's a problem and they carry over that tech or mechanical issue it simply gets carried on to all the other cars they make with that same equipment. Model after model until they 'upgrade it'.

The snowball effect is that parts are not as available for 3rd party warranty repairs in countries like ours with laws that require warranty. Your MG/Haval/GWs etc aren't selling you the car in Australia (unless things have changed in the last 4 years) it's a third party importer who then buys parts for warranty repairs from the manufacturer that doesn't produce enough parts to do warranty repairs in their own country, so why bother producing enough for overseas exports to places like Aus? Well they don't, so, you wait and have to fight the importer for warranty repairs.

[DFB FGXR6]

Originally Posted by Mr Brooksy

Many people who buy these Chinese owned and made cars don't realise that even in China warranties simply do not exist (even for Toyota's and other makes). Which means that if there is a common problem the manufacturer will not honour it and simply doesn't really know about it. Therefore if they don't know there's a problem and they carry over that tech or mechanical issue it simply gets carried on to all the other cars they make with that same equipment. Model after model until they 'upgrade it'.

The snowball effect is that parts are not as available for 3rd party warranty repairs in countries like ours with laws that require warranty. Your MG/Haval/GWs etc aren't selling you the car in Australia (unless things have changed in the last 4 years) it's a third party importer who then buys parts for warranty repairs from the manufacturer that doesn't produce enough parts to do warranty repairs in their own country, so why bother producing enough for overseas exports to places like Aus? Well they don't, so, you wait and have to fight the importer for warranty repairs.

In which case, when these cars get a few years on them, in warranty or not, then it's going to be interesting to see if these cars end up being disposable due to a lack of parts support.

[gkhn]

Thanks for the video.
I learnt so much about MGs in less than five minutes!
The truth always hurts.
After sales support sucks.
Good luck trying to get the dealer to fix your issues.
I'd rather stick with known brands like Toyota, Hyundai & Mazda if I was to get another vehicle.

Originally Posted by marty351

Mods; Delete if not needed.

https://youtu.be/RgPQ9eWWTNo

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

In which case, when these cars get a few years on them, in warranty or not, then it's going to be interesting to see if these cars end up being disposable due to a lack of parts support.

The first time I experienced this was trying to fix a couple customers Great Wall V200s, you just couldn't get parts for them no matter how hard you tried.

[gkhn]

This reminds me...
Let's also not forget about some European cars such as Renault.
I once had a brand new Renault work van which was leaking coolant from reservoir/small hoses from day 1.
Obviously being Renault, they have weird plastic hoses which you cannot just get it from places like Repco...
They (Renault stealership) could not replace it. Needed to keep topping it up with coolant.
Of course it made a mess in the garage every time I park it (big green puddle).
After taking it back to the Renault stealership multiple times, they finally got the part and replaced it after almost 2 months.
And this is supposed to be a brand NEW commercial vehicle which was leaking coolant.
I can't even imagine ordinary vehicles.
I wouldn't even drive near a Renault dealership now after my experience with them (take an alternative route).

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

The first time I experienced this was trying to fix a couple customers Great Wall V200s, you just couldn't get parts for them no matter how hard you tried.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

More price increases from MG......................

https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-new...s-in-australia

No way in hell is a MG 3 worth $20,000 and beyond.

As soon as Kia pulled out of the small car market and killed the Rio the price rises came in, it didn't take long

Thats what happens when all the competitors pull out of a segment and one stays in, hands over the market to them,

[gaz084]

My wife just Won one of these last night with Johnsey and Amanda 101.7....she is lady luck,last time i won something was a vhs box set to the panthers 1991 grand final and i was 6!

The Car looks good,with the cost of living and interest rates continuing to rise,its a good compromise for someone that isn't a car lover like us lot and has a low income.

[danzvtil]

Far out, Chinese brands at the next press release: “We’re moving upmarket” where have we heard this before?

[Dr Terry]

This parts issue is not only a warranty problem either.

A friend of mine bought two LDV vans (he is an electrician). They are OK as transport & have good space etc. but recently one was smashed into by a cement truck at a building site while it was parked.

All seemed happy, insurance coverage was OK but after 7 months it is still off the road due to lack of replacement body panels needed for the repair.

He is not a happy camper.

Dr Terry

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by Dr Terry

This parts issue is not only a warranty problem either.

A friend of mine bought two LDV vans (he is an electrician). They are OK as transport & have good space etc. but recently one was smashed into by a cement truck at a building site while it was parked.

All seemed happy, insurance coverage was OK but after 7 months it is still off the road due to lack of replacement body panels needed for the repair.

He is not a happy camper.

Dr Terry

I've learnt 3 things from this.

[hayseed]

Originally Posted by Dr Terry

This parts issue is not only a warranty problem either.


Dr Terry

Exactly, Nor is It unique to Chinese Vehicles..!!

Just ask Trev57 about His Ranger Steering Rack...


http://fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11497166

[kevino]

Qld gov have just bought 50 mg hs prev for Qld Police

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by kevino

qld gov have just bought 50 mg hs prev for qld police

hwp ?

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Mr Brooksy

Many people who buy these Chinese owned and made cars don't realise that even in China warranties simply do not exist (even for Toyota's and other makes). Which means that if there is a common problem the manufacturer will not honour it and simply doesn't really know about it. Therefore if they don't know there's a problem and they carry over that tech or mechanical issue it simply gets carried on to all the other cars they make with that same equipment. Model after model until they 'upgrade it'.

The snowball effect is that parts are not as available for 3rd party warranty repairs in countries like ours with laws that require warranty. Your MG/Haval/GWs etc aren't selling you the car in Australia (unless things have changed in the last 4 years) it's a third party importer who then buys parts for warranty repairs from the manufacturer that doesn't produce enough parts to do warranty repairs in their own country, so why bother producing enough for overseas exports to places like Aus? Well they don't, so, you wait and have to fight the importer for warranty repairs.

I've heard a few stories along the same lines. Warranty is a nightmare, they seem to be wiping their hands of it. They really don't care if they lose a customer.

Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

In which case, when these cars get a few years on them, in warranty or not, then it's going to be interesting to see if these cars end up being disposable due to a lack of parts support.

They have always been a disposable item. Built to the absolute cheapest cost. 10 years and you won't see many on the road anymore, there's just no longevity built into them.

Originally Posted by gaz084

My wife just Won one of these last night with Johnsey and Amanda 101.7....she is lady luck,last time i won something was a vhs box set to the panthers 1991 grand final and i was 6!

The Car looks good,with the cost of living and interest rates continuing to rise,its a good compromise for someone that isn't a car lover like us lot and has a low income.

I'd sell it and buy something decent lol.

Originally Posted by Dr Terry

This parts issue is not only a warranty problem either.

A friend of mine bought two LDV vans (he is an electrician). They are OK as transport & have good space etc. but recently one was smashed into by a cement truck at a building site while it was parked.

All seemed happy, insurance coverage was OK but after 7 months it is still off the road due to lack of replacement body panels needed for the repair.

He is not a happy camper.

Dr Terry

You'd have to be fuming. Does he get a loan car from the insurance company in the mean time at least?

[kevino]

Originally Posted by roKWiz

hwp ?

I m guessing radar units .,. Parked on the side of the road…. Making use(not!) of their PHEV system.

A panelbeater I used for my last car told me Chinese vehicle parts are terribly hard to source and the owners get terribly angry.


I see an Mg hs owner in my town house complex who does Uber has seen the light/ he now has a Tucson diesel.

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by kevino

I m guessing radar units .,. Parked on the side of the road….

Being Chinese, they'll end up as fixed speed camera's.

[kevino]

Not a bad idea.
I had one as a rental standard hs for three weeks last year
Dreadful car awful

[hackney]

There is an excellent YouTube video( ReDriven) on the MGHS, needless to say, it ain’t that great.Worth a watch.Cheers.

[anobserver]

We've been looking for a new daily, and theres a huge number of low mileage mgs on the market.

Compared to the japanese and korean cars, its really noticeable.

Never considered buying one, though.

[kevino]

Ex rentals
All the rental coys could get during covid was Chinese

[Ben73]

I joined an MG owners group on Facebook. Quite a few people whinging about issues on their brand new cars.
I’m also in a Grand Cherokee group. At least the complaints on there are usually about vehicles that are 6+ years old.

[DFB FGXR6]

Originally Posted by Ben73

I joined an MG owners group on Facebook. Quite a few people whinging about issues on their brand new cars.
I’m also in a Grand Cherokee group. At least the complaints on there are usually about vehicles that are 6+ years old.

Let me guess, that group is made up of a bunch of Karen's. In the beginning, they are boisterously proud of their purchase, happy to have got a brand-new car for the price of a used one. "Look how noiwse it is, it's got everything en stuff an dat".

Then the crappy quality control rears its head and suddenly they turn into bunch entitled moaners, wondering why their cut-price Chinese made pile of junk is broken.

[kevino]

Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

Let me guess, that group is made up of a bunch of Karen's. In the beginning, they are boisterously proud of their purchase, happy to have got a brand-new car for the price of a used one. "Look how noiwse it is, it's got everything en stuff an dat".

Then the crappy quality control rears its head and suddenly they turn into bunch entitled moaners, wondering why their cut-price Chinese made pile of junk is broken.

Young lady in our townhouse complex has a recent Haval H6gt.

Recently she had all the exterior Haval badges removed.
I asked her dad why.

She reckons it looks more like a Porcshe.

Dads wife has just purchased a Mg HS.

The oldest (Chinese)Mg in our townhouse complex which a guy used for Uber has been replaced with a Tucson diesel ,,,,,

Several new MG s in our complex ,,, be interesting to see how they go.

[Franco Cozzo]

I'd consider an MG3 if they had a half decent engine - Chinese manufacturers insist on making underpowered junk.

It should be turbo 2L with manual option, 175KW/350NM or an 8sp torque converter auto.

They could offer more than just being cheap junk.

They could be cheap quick junk

[Late braker]

You get what you pay for