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#271 | ||
Ford screwed the Falcon
Join Date: Sep 2013
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I do it cold turkey. As regulars of AFF know I have an anxiety disorder which I am using Paroxetine to control. Last thing I need is another type of medication to mess with my head. A friend of mine used Champix successfully but he said it gave him weird dreams.
Just one thing to remember - once a smoker, always a smoker. I was off them for nine years then dropped my guard and was back on them. Once you break the habit, NEVER fall into the trap that "i'll just have one". You'll like it, want another and before you know it you are hooked again.
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#272 | ||
FG XR6 Tray back
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Lockyer Valley
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I was a smoker for over 20 years, going cold turkey a couple of times, used the patches a couple of times, but the one that really did work was Champix. Yep really vivid dreams were common but i completed the course and haven't looked back, that was about six years ago now.
If you really want to give up, you need to commit to it. Not a half hearted effort, and with the temtation of just having one, just don't have it. That temtation will go away after a couple of minutes. My partner is a long term smoker, so dedicated that when the time comes for her, we'll organise an ash tray to put in the coffin. If your fully committed to giving up, you can do it. Worked for me anyway. |
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#273 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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Used to smoke 8 to 9 packs of 40s a week - a pack a day on weekdays, then averaged 3 to 4 packs over the weekend (combination of drinking and more 'downtime').
First time I gave up I went cold turkey and lasted nearly 2 years. Wanted to smoke every single day of that near 2 years. Second (last) time I gave up was probably about 4 years ago now, maybe more. Read somewhere on this forum (maybe this thread) about the book "Easy Way to Stop Smoking" by Allen Carr and mentioned to the wife I might give that a go as it was about $30 on Amazon. Came home the next day to find she had grabbed an early copy of it from the local library. Read most of the book that night - stopped just before the chapter titled "Your Last Cigarette" as I was getting there mentally but was not quite 'there' and did not want to face the following day at work without a smoke (so obviously closer to there but not there). Finished the book the following evening, never smoked since, and would like to think I never will as it feels different this time. First time I still wanted to smoke but used will-power not to (for as long as I could). This time I no longer want to smoke, no matter what my routine or sobriety, what stress, who I am with, etc. Can get smashed and hang out with chain smokers all night without any urge to join them. For me I found it to be as the book said - 10% physical, 90% mental. The physical side of things (cravings/withdrawal symptoms) for me was actually not that bad; as the book said, it felt similar to hunger and only lasted about 5 to 7 days. It is the mental want to smoke that needed to be broken for me. Sure, before the book I used to consciously tell myself that I really wanted to give up, (and consciously I really, really did), but I still had it programmed in my subconscious. Basically the book reprogrammed my subconscious so that mentally I no longer wanted to smoke - all I had to do then was get through the physical side, a week of feeling hungry - and the job was done. Did find it hard at times to read every bit of the book as I found some parts a bit repetitive - would find myself skipping paragraphs where he was presenting information previously presented albeit in a different way. When I found myself doing that I would go back and read the passages I nearly skipped, as I figure it firstly was a way of reinforcing the information; and secondly I figured it was the old-school adult-learning technique of "over-learning" where you present the key information 7 times at different intervals in 7 different ways - which is meant to help you retain the info (or in this case help move it to your subconscious). Well, that's what I figure anyway. So for me the book worked and worked well - and all it cost me was a $2 late return fee to the library (read it in 2 nights but didn't return it until months later as I am slack). Might not work for everyone but definitely worth a shot - just make sure you really want to give up (not others want you to give up)...then don't just read every word in the book, hear every word and really take it in. |
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#274 | ||
Ford screwed the Falcon
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For those still struggling, what I usually do prior to giving up is smoke myself stupid prior to the set end date. Even when I don't feel like a smoke, I light up a cigarette. I push so many of them through me in the last few days that I get to the point where they taste like poo and I feel awful whenever I have one due to the nicotine overload. Get to the point where you just don't want it anymore. Then be mentally strong when the cravings occur.
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I disagree with getting hooked again. I start and stop at my own free will.
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Ford screwed the Falcon
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One week smoke free for me. Still find moments during the day where I want to light up.
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#277 | ||
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Join Date: May 2015
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51 weeks since I quit. I'll post my "1 year..." next Thursday, guaranteed.
I'm not making Nicandro Durante and his cronies any wealthier. |
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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I wish you the best, stick with it, it has to be better for you than not giving up.
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#279 | ||
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Join Date: May 2015
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After 30 years of smoking about a pack and a half of winnie gold every day, I gave up for good just over19 months ago.
First time I lasted 10 weeks before someone ****ed me off and the ciggy's calmed me. Made me smoke more though. Second attempt about 2 months later worked, and I now know I just will not smoke ever again.There is just nothing good about it. The reason I quit as well, as odd as it sounds, was that I didn't have a problem with exercise or being out of breath, and that worried me from all the smoking, as I started to think these problems would come, and I would regret it. Best decision ever. What helped me, was: A) Go cold turkey B) Every time you feel the urge, re-assure yourself it is withdrawal - tell your self you are not going to physically die from how you feel. C) Do it for the ones who care about you. If you can survive the few weeks of this, it will only get better, and remember, ciggy's are hard to give up, and knowing that, should help to avoid taking it up again. Hope this advise helps anyone who is keen to quit, as the longer your off them the more you will dislike it, and also save some $$$$'s Good luck with your efforts |
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#280 | ||
Ford screwed the Falcon
Join Date: Sep 2013
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Day 11 and still smoke free. Still tempted every now and then.
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#282 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Melb north
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Most of these vices , quitting is all about your mindset , you have to really want to quit , there is no " i will try to quit " , you either want to ........... or you dont ,
i quit cold turkey about 20 years ago ..... never ever had another ciggy ever , never wanted to. If you make up your mind you want to do it .......... it is done simple as that. You can do it ! |
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#283 | ||
Bathed In A Yellow Glow
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: NSW Central Coast
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It’s not easy giving up and sure you’ll have times when you want to light up but you have to tell yourself you don’t want to smoke anymore, you don’t want to feel half alive anymore, you don’t want everyone to be able to smell you when you walk into a room anymore, you don't want to feel like an outcast with a filthy unhealthy habit anymore, you don’t want to waste all that money when it could be wasted on cars anymore, you don't want to shorten your life expectancy anymore and you don't want to increase the risk of possibly ending up with some God awful smoking related illness anymore.
Like others have already said you have to want to give up and when you do decide that you truly don’t want to smoke again you will start telling yourself all of the above as there are many more negatives to keep you motivated to trump the temptation to go back to a sithouse habit. Be positive about not wanting the negatives. Good luck mate I wish you success. |
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#284 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Sausage Singlet NSW
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I gave up cold turkey about 15 years ago or thereabouts, I was a packet a day smoker and more when a few beers were thrown in the mix :( I started smoking roll your owns with a filter for the last few years before quitting and apart from still having to have good will power I still feel that by removing the tailor made cigs (Winnie Blues were my originals) and smoking the rollies instead, it had made the process a lot easier. You're doing great mate, stick to it and don't be tempted, trust me, once you're off them for a couple of months the physical urge will be completely gone, it's the mental urge you will need to control ![]() ![]() Hang in there, it's well worth it ![]() |
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#286 | ||
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Join Date: Jan 2016
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It is actually relative easy if you can get your mind set right. What is harder? Quitting smokes and having cravings for a few weeks then saving heaps of money and feeling good again, or the doctor telling you that you have lung cancer or emphysema and you are going to die a really ****** slow death.
I know which path I took and it was easier |
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#287 | ||
Isn't it obvious?
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I was picking lotto numbers at a fairly local newsagent last week and they had a table of books for sale, on it was the alan carr book about smoking.
$15. Ive decided when i go back down this sat i will purchase it....hopefully its still there
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#288 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Apr 2013
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2 days for me. I'm on those e-cigarettes.
After smoking for 26 years I can categorically tell you even using this method, and not going cold-turkey, I've noticed the difference in my respiratory system. And no, it's not placebo effect. I'm on the beers right now and it feels weird. Smoking for that long, it's like losing a mate, lol. |
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Join Date: Dec 2015
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Best of luck to you. Btw, not meaning to be a wet blanket but those e-cigs aren't much better for you than tobacco. Most of them have some really dodgy ingredients in them. |
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#290 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Apr 2013
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Yeah Nicotine, it's Poisonous. GP's recommend patches/gum for people that can't go cold-turkey. Funny how the chewies almost cost as much as the smokes.
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#291 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Canberra
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I just had about 5 weeks holidays. I didn't have the patches on at all in that time because I tend to smoke a lot more when I drink like most people.
I have been back at work for the last two days. I have not been that occupied but have had the patches back on and barely had any smokes. So I went from having a pack a day or more to barely anything in a short period and feeling perfectly fine. I'm hoping to take the next step and just trust the patches completely this year. |
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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Location: Bunbury WA
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Go for it.
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#294 | ||
Ford screwed the Falcon
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29 days for me and counting. I've noticed a few improvements:
- don't wake up with a bad taste in my mouth - richard seems to be looking me in the face more often (yes I am serious) - blood pressure is lower (have an Omron tester)
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#295 | ||
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Australasia
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For most people addiction is hard to shake loose from for others it can be easy. Talking with friends who have been through this we noticed it takes about 3 years on average to finally get rid of the urge to smoke, these days I can finally admit I hate the smell of tobacco. |
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I would be interested in hearing your theory on 16 different personalities.
Would personality 5 or 9 have more difficulty in quitting, or 2 really wants to give up, but 4 and 12 are giving him a hard time because they are drinking with 10, who tends to smoke more when alcohol is being consumed? ( 10 can get a bit nasty on the turps, so I tend to drink with 3, he's happy when he drinks and has never smoked ) |
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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Day 3 bishez. |
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Like Madaya said the book is all about deprogramming you so you no longer have the mental want to smoke (which is meant to be 90% of the battle), and all you need do then is get through the short period of physical withdrawals and you are an ex-smoker. So read those repetitive bits as that is all part of how it is meant to work. Easy to get started too as you don't have to stop smoking the moment you start reading - there are times he tells you to have a smoke while reading certain text as it helps make the point, and he also concedes many wouldn't even start reading the book if they had to give up smoking that instant. Madaya - didn't know he did a book on alcohol. Cheers for the heads up. |
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#300 | ||
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I've been about 4 years clean now - was a pack a day smoker.
The biggest motivator for me was seeing my partners face begging me to quit - seeing her like that tore me to shreds. After that I threw out a brand new 40 pack and never looked back.
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