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At work our 1st and 2nd year apprenti are loving the extra pay. The rest of us get the 750 and work pay the rest to make up our weekly wage. When i was a 1st year on a flat week i made $280. These days 1st years are on more then the $9 per hour i was, and back in 06 i was getting paid better then my mates. Its a rort for the low income earners, but atleast it keeps people in jobs for the time being. I almost felt bad for my tenant when he said he is on the job keeper payment alone. His position currently does not exist, nor his industry. Then he tells me its great, only down $10 per week and has no work or work related expenses.
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Whilst the CDC did start monitoring airports early, 3 at first and 20 by end of Jan they haven't exactly covered themselves in glory through this pandemic. CDC mission: As the nation's health protection agency, CDC saves lives and protects people from health threats. To accomplish our mission, CDC conducts critical science and provides health information that protects our nation against expensive and dangerous health threats, and responds when these arise. https://www.propublica.org/article/i...to-coronavirus https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/propublica/ The CDC fumbled its communication with public health officials and underestimated the threat of the coronavirus even as it gained a foothold in the United States, according to hundreds of pages of documents ProPublica obtained. As the organistaion set up to deal with pandemics the CDC was resposible for testing https://www.technologyreview.com/202...virus-testing/ Early testing failed and took weeks (a month?) to sort. No doubt Trump has got things wrong but he will also unfairly wear the F-ups of the CDC. |
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You had it easy In my day $140 (and I thought I was rich) |
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Go to the inflation calculator and put in your weekly apprenticeship wage in what year then compare it to 2019
I was getting $270/week as a 1st year apprentice - $7.05/hour in 2010 https://www.rba.gov.au/calculator/annualDecimal.html About $320/week in 2019 spondoolies ![]() |
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Kicking back
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Yeah, but you probably have an education and are doing better for youself these days. It's not really a financial hit getting paid to get industry experience and getting paid to learn. Beats working nights for little funds.
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Budget Racer
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It's so not about Mr Trump....
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Wirlankarra yanama
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Wait to see if this happens...
Report: Apple Plans to Move Significant Amount of iPhone Production from China to India https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/...hina-to-india/ |
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I Just graphed some numbers from https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/fluview/mortality.html
Up until about a 4 weeks ago ago there was no significant increase in the average weekly mortality rate. it then bumped up by a total of 10k one week, 15k the next, then back to normal. This was a big bump for those weeks as usually 55000 people die each week in USA. This bump (while every life lost is sad) is not even a 1% increase in the typical annual lives lost from all causes. |
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https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/21/appl...-in-india.html I'm interested in how mainstream media advertises the latest development because I've set to find anything except by 'alternative' sources and various Indian media companies. |
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Australia had 7 new cases yesterday so CMR drops to 1.396% and active cases to 9.7%. It should be noted that most of those were in Victoria and that 12 new cases have been reported in Victoria so far today already.
NZ had 3 new cases so CMR is down to 1.403% and active cases to 6.8%. UK had almost 4k new cases but only 210 deaths so CMR drops to 14.375% but active cases are up to 85.3%. The USA only had a bit over 20k new cases and 750 deaths so the CMR drops to 5.908% but active cases are up to 75.4%. Both those figures are a lot better than the 30k / 2k numbers that we've been seeing. Globally, we've passed the 4.25M case mark and the increases from other countries have dropped the USA below a third of all cases (32.56%). Spain and Iran are both starting to climb again after they had flattened out and Russia had a second straight day over 11k new cases. Africa has also surpassed 3k new cases / day.
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And you tell young people that today and they won't believe a word....
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Where to next??
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Those figures are eye watering....
If we have a spike after restrictions it won't be pretty. 4 years to financially recover apparently.
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AU3 ute EL futura
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I used to dream of someone to beat me. I had to beat myself, and I had to get the stick first. Sticks were rare in those days, not like now, laying around all over the place. _I_ had to work for 27 years before I could START my apprenticeship and paid for the privilege...Only had time to beat myself in bed AFTER I'd fallen asleep... |
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Wirlankarra yanama
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I would say it is already questionable if we will be able to repay the current debt, once the real numbers for C19 are added we will never be able to repay the debt
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austra...overnment_debt So in the meantime, GovCo will keep on issuing Treasury Bonds and increase the return until someone buys them. It's interesting how Bonds works IMO it is a Ponzi but that would be illegal. ![]() |
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this talk of 'taxpayers will be paying for years' is just meaningless emotive language. there will always be taxpayers, and workers don't get a direct say in how the money gets spent. Yes, you can vote for certain political parties etc but at the end of the day, you go to work, you earn money and pay a percentage in tax. that percentage will vary dependant on many factors. its been high before and is currently low. i am aware that's a rather simplistic view of it, but essentially, that's the reality for the average worker. People talk like this current govt spending is coming out of their own pocket.
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Where else is it coming from? I am sure the tax we pay services govt. debt. Happy to be corrected... |
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Frydenburg mentioned a few months ago in an interview that they were selling off shares of Australia to 'pay' for the stimulus package to keep Australia afloat. Not sure what that entails exactly but I can only imagine who on this planet has that sort of coin to purchase such shares.
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If we are giving thought to creating an Oceania travel bubble then there are only 770 active cases in the region, 762 of which are in Australia and NZ with the remaining 8 in French Polynesia (4) and Fiji (4). In fact, of the 14 countries that make up the region, only two other countries have had cases - New Caledonia (18) and PNG (8), both of which now have none.
The rest, Micronesia, Kiribati, Marshall Islands, Nauru, Palau, Samoa, Solomon Islands, Tonga, Tuvalu and Vanuatu have all reported no cases.
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In fact, there are only 13 countries with no reported cases in total. Excluding the ten (Oceania) countries listed above the remainder are: Lesotho, North Korea and Turkmenistan.
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Here's a quick summary of the current restrictions by State. Some of them aren't overly clear so they should be read in conjunction with the advice provided by State Governments.
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You will never not pay tax while you are employed so regardless of the state of the govt position, you will pay tax. Paying tax is also not a bad thing. Paying tax is doing your bit to help finance the govt. We all live in this country and use what it has to offer so why not help to pay for it.
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AU3 ute EL futura
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During the Howard years we had no gross national public debt. What that meant was we were owed the same amount by others as we owed foreign entities. They were awash with cash in those days so used it to pay down debt and then to give out pork. There was still private debt. The coalition mention stuff like this to perpetuate the myth they are better financial managers, just as labor quotes other stuff to perpetuate the lie they are more compassionate and favour the lower classes. If you set aside the propaganda and actually study their policy history you find there isn't daylight between them despite the fanatics aching to believe otherwise. As in Alien vs Predator, whoever wins we lose.... Similar scale of debt was incurred in WW2. It took a while but it got swallowed by inflation and paid down eventually. Decades, not lifetimes, but that assumes they stop excessive borrowing at some point and that gets less likely every year. |
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I was about to write he probably meant bonds
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