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I think the global trade wars will cause more damage than the virus.
I hear on the radio that some countries that owe China money (loan repayments) are not repaying as a form of self imposed compensation against China. Just wonderful - give them an excuse to retaliate... They have been planning this for years - buying up great parcels of land in multiple countries, shipping docks, farms etc. The banter between the world's superpowers is not going to end well. Now the UN wants to probe China... Where was the probing for their human rights violations?? It's the world's worst kept secret what goes on there yet there is a reason why hardly anything is done about it. Fear.....
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Ahh you know what I mean, mortality, so yeah the data on deaths as a whole compared to last year would be of interest. Surely its harder to hide deaths as a total even if you want to play games with how they died.
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[QUOTE=T3rminator;6441834Try explaining that to the farmers or producers being impacted. Many will go broke and out of business, flow on impact to workers and their families. Or be forced to produce $1 per litre of milk for the Aussie market.[/QUOTE]
That's been happening long before Covid due to foreign take overs and land acquisition.
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Maybe we'll get some better meat, I haven't had a good steak since the early 1990's.
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9 new cases and no deaths in Australia so CMR drops to 1.391% but active cases are up to 8.23% (580).
I new case in NZ so CMR drops to 1.401% and active cases to 3.3% (49). Just over 3,500 new cases and 170 deaths in the UK so the CMR drops to 14.213%. 23,488 new cases and 1,218 deaths in the USA so the CMR is down to 5.977% and active cases to 71.5%. Elsewhere: Italy passes 3M completed tests; Brazil (6,344) was back down to more reasonable new case numbers although that might be a result of weekend reporting; and Mexico is starting to record bigger case numbers and the mortality rate is over 10%.
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Franco!!! Get back to work. Cav, you have all those gorgeous women to please and you're hanging around here? Get back to... errr; work???
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Victoria's NE best local steaks I've ever eaten. having $34kg Scotch fillet tonight in fact. $5kg cheaper than that crap Woolworth sell.
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This one, if I read the Belt & road infrastructure funding that Dan has signed Vic up for correctly, does it not include aspects of their social credit monitoring on inner Melb streets with cameras etc? If so, that's an impingement on sovereignty for that sweet, sweet infrastructure $$$ hit...
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The UN should probe. EU should probe. Every country in the world should probe. China knew how badly it would affect their economy if they had contained this virus in China only. Instead, they deliberately let it spread around the world so that they weren't the only ones impacted. If we are going down, you're all going down too mentality. |
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Well it made it 650KM from Brisbane to Rocky, so yes, it can....
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Did it travel on ah-choo-choo?
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-...arley/12261108
They did similar in late 90s to scoured wool (washed wool) which totally wiped out Australia’s wool scouring and combing industry! Resulting in every Aussie wool scouring and wool combing plant relocating to China. If Australia had any balls, they should have put a tariff on greasy wool going TO China! Australia is one of the world’s largest wool, wheat (and to a lesser extent, barley) Not to mention iron ore, uranium etc! WE should be the ones imposing bloody “tariffs”!! NOT them! The sooner we stop letting these so called “super-powers” dictate to us the better!
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We have been putting tariffs on Chinese imports for many years, trying to protect local industries. Now the Chinese have done the same to us.
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They ripped the rug right out from under us with THEM imposing tariffs on OUR wool! And we meekly accepted it! It absolutely decimated the entire Australian wool industry. Anyone remember the saying “Australia... riding on the sheep’s back”? We literally WERE!!... The best, the finest quality wool on the planet... and in incredible abundance! And WE feckin allowed “THEM”... (China) to impose a tariff on Australia’s “bread & butter” WOOL!!! Shouldn’t AUSTRALIA have been calling the shots????? (Nope, let’s just keep selling our soul!) I know I’ve said this before!.... But, I’ll say it again! Australia “SHOULD BE” the wealthiest country on earth! The mineral reserves, the iron ore, the oil and gas reserves, the cattle, the sheep, the grains, the food grown and produced... We ALL should be living like friggin Sheiks! (And they ONLY have oil) There should be zero debt, zero poverty... EVERY Australian should be living on easy street... FOREVER! But.... NOPE!!! The mighty “hollier than though” governments over the years have pi55ed the whole feckin lot against the wall like drunken sailors!! And even worse.... Sold us feckin out!!! (Rant over!....)
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Similarly, South Africa ought to be doing better than it has for a good while. But that’s for another thread!
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Just the other day I saw a pic in China with Australian lobsters as big as your arm, fat and fresh. On the weekend I went to buy one at my local seafood store they looked disgusting, size of your hand, no meat in them and frozen. They wanted $40 for each. ![]() ![]()
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Who wants it? Aussies do; there was a time when local products and imports were in the shops side by side. We all made a choice and the imports won. Don't blame the govt for the decisions we all made. They just let us have the choice and we chose the imports.
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If you were a farmer and you were getting double in a market I reckon your business sense would have pointed you in the same direction. China have the $$$ at the moment, people need to move past that, sure if our "sovereignty" is at risk different story. But I could never get angry at a supplier chasing the $$, thats the whole point of business in the first place. The irony in saying we should stop supplying some markets.....The people making those calls are not the ones living off that income.
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“ALL” being the encompassing word!... I certainly wasn’t asked? Were you? Anyhow.... I made MY feckin choice..... Pura Vida...
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[QUOTE=Yellow_Festiva;6441875]
They have been planning this for years - buying up great parcels of land in multiple countries, shipping docks, farms etc. They have been overtaking us by stealth for years, also there moves on pacific islands is a worry, airplane gifts plus infrastructure like the Tongan wharf which i would imagine they get fishing rights out of this plus access for there Navy. http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/south-p...cific-ventures |
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15 new cases for Australia yesterday and one death. CMR is slightly worse at 1.402% but active cases drop to 569 (8.1%).
No change for NZ but active cases are down to 45 (3.0%). The UK had 2,711 new cases and 160 deaths so CMR improves to 14.121%. The USA had under 20k new cases and only 865 deaths so CMR improves to 5.955% and active cases to 71.4%. Elsewhere: Brazil was back to over 13k new cases; Australia passes the 1M test mark; Lesotho recorded its first case bringing the total of countries with a case to 213; and Qatar has the highest number of cases per 100k of population with 1,179.
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If we had any balls we would start putting tariffs on their cheap garbage that undercuts our quality products.
Government too scared to lose trade though. We would be better off in the long run doing it, and finding alternative markets for our stuff. The UK after brexit is a perfect example. I'm pretty sure we are already trying to get a trade deal going with them atm. |
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Can we list how many 100% Aussie owned mining operations there are in Australia. If we are going to trade with other countries lets do it like for like in values otherwise Australia could work towards being more self sufficient. I reckon 60% of the Hunter Valley is now in China.
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