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Aussie Governments, (regardless of Libs or Labor) have been gradually eroding the guts and soul of Australia for 40+ years! Not for a moment am I against change and progress, but seriously... Short sightedness and the almighty buck has ruined the joint! Privatisation of EVERYTHING! (Behind the scenes, just WHO are the owners?) Whether a pandemic, or a global catastrophic event, the results of selling our soul over the years, were ALWAYS going to come home to roost!
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agreed , and many more agree. but pollies don,t seem to get it, its like there happy to sell out australia for short term profit, lets look at the BIG PICTURE here!
australia has only been civilized for 200+ years, compared to china that's nothing. ive read in y.t. political clips (the comments part) that some chinese already call Australia " new china" and i honestly believe this is where we are heading. slowly, slowly little steps, but they will get there , but imo ozzy pollies can,t afford to be a soft touch. |
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We should do what Japan is doing and offer incentives to get companies out of China, and back home. It might take another 40+ years to unravel, but it will be bloody worth it not being under the heel of a communist state who tries to bully us, lies, steals IP, allows pandemics to spread due to their filthy way of living, and routinely performs cover ups. They are scum, and the one blessing in disguise is the world is now starting to open their eyes to the CCP and their lies and deception. |
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The graphs for today are a drill down on some Asian countries.
The first group shows Bangladesh on a steep upward curve while Pakistan has started to flatten off after a steady climb. Indonesia, Kuwait and the UAE have all started to head in the right direction while Singapore has made good gains over the last few days. ![]() The second group are mostly steep upward trends with only Bahrain and Oman trending downward. ![]()
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I thought they already did.
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Interestingly about our sell out that I agree with BUT the consumer is another piece of the puzzle.
How many times during the early influx of import products did Aussie consumer pick the cheaper Import to the locally made higher priced one ? millions have. We also have such a high cost of welfare (compared to many larger countries) and the rorters that Govco due to their lack of management and making harsh decisions don't due to losing votes have put their hand out to OS Investment to get dollars in the bank to offset incompetance Governace in the big picture BUT those voters don't want to do without. Its a vicious woeful circle that we/consumers are also to blame for. Aussie citizen also voted for minority parties thinking in protest towards the main 2 but all it has done is created more mess to Governance as we have all seen. I need to head to Pura Vida join Charliewool for I don't see us getting out of this mess in a long time, or until we have a real LEADER who can convince the public we got to crawl before we can walk again.
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Maybe we could import UK made cars (made with Chinese or Indian parts) instead of Korean cars made with Chinese parts. How are we better off? |
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Mining requires capital or a vested interest from a nation, thats the reason why you dont see many Australian owned companies. Hate the game not the player, its internal policies that drive the fact we dont take advantage of "cheap" coal and gas here.
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What I wish they could be made more accountable for, is the certain ones who take the back handers at our expense.
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China has cheap labour and a huge domestic market so they can afford to set up an assembly plant to manufacture a billion cell phones a year (2019 figures) Who can compete with that? |
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"On 22 January, the members of the Emergency Committee expressed divergent views on whether this event constitutes a PHEIC or not. At that time, the advice was that the event did not constitute a PHEIC, but the Committee members agreed on the urgency of the situation and suggested that the Committee should be reconvened in a matter of days to examine the situation further." The Emergency Committee had representation from US, Russia, France, Korea, Australia, Canada, China. Interesting no reps from UK or Germany. The decision to not call it a PHEIC was for economic reasons, the decision was split down the middle. The media has been trying to obtain script of a briefing that the government had on the virus in early January under the Freedom Of Information act. It has been blocked. Full and transparent. China has slapped a 80% tariff on barley for pushing US agenda. Guess who signed a free trade agreement with China in January that is heavily weighted towards agriculture? We have been stooged. The Art Of The Steal. |
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russellw, can you stop posting COVID-19 stat's and graphs in the middle of everyone's China bashing posts please??
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ACT planning to move to stage 2 next weekend depending on new cases. No new cases for 15 days so far.
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Sucks to be In victoria....so many new cases...Maccas might have to shut down...people will starve in some western suburbs....4 or 5 retirement villages now...
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I'm struggling to understand at the high level how China has a legitimate complaint with regards to their investigation into dumping barley into Australia. How could it even be possible even with certain subsidies?
I understand that the investigation has been going on for a while but the announcement of this appears to be purely political. We have recourse through the WTO which is likely to take a long time if even it is a favourable decision. Any retaliation will just result in tit for tat so I don't think we should do that blindly. I really hope we are working hard to behind the scenes to lock down deals to diversify markets but this seems to take years at the best of times. Last edited by MITCHAY; 19-05-2020 at 08:05 PM. |
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Bored during lockdown? Call a women's rights group and ask to speak to the man in charge.
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Note to self...Melbourne is NOT Victoria.
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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But how do you stop the human greed of people wanting cheaper and cheaper products .....and doing the research to find out that the product you thought was made locally have shifted the factory bto China?....and learning what products are locally made and spending the extra $ on it , its a hard sell ?.....then theres the pollies with the amount of $ involved you know theres back handers involved .....its not hard to tell by some of the decisions made , a few years back in NZ we desperately needed some locomotives , a company in Christchurch could make better and cheaper Loco's and they needed the contract to keep a large local workforce going , the contract went to China , the local company went broke everyone lost there jobs even though the managers said the Chinese locos were rubbish and they would have problems with them , which proved true..... the only explanation is corruption
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Did you want to start talking about cost of living in Australia? Stagnant wage growth rates etc..all this plays a part in how much citizens have to spend. If you are squeezed what did people/govco expect to happen? Think the thread was better off with conspiracy theories, start another one up for the gradual dilution of the Australian economy if you must. Interestingly, and not great, I know many suppliers in our area that are asking for staff to take leave and even Cummins has started to drop hours. Not good. And thats in mining that has been going pretty well through the whole saga. Iron is doing better than coal currently.
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Let's not forget that regardless of what the statistics say about people's income, a very large percentage of Australians struggle to make ends meet every week. The fat cats drag up the average making it appear Australians are wealthy on average but it just isn't true. Families have to buy whatever they can afford. Easy to say boycott China but Australia isn't big enough to support our industries without exports. Easy to tell the people who are relatively well off or not associated with industries relying on export to China.
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On the point of "cheap chinese crap", well not long ago we would make fun of "made in Taiwan". How times have changed. Boeing and Tesla have factories in China, their manufacturing can be exceptional if given the right budget and specifications. I'm about to get another bluetooth ELM327 device for the falcon.....do I get a $20 that has served me well for 7 years, or fork out $100+ for a "genuine"? Easy choice. On the topic of tariffs, it was interesting to read that they started their investigation in 2018, when WE imposed tariffs on their steel accusing them of dumping. But the fact they taken such a long time to take any action indicates they were somewhat willing to look the other way to keep good relations going. That was until Scomo recently picked up the phone and had a "constructive" conversation with Trump. Also interesting that two of NZ's largest meat exporters have also been slapped with the same non compliance as the 4 in Australia, but they haven't been banned. Again this indicates they are willing to look the other way to keep good relations. Bear in mind, China has one of the strictest import regulations in the world. I read a report somewhere that it is nearly impossible to not get a "non compliance" on every crate when it reaches their port. |
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