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Old 01-07-2021, 06:17 PM   #301
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You raise this "street racing" crap.

But that's the whole point.

My car nails a Mustang or any other Ford in wet as it's made extremely high quality and delivers in all conditions even a decade old.

Why isn't Ford capable of making decent cars anymore?
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The Stinger poos on a Mustang on most fronts - maybe just not the cylinder count.

What if there was a 4dr Mustang? Hmm...
Yeah they could even give it a name, umm, like , l dunno. Falcon?
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You know what's better than an SUV?

Kia Carnival Platinum.

Nothing beats the KING of people movers for moving people (who'd a thunk?!)

It looks gangsta in black too.

If I ever accidentally reproduce I'm buying one of those, using that as my excuse to wear a polo shirt tucked into cargo shorts, matching socks and sandals and I'll be throwing gang signs out the window with one hand and making animal balloons with the other.
Very gangster looking! And with a 216 kW V6, she would do some nice front wheel drive burnouts too!



My old man hired a V6 Carnival in about 2009. The dam thing nearly ran them off the road with power under-steer. I'm sure the newer ones are better though.
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Not pick 1 but a level or two above Ford quality.

I base this on quality not which I'd prefer.
Since when are vw’s reliable? They have a pretty poor rep for turbo engine and dsg failures.

Mustang might not be the top of the pile in build quality, but it’s damn good reliability wise. When was the last time you heard of a coyote going bang?

VW’s are a bit better in terms of build quality, but generally more unreliable. The quality indexes support this, with vw usually being bottom half of the rankings.
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Another couple of days and this dance will happen all over again in the June thread
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Another couple of days and this dance will happen all over again in the June thread
Or next time old mate gets off his meds
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Since when are vw’s reliable? They have a pretty poor rep for turbo engine and dsg failures.



Mustang might not be the top of the pile in build quality, but it’s damn good reliability wise. When was the last time you heard of a coyote going bang?



VW’s are a bit better in terms of build quality, but generally more unreliable. The quality indexes support this, with vw usually being bottom half of the rankings.


I’ve never seen a Mustang with a driveline failure. All I’ve seen is a couple of bad wheel bearings plus the usual rattles or poor panel alignment. I’ve never repaired and engine, trans or diff.
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Another couple of days and this dance will happen all over again in the June thread
Sigh.......... I was thinking the same thing.
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Since when are vw’s reliable? They have a pretty poor rep for turbo engine and dsg failures.

Mustang might not be the top of the pile in build quality, but it’s damn good reliability wise. When was the last time you heard of a coyote going bang?

VW’s are a bit better in terms of build quality, but generally more unreliable. The quality indexes support this, with vw usually being bottom half of the rankings.
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Or next time old mate gets off his meds
Old mate will be back Monday, work day 3 of the new month.

“Toyota can do no wrong, they’ve got the chips under control” etc

As usual. Lol.
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VW have a mustang competitor?? Really?
As i said I was talking quality of build and materials.

People mention reliability and I'm sure Mustang is fine but it wasn't what I mentioned at any stage.

So those laughing at "my meds" etc better learn how to *en read.
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Damo

Thats so unfair.
Wife has just got a new Polo.
its done 557kms in 5 weeks and been 100% reliable if fact 1000% per cent reliable during the current South east qld lockdown.
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Since when are vw’s reliable? They have a pretty poor rep for turbo engine and dsg failures.

Mustang might not be the top of the pile in build quality, but it’s damn good reliability wise. When was the last time you heard of a coyote going bang?

VW’s are a bit better in terms of build quality, but generally more unreliable. The quality indexes support this, with vw usually being bottom half of the rankings.
Having had VW vans for 20 years I will concur...drive beautifully, bank vault feel/solid as a rock, better fit and finish than any other van, ran them both to 300,000km...however when they go wrong it's awfully expensive to repair them. Buy an extended warranty if planning to keep them longer.

Nearly 95,000km in our 2017 Transit Custom and it's been very good...if it could tow 2000kg and RWD/AWD for the delivery area I need once a week I would have bought a 2nd one however had to buy a Vito last week.
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Old mate will be back Monday, work day 3 of the new month.

“Toyota can do no wrong, they’ve got the chips under control” etc

As usual. Lol.
The other old mate who drags mustangs in the wet
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Damo

Thats so unfair.
Wife has just got a new Polo.
its done 557kms in 5 weeks and been 100% reliable if fact 1000% per cent reliable during the current South east qld lockdown.
I'd hope so at 557km

See where we are at 150,000km

Turning spanners on those bastards is enough to make a bloke turn to the bottle, especially parts prices and local availability issues.

I built some of Vic Police's VW Transporters back in the day, wicked stereo, nice to drive, worth throwing annual leave if they came through the workshop though
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I'd hope so at 557km

See where we are at 150,000km

Turning spanners on those bastards is enough to make a bloke turn to the bottle, especially parts prices and local availability issues.

I built some of Vic Police's VW Transporters back in the day, wicked stereo, nice to drive, worth throwing annual leave if they came through the workshop though
She will lucky to get to 90000 kms in 10 years so I m not too concerned.
I drive Transporters and Crafters for work.
These have done 230000 to 285000 kms in 4 years have about 10 of them.
They are not nice to drive anymore sticky dsg s driveline shunt from start and wander all over the road at motorway speed . Well overdue for replacement.
And don’t get me started on the foam in the seat base cushion.
New cushions fitted and within 3 months the foam compressed to tissue paper size.
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The other old mate who drags mustangs in the wet
Maybe we should put a pin in this thread and get ready for July’s “Ford fails again….”
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Get your facts straight.

They tried to drag me and lost big time. I didn't force them or the road to be wet but I do know mine performs equally in both.

Blame your ******** Ford drivers who obviously don't know the capability of other more discreet family vehicles.
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Very gangster looking! And with a 216 kW V6, she would do some nice front wheel drive burnouts too!

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My old man hired a V6 Carnival in about 2009. The dam thing nearly ran them off the road with power under-steer. I'm sure the newer ones are better though.
The worrying thing about Kia's naturally aspirated V6 is peak torque at like 5200 RPM.

I thought the VF Commodore LFX engine sucked, this has to be exponentially worse

Kia Carnival Platinum with Kia Stinger TT V6

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Get your facts straight.

They tried to drag me and lost big time. I didn't force them or the road to be wet but I do know mine performs equally in both.

Blame your ******** Ford drivers who obviously don't know the capability of other more discreet family vehicles.
You didn’t drag them, they dragged you?
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You didn’t drag them, they dragged you?
Correct.

They went into slip lane revving up etc so I thought yes, I'm up for it.

Not close as no grip for the Stang but know it's a faster car and is great looking and no worries.
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Correct.

They went into slip lane revving up etc so I thought yes, I'm up for it.

Not close as no grip for them Stang bit I know it's a faster car and no worries.
When you get done for neg driving or kill someone in this situation. How does the excuse “I didn’t drag him, he dragged me” go in court? Seeing as you’re a lawyer correct?
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When you get done for neg driving or kill someone in this situation. How does the excuse “I didn’t drag him, he dragged me” go in court? Seeing as you’re a lawyer correct?
It's an 80K zone.

I didn't go over it. It was perfectly safe on a highway.

Stop twisting everything ffs as nothing.

I get it's a Ford Forum but * me.

I'm out and good luck all.
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It's an 80K zone.

I didn't go over it. It was perfectly safe on a highway.

Stop twisting everything ffs as nothing.

I get it's a Ford Forum but * me.

I'm out and good luck all.
Nothings getting twisted here.

All based on the facts you provide.

Thanks for your time. Don’t drag anyone on the way out.
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The worrying thing about Kia's naturally aspirated V6 is peak torque at like 5200 RPM.

I thought the VF Commodore LFX engine sucked, this has to be exponentially worse

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The funny thing is if Hyundai built that Van to that spec from factory it would sell.
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