New Tow Tug ,What to Buy?

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by 351LTD

Finally got the Isuzu quotes,had to go in and stir them up,Hino 721 comes out way ahead on dollars and Spec,test drive next just to get a feel of the Auto etc and a test drive of the iveco on friday so slowly moving forward,then time for a decision single or double cab.Fairly certain I going the small truck way at the moment.One thing is Very noticeable and that is Truck and Truck extras Businesses are very busy.

Heavy vehicle industry never sleeps, I'm involved in supplying it and they want everything yesterday, they've not slowed down one bit through our friend COVID19.

Apparently Hino 300 has option of a real auto (Allison?)

Isuzu uses some automated manual contraption - sounds like over engineered junk

[MercuryT]

Jeep seem pretty good these days.

If want a Ute I'd go a Raptor.

[Tassie f100]

Originally Posted by MercuryT

Jeep seem pretty good these days.

If want a Ute I'd go a Raptor.

Think Mr Plod would take a dim view of you towing a 4t caravan with either a Jeep or a Raptor

[janddbone]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Heavy vehicle industry never sleeps, I'm involved in supplying it and they want everything yesterday, they've not slowed down one bit through our friend COVID19.

Apparently Hino 300 has option of a real auto (Allison?)

Isuzu uses some automated manual contraption - sounds like over engineered junk

I got to use oone of those Isuzus for a door to door roll out last year. If you were not waiting for the dpf to burn, you were watiing for that sucker to pick a gear.

[351LTD]

Hino uses the Aisin Auto in the 300series

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by 351LTD

Hino uses the Aisin Auto in the 300series

You are indeed correct, may have been for the dual cab variation with 7500KG GVM - mentioned Allison 1000 trans in the reviews.

[351LTD]

Took both the Hino 721and Iveco 45c18 small trucks for a test drive today basically they are poles apart the Hino drives like a truck and the Iveco a car ,the iveco was very nice ,not sure now each would go with 200k on them.There is also a van option with the daily I am thinking about ,just as much payload and area as the truck with lower loading just no side loading like a truck .

[janddbone]

Like night and day.

Originally Posted by 351LTD

Took both the Hino 721and Iveco 45c18 small trucks for a test drive today basically they are poles apart the Hino drives like a truck and the Iveco a car ,the iveco was very nice ,not sure now each would go with 200k on them.There is also a van option with the daily I am thinking about ,just as much payload and area as the truck with lower loading just no side loading like a truck .

[hayseed]

Originally Posted by 351LTD

Took both the Hino 721and Iveco 45c18 small trucks for a test drive today basically they are poles apart the Hino drives like a truck and the Iveco a car ,the iveco was very nice ,not sure now each would go with 200k on them.There is also a van option with the daily I am thinking about ,just as much payload and area as the truck with lower loading just no side loading like a truck .

Everyone I know who runs IVECO Prime movers ALL pay the extra, for the extended Warranty....

[MercuryT]

Originally Posted by Tassie f100

Think Mr Plod would take a dim view of you towing a 4t caravan with either a Jeep or a Raptor

Well I missed that part.....

[351LTD]

Still waiting on quotes ,hard to get a cost on some of these vehicles, not sure if they are super busy or just can not be ---------.Anyone tow with a v8 Patrol?

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by 351LTD

Still waiting on quotes ,hard to get a cost on some of these vehicles, not sure if they are super busy or just can not be ---------.Anyone tow with a v8 Patrol?

Keep following them up, typical automotive industry no one ever gets back to anyone

[Swordie]

Originally Posted by 351LTD

Still waiting on quotes ,hard to get a cost on some of these vehicles, not sure if they are super busy or just can not be ---------.Anyone tow with a v8 Patrol?

Is it worth getting a light truck licence and get an up rated tow weight on an American ute like a RAM?

[Crazy Dazz]

Originally Posted by 351LTD

Took both the Hino 721and Iveco 45c18 small trucks for a test drive today basically they are poles apart the Hino drives like a truck and the Iveco a car ,the iveco was very nice ,not sure now each would go with 200k on them.There is also a van option with the daily I am thinking about ,just as much payload and area as the truck with lower loading just no side loading like a truck .

Umm...
I've kind of lost track of exactly WTAF you're after,
But you initially mentioned something about towing????

Forget about towing with an unladen truck, unless your whole plan is to wind up on compo.

Trucks are generally **** for towing anyway, but will get the job done provided you have enough weight on the rear axle(s).
I can't say for sure how much difference an (empty) van body makes, but at least that is some weight.

[tweeked]

I have a friend who tows horse floats daily. She wants to beef up the suspension - currently towing with a 2008ish Merc ML. She is worried about being taken to town by Pedders etc, anyone know of a good independent suspension place from Beaudesert to Southside Brisbane?

[smoo]

Originally Posted by tweeked

I have a friend who tows horse floats daily. She wants to beef up the suspension - currently towing with a 2008ish Merc ML. She is worried about being taken to town by Pedders etc, anyone know of a good independent suspension place from Beaudesert to Southside Brisbane?

It will have air suspension and be adequate for 3.5 tonne.
Putting the suspension into the sport setting firms up the ride and will make it more stable towing at max weight.

[DK30RB]

what about below.... don't want to consider an F150?

This one is good for 4T. Petrol V8
https://www.harrisonftrucks.com.au/a...-F150/24055217

This one is good for 4.5T. Petrol TT V6 3.5
https://www.harrisonftrucks.com.au/a...-F150/21945539

Can vouch for the v8. Stepped into my Platinum to replace my 2019 200 series. Massive step up and uses less fuel.....

[Tassie f100]

Originally Posted by DK30RB

what about below.... don't want to consider an F150?

This one is good for 4T. Petrol V8
https://www.harrisonftrucks.com.au/a...-F150/24055217

This one is good for 4.5T. Petrol TT V6 3.5
https://www.harrisonftrucks.com.au/a...-F150/21945539

Can vouch for the v8. Stepped into my Platinum to replace my 2019 200 series. Massive step up and uses less fuel.....

Geez the V8 petrol is pretty pricy for a secondhand Yank compared to the Patrol petrol or diesel Toyota

[351LTD]

Would love too,just the cost is up there and no business to hang it off either ,have looked around for the step below second hand maybe 16 to 18 but can only seem to find older ones 01 to 06 with heaps of kms and they will be a big gamble for me (never had any luck that way)they seem to sell quickly ? Also at 64 it needs to last awhile so happy to pay for something like a 150/250 That will serve me well until I can tow no more!!

[tweeked]

Originally Posted by smoo

It will have air suspension and be adequate for 3.5 tonne.
Putting the suspension into the sport setting firms up the ride and will make it more stable towing at max weight.

Its actually an 06 - looks like a pov pack model, just sent me a pic of the centre console and has blank buttons where the air suspension button is (no arrow up under pic of car button)

So i guess she would be looking at uprating steel springs and dampers for towing?

[DK30RB]

Originally Posted by Tassie f100

Geez the V8 petrol is pretty pricy for a secondhand Yank compared to the Patrol petrol or diesel Toyota

Not sure why is says used - buy they are both new with 27 and 73 delivery km on them.

Prices are a little high at the moment due to covid.

Get on the landcruiser buy swap sell facebook page - good for a laugh.
3 year old Saharas with over 100,000km are asking $120k or more!!!! insane

Used VX Landcruisers 3 to 4 years old over $100k......

New Sahara's asking well over the F150 prices here.....

Platinum is better equiped - Car play, Android Auto, massage seats, electric steps, better tow capacity, more power, electric adjustable pedals, stop and go cruise, phone app to remote start and operate the car etc etc list goes on.

Having said all that, the new 300 should be great, and probably better than the 200 - only issue is, due to covid madness on prices, people are conditioned to pay more. I'm betting a Sahara new will be RRP around $150k

[Tassie f100]

Yeah think there are going to be some very upset 200 buyers when the new model comes out and secondhand prices go back to where they should be

[sr71]

Originally Posted by 351LTD

Currently have a D max and 2800kg Caravan but looking to get Bigger Van(3200 to 3500kgs)in near future ,Living in Caravan full time with House Rented Out So Looking at Replacing the D Max.A few side issues,Still work full time, Only want one vehicle if possible,Also have 80 Ltd 393 which will also be sold to fund Tow Tug,Needs to have something special factor(so no 200s) and 8 cylinders would be bonus.Have looked at most things but its hard to tick all my boxes.Any ideas???

Epic thread! Sorry if it’s already been mentioned. How about going 5th wheel and gooseneck trailer? Falcon ute could nearly do the job. V8 too, if you engineered the GVM up, with rated wheels and suspension. Stock 1 tonne FG ute will tow a 3 tonne trailer, with a 5 wheel hitch.
Ram truck seems to tick plenty of boxes. New model soon, so runout saving coming, or be the first to have one.

[351LTD]

Be interesting if the prices do come down when the 300 comes out or the fact that there is no v8 option may keep the second hand price up,also will the faithful trade there v8 in for the new 6 or maybe 4 we will see ? My timing is all wrong with the dmax kms increasing along with the cost and availability of most things,maybe just keep driving it for ever!!!

[XR Martin]

Can't see the V8 cruiser losing desirability, look at the value of the old turbo 6s in the 100 series.
Still see the last ones advertised for $50k.

[gaz084]

We have just bought a ssangyong musso,it has 3500t towing and a 1t payload for the tub with the leaf springs,its 890kg rated for the 5 link coil suspension.

https://ssangyong.com.au/models/musso/

They are great value for what you get from the south korean car manufacturer and good owners reviews.

We paid $42,000 for the musso ultimate xlv,its a big ute 100mm shorter than the dodge ram.

The high strength steel that they use in there chassis is what gives it the 3.5t towing capabilities.

on the highway it sits on anywhere between 7.4l/100 to 9l/100 and around 10-11 in town.

we towed a 2.7t caravan back from ballina to sydney and it went very well the fuel economy was between 15-16l/100.

with the cruise control on,the biggest hill slowed the ute down 15km under set speed limit.

[gaz084]

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[351LTD]

Yes looked a them at the Iveco agent when I went there,they look ok ,not sure on the 120kw 2l ,ok I suspect for up to 2.7t towing but same problems as the other dualcabs when you get over that,may be a replacement for the Isuzu with the grey set now that's increased in price .

[XR Martin]

Interior is flash in the Ssangyong (probably best of all) , but their durability leaves alot to be desired. Dealer network is pretty thin on the ground also.

[Pis-ton broke]

go and get a company car, my dad used to say, company cars can do anything and go anywhere. its true.