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Personally I think they are selfish, let him go peacefully if he still hasn't improved.
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It really is no one else's business as to their decisions surrounding his care and hope for recovery, or even just to keep him alive. No one knows the real story.
Some of us just like to keep track of the little snippets of news, and personally I cling on to those little snippets of hope.
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Everyone has their own personal opinion on the matter and what they would prefer if they were in the unfortunate position that this family is in. The fact is though they aren't, and the Schumacher family are, so in all respect towards them we all should respect their decision on the matter and just hope and pray as the family are doing, and if and when they do decide it's time to say goodbye, well once again we should respect their decision. But one thing is for sure, we should thank god that we less mortal's are not in their position and having to make the call or deal with this heart ache as I sure as hell would not like to be in their shoes. |
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What makes you think they are selfish? It maybe Michael's wish to keep going.
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moving to where more experimental treatments are legal. i.e. stem cells.
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My wife died recently and we had talked on a few occasions in recent years about being kept alive by a machine or would we rather be allowed to be let go. She’s became sick early this year and had a few hospital episodes in quick succession and during one she was told by the hospital staff her chances of survival were very small but they could keep her body alive with help from drugs and machines and she told them that’s the last thing she ever wanted. As it was she pulled through on that occasion and we then went about ensuring our personal affairs were legally in order in case the worst was to happen. A few months later she was rushed to hospital again and as she deteriorated and became unconscious the family and I were informed there was no way she could survive on her own and would never gain any quality of life and the hospital had on record from an earlier visit her wishes were not to be kept alive with machines. As I had Enduring Power of Attorney and for those of you that don’t know the difference it’s not the same as Power of Attorney, it allowed me to legally make the decision she wanted and have all medication stopped, the machines turned off and she was given high doses of morphine to help with the pain as she slipped away. Even though I legally had the power to make this decision I of course consulted with the rest of the family before doing so. So who knows what Michael Schumacher and his family have decided over the years. Given that he participated in a very dangerous sport I’m sure these questions would have been discussed at length and maybe the family are following his wishes. For all you people that don’t have Enduring Power of Attorneys sorted out make sure the next time you do a will you get the solicitors to do it as well. It means you get what you want done and sometimes that can make the decision your family has to make so much easier to live with. I know for me that as hard as the decision was, I take comfort in knowing it was the one my wife wanted. . |
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Thanks for your post Express.
All the best to you and condolense's mate and your family....... Spot on, its up to the couple full stop and many don't discuss this TUFFest "challenge" till its too late..... Thanks about the Enduring POA tip. I take my hat off to Schumi's wife very much, whatever they had discussed when he was in normal condition or not she also must love this man veryvery much and clinging to the "miracle" for she probably has had the chance countless times in discussion with the specialists - you know what, enough is enough lets let him RIP. Lord knows what hers/his life is like but its still got something I guess. Amazing to think about this circumstance - yet us typical humans can't help but wonder why. When its not in your house you can't relate.
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Thanks for the condolences, as a family we are still somewhat in shock and deeply in mourning.
These situations are awful and because there is so much emotion involved the last thing you ever want to do is let go of someone you love regardless of their wishes or even if your head tells you it’s the right thing to do. So it is a sensible topic to bring up with your families and finalise legally while you have the chance. Our ordeal was quick but it was over a few months which at least gave us some time to prepare the legal side of things, some people don’t get that chance, for some you’re here one day and gone the next. There are members on this forum who are more equipped to give legal advice than me as what I have to say is only as someone who has just gone through it. So seek professional advice when planning your affairs. We already had wills and general Powers of Attorney in place but it wasn’t until my wife became ill that an elderly relative informed us of the need for the Enduring Power of Attorney and that sent us off to a solicitor for legal advice. Also and this wasn’t in our case but it something that happen last year to a friend of ours whose husband died young. His employer deposited her husband’s salary into her husband’s personal bank account and it had accumulated and grown over the years to a substantial sum and was their only source of income. Because the account was only in his name it was suspended until probate was finalised leaving her without access to funds. If that salary had been either deposited or regularly transferred to a joint account it would have instantly become hers and falls outside any will. And I guess most of you know the same goes for property where joint ownership on the title deeds means the property automatically goes to the surviving spouse, de facto or partner and also falls outside of the will. Of course the old saying that where there’s a will there’s a relative always applies and everything is contestable but to do the best you can for your spouses and partners it’s best to start early not later when later can be too late. . |
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as the eldest of two siblings who have now lost both parents I can tell you the probate issue is a real one and time frames given for it to pass can be misleading. in my case my brother and I are extremely close so the "relative contesting the will" issue that sadly arises following the death of a close relative is not relevant in my situation.
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Touching comments allegedly from “family members” of the star suggest he weeps when he sees beautiful scenery from his window.
https://www.news.com.au/sport/sports...a%E2%80%99s%20 . |
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Sounds like he is unable to communicate.
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yer I read about this before - so friggin sad no matter who you are but you got to wonder.
He or any of us in that position would wish to be gone ? or some people just want to keep hanging on for all we know. Or is it the family not wanting to let go ? Its so hard to fathom tbh. When your that good at something and worse in such a dangerous game and the results you achieved must be torture in his mind. I hurt about this.
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All anyone knows is what is leaked or reported to the media. I'm happy for him to still be in this world.
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I’ve been through something similar to this recently with my wife and I can say for myself and my family the last thing you ever want to do is let go, you want to hold on to a piece of them forever regardless of the emotional cost. The medical professionals told us keeping her alive was futile and we could see the logic of that but that didn’t waver us as we still wanted to hold on but we couldn’t as we knew her expressed wishes were not to exist like that and support was turned off. I can’t talk for Schumacher and his family as I don’t know them, nor do I know anything about his real condition, I can only talk for myself and it’s not something I’d wish for myself regardless of what my family wants or if they feel incapable of letting go. Just an opinion as I understand we all think differently on issues like this because life is precious but so is the quality of it. . |
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https://www.news.com.au/sport/motors...094b036826a01c
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I don't know how much truth is in this article
https://www.news.com.au/sport/motors...5f2c329b13dddd
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Five years since Michael's unfortunate accident.
#keepfighting
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Watching Hockenheim the other night Mick Jnr drove Dads F2004.
I was rapted seeing this occur at the time. Sounded great ! memories ![]() https://www.gpfans.com/en/articles/4...at-hockenheim/ Forza MS.
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It is clear from the latest statements that Michael is still in a vegetative state. Sad.
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following the previous article, here is some more 'news'
https://www.news.com.au/sport/motors...028983bbe24bb4
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25 years ago today - his first World title
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