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EXTERIOR - YES | 172 | 46.11% | |
EXTERIOR - NO | 189 | 50.67% | |
INTERIOR - YES | 273 | 73.19% | |
INTERIOR - NO | 93 | 24.93% | |
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10-02-2013, 09:16 PM | #331 | ||
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Some nice improvements here, the largest being the interior/tech upgrades. The images certainly convey an effort to bring the interior up a few cogs in quality terms so will be good to see one in the flesh. The exterior has lost a lot of the original VE aggression but if exporting to the US was going to be a success, they had to consider how the design would translate to that market. The proportions carried over from VE are still a strong point compared to FG. Not totally convinced about the new front and rear ends. I like the lower half of the front end but for me, the headlight and grill design has a little too much height. The use of aluminium should improve both economy and handling considering the change in weight distribution. Sales figures are going to be interesting considering the retention of drivetrains. Guess we'll find out how much of the "lack of tech" in our locals has driven people away. Unfortunately I still think the general public concensus of SUV flexibility and the often misguided "gas guzzler" tag will be harder to shake. The 2014 falcon has a huge challenge. But so does VF really.
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10-02-2013, 09:24 PM | #333 | ||
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The tech upgrades certainly are lifting the bar for a domestic product. It will be interesting to see what the price points for the range are on release. Depending on price it will certainly have potential to shake up the segment. Also if they can create a profitable niche and maintain exports, there might be a future for Commodore as a RWD vehicle beyond this upgrade.
This will certainly mean Ford and Toyota will need to compete harder; luckily for Ford they have some time to evaluate and meet the challenge with the 2014 falcon. Will be interesting to see what they were anticipating and have planned. |
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10-02-2013, 09:30 PM | #334 | ||
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It does nothing for me exterior wise. rear end looks a camry. and i don't like the interior definitely wouldn't buy one
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10-02-2013, 09:33 PM | #335 | |||
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I can't wait to see it in V8SC guise with the end plate wing design. |
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10-02-2013, 10:09 PM | #336 | ||
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EXTERIOR one thing that's a positive is it looks smaller on the exterior. Doesn't look to bad...but its the top of the line so it should look smick. Seeing the base model will be interesting. LOVE the wheels
INTERIOR Looks great...and seems to be a good step up in tech.....BUT SO IT SHOULD. And I see no reason in this day and age why the competition cant keep up with whats really a few simple additions (besides the obvious looks and quality of course). Really not a fan of the swede dash...or the cheap steering wheel buttons OVERALL....very good but certainly not a hard benchmark for the competition. Could and probably will be make or break with the drivetrains. |
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10-02-2013, 10:10 PM | #337 | ||
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What size wheels are these? They look really big for a Calais.
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10-02-2013, 10:12 PM | #338 | |||
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Either way though its looks like a cruze. May be softening style to ease us into the future "commodrore".
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10-02-2013, 10:16 PM | #339 | |||
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I didn't like the exterior much when I first saw it but I feel it looks much better in the red and darker colours. The interior looks excellent in the dark trim. Don't know if it has been posted, but more pics here... http://theage.drive.com.au/photogall...210-2e64k.html Has anyone noticed the old school door locks on the doors? Last edited by naddis01; 10-02-2013 at 10:25 PM. |
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10-02-2013, 10:19 PM | #340 | ||
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The pic above is the first one I have seen that doesn't look like a massaged VE, it actually looks like a new body shape.
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10-02-2013, 10:27 PM | #341 | |||
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10-02-2013, 10:30 PM | #342 | |||
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The side-on picture someone posted looks HORRIBLE. VE doors and different front and rear end that just dont fit. No congruence with the styling. Crap.
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10-02-2013, 10:34 PM | #344 | ||
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G6E Turbo rims standard on Calais???
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10-02-2013, 10:36 PM | #345 | |||
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EDIT: That above pic really illustrates how dated and bland the VE looks. I wasn't sure on the rear tail lights, but compared to the VE they look 150% better. |
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10-02-2013, 10:37 PM | #346 | ||
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The red one is a v8 it has the lip spoiler! Very nice, I like the VF a lot.
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10-02-2013, 10:38 PM | #347 | ||
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Going by the SS in the background the SS-V will continue with clear taillights.
And notice the SS dash also. |
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10-02-2013, 10:39 PM | #348 | ||
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10-02-2013, 10:46 PM | #349 | |||
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I must admit that many cars these days I see on the road, I cannot easily identify because of the similar rear ends. This will be another. |
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10-02-2013, 10:46 PM | #350 | ||
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I'd say the VL Calais was an aggressive looking car.
I recall people said the same thing about the BA.
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10-02-2013, 10:56 PM | #351 | ||
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10-02-2013, 11:03 PM | #352 | ||
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Just noticed on the Holden site they have an edited video of todays reveal and they have added a fake applause track to the moment the VF is revealed. If you saw the live feed its apparent, especially when Mike speaks at the podium and the applause conveniently just mutes for him in a very unrealistic way. Sounds like they got another audio grab from a camera at the event, boosted it and layered it over the original sound track of what actually was going on. Apparently the audience wasn't suitably enthused enough!
They have also reframed the shot of the front rows in the audience when the car was revealed so you can't see as many of the audience and there reaction and if they are clapping and used a filter to make them more in profile. Now you cant see their arms or the fact the level of applause isn't coming from them. They have also muted Mike so you can't hear he was basically clapping on his own with just some polite and all too short applause and I think one or two whistles form the Holden guys in the crowd. I remember thinking it wasn't a great welcome from the crowd for such an important car to them. they have also added more fake applause that mutes all too suddenly when the designer is introduced (Andrew). http://www.holden.com.au/pages/new-commodore Some of the applause was in the video streamed, but it has definitely been "Holden enhanced to go better". Holden definitely know marketing. ;) |
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10-02-2013, 11:10 PM | #353 | ||
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88 members viewing a Holden thread on a Ford forum...still doesn't wow me as much as the new VF.
Looks to have some BMW/Mazda rear styling which I have always liked.
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Poll needs a 'not sold on exterior yet' option. Last edited by naddis01; 10-02-2013 at 11:21 PM. |
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10-02-2013, 11:17 PM | #355 | ||
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10-02-2013, 11:18 PM | #356 | ||
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I would say the 20" wheels will be a Calais V thing only, they may even be an option and not standard. Holden have a few optional 20" wheels which is something that us Ford fans are not used to having :|
The SS dash looks great. Wonder of the light section on the dash is still suede or leather? Looks like the top of dash cluster is leather with red stitching also. VF looks very premium, hopefully they don't ask stupid money for them. |
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10-02-2013, 11:21 PM | #357 | ||
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Doesn't do much for me but I've got that feeling it will crush the falcon this year!
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10-02-2013, 11:25 PM | #358 | ||
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i like the rear end treatment, the old rear end sort of i always pictured the designers going "where will we put the tail lights"? " i know well just plonk them on the corners , it`s cheap that way".
all in all it looks a pretty effort on the new commy . |
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10-02-2013, 11:27 PM | #359 | ||
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10-02-2013, 11:45 PM | #360 | ||
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I read that the show car wheels are 20s. The real car (Calais V) will have 19s as standard. I also doubt that the real car will sit that low.
(They have stanced that show car very well IMO) I'm liking the exterior more and more. Curious how the SS will look.
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