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Old 09-11-2016, 11:05 PM   #361
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just so the people dont get enraged yes i know it wasnt a true story [removed]
Sorry, just so I'm clear again...

Was your whole 'discussion' tonight made up?
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i thought i was doing a pretty good impression of trump with rambling sentences that make no sense followed by fear that someone might be drunk but is really just a ******* idiot but now hes in charge of a first class military
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Wow. A couple of things in my head.

1. This will test democracy, will be interesting to see how the system bends him. Sure he will flap his trap but I am tipping he will do a Turnbul. If it was a dictatorship then my feelings would be the opposite.

2. I find it depressing how our financial markets are so fragile. The guy is not elected and potentially billions are written down...wtf. I find that rather pathetic to be honest.
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Dow to drop 800+ points tomorrow.

Maybe, but it will come up again rapidly.

The Australian market was down over a 100 points today ! Silly !

What Australian listed company has any reduced earnings because of the US election ?

Share market, does not take much to frighten it.

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Wow. A couple of things in my head.

1. This will test democracy, will be interesting to see how the system bends him. Sure he will flap his trap but I am tipping he will do a Turnbul. If it was a dictatorship then my feelings would be the opposite.

2. I find it depressing how our financial markets are so fragile. The guy is not elected and potentially billions are written down...wtf. I find that rather pathetic to be honest.
On point 2, it just goes to show that the markets are nothing but confidence games.
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They are driven on greed and fear.
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Trump being elected was our Brexit outrage vote. The elites have been running the US into the ground for decades .

The establishment of the democratic and republican parties are rotten to the core and I voted for Trump because I'm fed up and want to see both parties burned to the ground.

Another thing , the media has been on the side of the Clinton campaign from day one , the polls they have been showing for months have been rigged to show her leading because they have been acting as the PR arm of the campaign instead of journalists.

I live in a state , Massachusetts , which votes democrat in every election and did that again last night but driving around this democrat leaning area there has been no visible support for Clinton. No signs on any lawns and there were Obama signs everywhere in the last 2 elections.

She is disliked for her corruption, her moral ambiguity, and for sucking up to the rich .

Americans are tired of perpetual war in the middle east and she talked about setting up a no fly zone in Syria like it was a good idea. Any idiot can see that if we shot down a Russian plane over Syria we would be careening towards a potential WW3 . Russia has nukes and they are weaker than the US so if they felt that there was danger of the US attacking they may have felt the need to launch first.

The idea that the world could be destroyed over regime change in Syria is insane.
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Trump being elected was our Brexit outrage vote. The elites have been running the US into the ground for decades .

The establishment of the democratic and republican parties are rotten to the core and I voted for Trump because I'm fed up and want to see both parties burned to the ground.

Another thing , the media has been on the side of the Clinton campaign from day one , the polls they have been showing for months have been rigged to show her leading because they have been acting as the PR arm of the campaign instead of journalists.

I live in a state , Massachusetts , which votes democrat in every election and did that again last night but driving around this democrat leaning area there has been no visible support for Clinton. No signs on any lawns and there were Obama signs everywhere in the last 2 elections.

She is disliked for her corruption, her moral ambiguity, and for sucking up to the rich .

Americans are tired of perpetual war in the middle east and she talked about setting up a no fly zone in Syria like it was a good idea. Any idiot can see that if we shot down a Russian plane over Syria we would be careening towards a potential WW3 . Russia has nukes and they are weaker than the US so if they felt that there was danger of the US attacking they may have felt the need to launch first.

The idea that the world could be destroyed over regime change in Syria is insane.
You're forgetting one thing: the elites are still running the US into the ground. I've mentioned it before and I'll mention it again, if Trump carries out his plans and ideas, he'll have a clip of 50 cal rounds with his name on it.

The military industrial complex Eisenhower warned the world about 50 odd years ago is so deeply entrenched within the power structures of the US, they would kill anyone that threatened their hegemony. Worse still is should he perish the thought, want real financial reform, he'd be in the sights of the banking elite.
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In that case I ask how is the rest of the world "right"?
This is a real threat and would have far reaching implications, the criminal world have a lot, and I mean a lot to lose by Trump being in power, what he has said he will do with criminals takes balls and you see this as a bad thing?
I didn't say it was a bad thing.

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How many Jews has Donald Trump killed? How many muslims has Donald Trump killed, he hasn't killed any, in fact Barack Obama and Hilary Clinton have killed a lot of muslims with their failed policies in the Middle East, Donald Trump hasn't killed a single person.
Mate, that's just a stupid response. Of course Trump hasn't killed anyone...yet. But then again neither did Hitler until he came to power.

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So, in this sentence you agree his ideas are Hitler like? I don't know if you are just trying to be combative but nowhere did I state or refer to Muslims and ID tags.

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Trump is one person I wouldn't want as the leader of my country and I don't consider him a strong leader. He leads by being a bully and has a well documented history of failed businesses, been bankrupt several times, belittles women, slanders foreigners, etc, etc, etc. If that is what good, strong leadership is about, I'm grateful I'm not American.
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Congress effectively runs the US. Republicans held the majority in the senate pre-Trump and will still do so post Obama.

The crap spun by both H and T during the campaign mean nothing now. It was all about getting in office.

Markets are already settling. Nothing major will change, except for the previously made comment about comb overs being in and beards out! ;)
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I'm reading about how the pollsters failed so miserably regarding Trump and thought to myself, they didn't fail. Their "polling" was agenda driven and skewed to the back teeth to make it look like there was no support for Trump. I've always been suspicious of any poll even when there's no bias or shenanigans, simply because the sample size is far too small.

What is even scarier... many moons ago, Michael Moore called it pretty much to the letter:

http://michaelmoore.com/trumpwillwin/
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I'm reading about how the pollsters failed so miserably regarding Trump and thought to myself, they didn't fail. Their "polling" was agenda driven and skewed to the back teeth to make it look like there was no support for Trump. I've always been suspicious of any poll even when there's no bias or shenanigans, simply because the sample size is far too small.

What is even scarier... many moons ago, Michael Moore called it pretty much to the letter:

http://michaelmoore.com/trumpwillwin/

I had a read of it all and noted that he had 2 bob each way. At the end of section 5, he said he will write a piece detailing how Trump can be defeated !

This man, Michael Moore, is an ultra leftie by his own admissions.

A major item not talked about in this July 2016 in his 5 reasons is that a major issue with US voters was Clintons electoral statement that she wanted to increase Muslim immigration to the US by 500%.

If I was an American voter ( even a Democrat one ), I would not want to make the US like Europe at present, and vote appropriately.
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I'm reading about how the pollsters failed so miserably regarding Trump and thought to myself, they didn't fail. Their "polling" was agenda driven and skewed to the back teeth to make it look like there was no support for Trump. I've always been suspicious of any poll even when there's no bias or shenanigans, simply because the sample size is far too small.

What is even scarier... many moons ago, Michael Moore called it pretty much to the letter:

http://michaelmoore.com/trumpwillwin/
Reason no5 = Nail on head!

****, if i could have voted i would have done so for that very reason, to stick it up the establishment.
People are sick to death of being told who they should be, how they should act, what they can say etc. etc. and now they have spoken up with a well extended middle finger.

Its funny, im sitting here watching a particular demographic protesting that they didnt get their own way largely due to the fact they didnt turn up and vote for it, all the while arguing with my 16yr old Daughter over her wanting to get her own way without putting in any effort to achieve it.

She tells me Trump is a sexist pig, but when i told her 50% of white women voted for him she asked "what do you want me to do about it"...i think the irony was lost on her.
Young people these days are out of touch with reality, they want everything to be they way they envision it, but wont put in any effort to get it.
Spoilt brats at best!

Pauline gets my vote next time, with a largely extended middle finger to both Turnbull and Shorten.
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The proof is out there for all to see now, that the mass media is a monster that does not respect a healthy democracy.

The education system is just so corrupt brainwashing people and hell bent making people fear anything that is not there Marxist or left wing degenerate dribble, our young uni and school kids are encouraged to reject the rights of a healthy democracy and they act like Nazis rejecting others rights to an opinion.

All the dribble we hear about white mid age male is just insane full on prejudice beyond belief, spun by narrow and simple minded sub educated narrow minded dipsticks who can't see the big picture at all.
Just mention the problem of dealing with Sin and this mob of deranged drongos reject this comprehension straight out right. Communist ! and the extreme right wing people are total deranged radical ratbags who work to lead all others astray, for their hell bent depraved hold over all others and It's the radical nuts like so that have enslaved people all through history.

Political correctness never saved anyone.
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How is it sticking it to the establishment if you voted for the Republican candidate this time?

The funny thing is Clinton actually got more votes than Trump but lost the election.
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****, if i could have voted i would have done so for that very reason, to stick it up the establishment.
People are sick to death of being told who they should be, how they should act, what they can say etc. etc. and now they have spoken up with a well extended middle finger.

Its funny, im sitting here watching a particular demographic protesting that they didnt get their own way largely due to the fact they didnt turn up and vote for it, all the while arguing with my 16yr old Daughter over her wanting to get her own way without putting in any effort to achieve it.

She tells me Trump is a sexist pig, but when i told her 50% of white women voted for him she asked "what do you want me to do about it"...i think the irony was lost on her.
Young people these days are out of touch with reality, they want everything to be they way they envision it, but wont put in any effort to get it.
Spoilt brats at best!

Pauline gets my vote next time, with a largely extended middle finger to both Turnbull and Shorten.
Talking with mates of mine and they say the same as you, that they are dealing with there children not respecting there views and the kid wants to be in control like a little ignorant Nazi, spinning crap that's been drummed into them from school.

That type of crap happened in Nazi Germany and it got that bad that the kids would dob in there mum or dad as being an enemy of the State for crying out loud and if we keep going like we are with Political Correctness, that type of rubbish is on the cards for sure.

I don't think Pauline is the answer but we need conservative centre party to keep the radical right and left PC rat bags at bay.
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How is it sticking it to the establishment if you voted for the Republican candidate this time?

The funny thing is Clinton actually got more votes than Trump but lost the election.

California is the answer !

It has a population of around 40 million the last time I looked.

She won this left leaning state easily and hence accumulated a lot of votes.

She got the 55 Electoral college votes for this. So her margin and number of votes do not matter.

For those of us who can remember back to 1998, Kim Beasley got 51% of the national vote and lost the Federal election. The big win in safe Labor seats caused this anomaly.
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Seems the majority of vocal members on here, and the US, have gotten what they wanted. Congratulations.

I hope for the world's sake the Trump Administration is not a destructive one; socially, economically, & environmentally. Let's see where we end up...
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Well let's see where we are a couple of months from now. He talked a lot of **** to get the votes but can he or will he deliver anything is the next question.

Republicans own both houses so should not be hard at all to do anything assuming they get onside which is not a guarantee at all.

This next four years will be important. Either he flops and everyone runs back to the establishment, or he turns out to be more of the same, or he does well and it scares the **** out of every government in the world.

If his victory speech was anything to go by it will be positive but it smells like someone else writing that for him. Very against his grain.
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