Epic Wins: car related

[nstg8a]

Originally Posted by morziac

yeh fair enough, as with all these sorts of things it was/still is a work in progress. the scoop came off a matt black cortina which it suited very well , was put on the hilux purely for fuctionality. The rubber flares were there just to keep the cops off my back, cos u cant buy proper flares wide enough lol and a newer sutom gril is on the cards, just needed to knock something up to put on there cos the standard one wouldnt go back on after cutting out the radiator support to fit a big 3 core landcruiser one to keep the V8 cool

what v8 are you running?

fully understand the flares, i had the same issue on my surf back in nz, but i got away with none at all, but i had the bunnings flares ready to go if the cops had a whinge lol.

[morziac]

Originally Posted by nstg8a

what v8 are you running?

fully understand the flares, i had the same issue on my surf back in nz, but i got away with none at all, but i had the bunnings flares ready to go if the cops had a whinge lol.

Holden 253 all engineered and licensed for it , its the biggest v8 we can legally put in a hilux here in WA

[xy500]

Originally Posted by morziac

Holden 253 all engineered and licensed for it , its the biggest v8 we can legally put in a hilux here in WA

.... sorry to say it but you'd have been better off with a 250 than a 253...

well sort of any way
glad to hear there is some actual plans for it, rather than the constant work in progress beaten up old hiluxes i've seen around

[morziac]

Originally Posted by xy500

.... sorry to say it but you'd have been better off with a 250 than a 253...
well sort of any way
glad to hear there is some actual plans for it, rather than the constant work in progress beaten up old hiluxes i've seen around

way too long for the engine bay, plus any conversion gear like mounts and bellhousng would have to be custom made which costs a lot more, ya can get 253 conersion gear straight off the shelf.

and dont worry i got big plans for it once i get my cortina out of the shed

[nstg8a]

Originally Posted by morziac

way too long for the engine bay, plus any conversion gear like mounts and bellhousng would have to be custom made which costs a lot more, ya can get 253 conersion gear straight off the shelf.

and dont worry i got big plans for it once i get my cortina out of the shed

isnt a 253 visually identical to a 308? easy extra power/cubes and no one has to know...

[04redxr8]

Originally Posted by nstg8a

isnt a 253 visually identical to a 308? easy extra power/cubes and no one has to know...

Ummmmmmmmmmmm yeah, engine number perhaps???

[351@GT]

253 block and drop whatever crank in you want.

[04redxr8]

Originally Posted by 351@GT

253 block and drop whatever crank in you want.

IIRC that does not work.

[morziac]

Originally Posted by nstg8a

isnt a 253 visually identical to a 308? easy extra power/cubes and no one has to know...

hehe shhh ;)

[In Focus]

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[huggiebear]

fixed link

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[In Focus]

Originally Posted by huggiebear

fixed link

http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/...RankSort_Int32

Thanks, Huggiebear. Don't know why it does that...

[jlef5]

[huggiebear]

Originally Posted by jlef5

the fabric doesnt look right. looks like they just slapped it together. i done this one 8-9 years ago

[93EB_SXR6]

Originally Posted by xy500

.... sorry to say it but you'd have been better off with a 250 than a 253...

well sort of any way
glad to hear there is some actual plans for it, rather than the constant work in progress beaten up old hiluxes i've seen around

In what world would a 250 be a better engine choice than a 253?
I'd take the V8 over the 6 any day.
That being said, I'm definitely not a fan of the 250s, never have been, never will be.
I put them in the same "over rated" category as the 202.

I now have my flame suit on, so fire away.

[Fled74]

Originally Posted by jlef5

That's just a bit racist, and not funny.
This, however...

...is very funny, and is the definition of "WIN".

[xy500]

Originally Posted by Professor_Evans

In what world would a 250 be a better engine choice than a 253?
I'd take the V8 over the 6 any day.
That being said, I'm definitely not a fan of the 250s, never have been, never will be.
I put them in the same "over rated" category as the 202.

I now have my flame suit on, so fire away.

no need for a flame suit,
it'd be a personal preference thing i guess anyway.
I look at it this way though, they are practically the same size engine. But the characteristics of the 250 are more suited to 4wding than a 253 as the 250 has better low down torque, with its over square stroke. depending on how you set them up. So you're getting a better performing engine. (It's not all about max hp at 10,000 revs with 4wd's)
The 250 is by far a more reliable engine also, far less prone to overrev damage and much cheaper in parts and replacements. Then there is the benefits of how much easier they are to work on. All straight engines are a godsend when you have to get the spanner out.
That'd be the first time i have heard a straight 6 called over rated.

[93EB_SXR6]

Originally Posted by xy500

no need for a flame suit,
it'd be a personal preference thing i guess anyway.
I look at it this way though, they are practically the same size engine. But the characteristics of the 250 are more suited to 4wding than a 253 as the 250 has better low down torque, with its over square stroke. depending on how you set them up. So you're getting a better performing engine. (It's not all about max hp at 10,000 revs with 4wd's)
The 250 is by far a more reliable engine also, far less prone to overrev damage and much cheaper in parts and replacements. Then there is the benefits of how much easier they are to work on. All straight engines are a godsend when you have to get the spanner out.
That'd be the first time i have heard a straight 6 called over rated.

I have no problem with most I6 engines, I just really am not a fan of the 250. 253s are actually pretty gutsy little V8s and in my experience have had plenty of torque across the rev range... but I'm no expert.
I'm more a fan of the 4.0 I6 used in Falcons EB onwards, mainly because I have more experience working on them etc.
A couple of mates of mine have XBs and XCs with 250, one is cross flow, the other pre-cross flow... and they're both pretty gutless. I realise these are old engines but one has been rebuilt in the last 5 years or so.

[jlef5]

I saw a great win today for a personalised plate. Was on a Holden HSV something. Plate was (V8 2NV). Pretty clever I think.

[huggiebear]

clever? 2nv type plates have been around for ages.

[jlef5]

Originally Posted by huggiebear

clever? 2nv type plates have been around for ages.

First one I've seen.

[xy500]

Originally Posted by Professor_Evans

I have no problem with most I6 engines, I just really am not a fan of the 250. 253s are actually pretty gutsy little V8s and in my experience have had plenty of torque across the rev range... but I'm no expert.
I'm more a fan of the 4.0 I6 used in Falcons EB onwards, mainly because I have more experience working on them etc.
A couple of mates of mine have XBs and XCs with 250, one is cross flow, the other pre-cross flow... and they're both pretty gutless. I realise these are old engines but one has been rebuilt in the last 5 years or so.

you cant really compare a pre crossflow engine with a single barrel carb to a 253, completely different setup.
If you've had a play around on a properly set up 250 you'd sing a different tune (350 holley, alloy head, decent intake manifold, exhaust)
great engines, some of fords finest work! the tractability and reliability - even when they should have failed - is legendary.

[Thornie]

Originally Posted by nstg8a

isnt a 253 visually identical to a 308? easy extra power/cubes and no one has to know...

ill pulled that one when i was looking at buying a mates vb commo back when i was on my P's, my parents were going to pay for the car so i just told the old boy it was a 253 with 308 stamped rocker covers, glad he didn't test drive it and im glad it got written off a week later proberly would of killed myself in it.

[malazn mafia]

Originally Posted by XCwillo

How tall is this car? And it can be street-driven? Parking would be fun when you're in a hurry.. just park on top of the nearest Yaris or similar sized POS...

[BAGT514]

Originally Posted by nstg8a

not hilliers work, but still awesome.

Is this the one that was at Summernats?
Everyone walked past it thinking that it was a standard XR8. Including me...
A second look made you realise it had only 2 doors and looking at the work done to the doortrims, seals & the like it looked very very factory. Great job for those involved

[Polyal]

For those around Geelong I pulled up beside a Jag XJU.

I think I recall seeing it a few years ago, ill pop pics up tonight but lets see who can guess what it is? Old bloke owns it who i reckon did the work.

[Jim Goose]

Not so much a car fail but a driver fail today. At the traffic lights a 2pm, driver beside us opens his esky and grabs a can of XXXX. Oddly enough the make of car was...... talk about asking for trouble

[chrisfpv]

We need more wins in this thread!

[gtxb67]

Originally Posted by xy500

If you've had a play around on a properly set up 250 you'd sing a different tune (350 holley, alloy head, decent intake manifold, exhaust)
great engines, some of fords finest work! the tractability and reliability - even when they should have failed - is legendary.

with a 2v head on a 250 they are a very good engine

although you need very little work to have more power than a 253, comparing them to a 253 is not fair. when i started driving in the late 80's, a 250 was compared to a 202/186, the 302 was compared to the 253 and the 351 to the 308. the biggest engine was compared to the competitors biggest engine. plus holdens have traditionally been smaller, which meant it was fair to compare their smaller engine to fords larger one

[GTP 290]

Originally Posted by gtxb67

with a 2v head on a 250 they are a very good engine

although you need very little work to have more power than a 253, comparing them to a 253 is not fair. when i started driving in the late 80's, a 250 was compared to a 202/186, the 302 was compared to the 253 and the 351 to the 308. the biggest engine was compared to the competitors biggest engine. plus holdens have traditionally been smaller, which meant it was fair to compare their smaller engine to fords larger one

Funny how if you ask any holden nut they would compare a their 308 to fords 302 and it wouldn't be considered 'unfair' to compare to a different capacity, yet these days it's the other way around comparing fords 5.4 V8 to holdens 6.0, 6.3, and 7.0. Not to mention now that ford has dropped to a 5.0 and holden just keeps going bigger...