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Old 07-07-2020, 01:02 PM   #3961
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Little story - The old man was a town planner of the 1960s generation and they all marvelled at these new towers. Architects like Le Corbusier cried out that if Paris' slums were not cleared and replaced with these towers, revolution would occur!

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See post 3917, the architect admitted they made a mistake and from the 1980's on they simply purchased existing houses and refitted them for public housing. They also figured that the surrounding community was more likely to support single families doing it tough dispersed rather than 600 families all concentrated in a ghetto.
It was based on the UK public housing model, maximum floor space for minimal money....usually sited near manufacturing localities for the low socio-economic jobs.
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Now we know how Hong Kong feels atm.
Thank god we are still free to criticize the government. Cause it's feeling pretty good to do atm

Going back into lockdown is inevitable I think. Just hope they limit it to melbourne, and not drag all the covid free towns outside the capital with it. This is strictly a Melbourne problem.
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Hong Kong is a high density area but they have had very few cases. Whether you choose to call their citizens compliant or smart is up to you but many were wearing masks before their gov recommended it. A 99% compliance rate with mask wearing meant the lockdown was less restrictive and shorter than elsewhere.
Are you suggesting that because all HD areas didn't see high infection rates that it isn't a driver ?

There are many factors, but I think there is strong evidence that HD living is one. Look at distributions within countries and it's nearly always the densely populated areas that have the highest rates, at least initially.

But the overwhelming factor in NSW and VIC was bureaucratic/political incompetence. The broad settings were reasonable given the information to hand, but the details were spectacularly mishandled. From what we saw in the inquiry NSW health failed utterly and incredibly handling the cruise ship, while Victoria were equally incredible handling the quarantine.

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A US tv program did a story last week on cleanliness in upmarket hotels during the pandemic, seems like $600 a night doesn't guarantee clean sheets.

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The poor cleaning standards in US hotels has been a thing for a long time. Some of the stories are properly disgusting. New guests checking in to find REALLY disgusting beds etc...
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Victorian Number Plates need updating...

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Boss I think they will do the whole state. Reason why is school hols, Melbourne has just gone on holiday throughout the whole state.
191 cases today, confirmed by ABC - delayed media announcement, I think something big will be said pretty soon
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I always liked 'Victoria - Garden State', everything since seems just ego.
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87 new cases for Australia (mostly in Victoria) and 2 deaths so CMR rises to 1.235% and active cases rise to 1,060 (12.3%). It should be noted that the 6 cases attributed to SA yesterday were actually WA. Victoria is also already at 197 new cases thus far today and has set a new high for active cases with 645, surpassing the 622 recorded back on March 31st. It should be noted before the interstate rivalry starts again that this is still well below the NSW peak of 1,577 back in April and only about half the rate per 100k of population.

1 new cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.434% and active cases rise to 22.

The UK recorded 352 new cases and 16 deaths yesterday so the CMR drops to 15.48%.

Just over 54k new cases in the USA yesterday and 283 deaths sees CMR down to 4.434% and active cases down to 52.4% but the raw numbers are rising. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences.

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The USA passed 3M cases;
Libya (71), Uzbekistan (342), Venezuela (419), Algeria (463), Ghana (992) and Panama (1,185 today, 1,166 yesterday)recorded new daily highs, those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.
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I always liked 'Victoria - Garden State', everything since seems just ego.
The education state sucks.

Just look how well our highly educated leaders are going
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We were almost caught by the decision to close the VIC/NSW border earlier than originally planned for those living in the Greater Melbourne area as that closure took effect at midnight last night whereas for the rest of Victoria, the closure takes place from midnight tonight.

We had someone who was planning to travel from Melbourne to Sydney organised to transport something for a friend of theirs today but instead I drove up this morning and met them in Wodonga even though I could have crossed the border being outside the GMA. The 6 hour notice yesterday caused a bit of rapid planning and a little more time would have been nice.
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I've been getting stuck into Vics a bit but genuinely feel sorry about the news.

The Country is affected as a whole bit not at near same extent, so hope can get back on track asap.....
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Thank god we are still free to criticize the government. Cause it's feeling pretty good to do atm

Going back into lockdown is inevitable I think. Just hope they limit it to melbourne, and not drag all the covid free towns outside the capital with it. This is strictly a Melbourne problem.
Locking down all of Melbourne it seems as of 15 mins ago.
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Locking down all of Melbourne it seems as of 15 mins ago.
Minimum 6 weeks.....
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Good, Especially for us in country Victoria.
Gunna be quiet here near NSW closed border tomorrow.
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Good, Especially for us in country Victoria.
Gunna be quiet here near NSW closed border tomorrow.
Yeah mate well I hope it stays that way for others in the interem.

I know it's easy to point fingers but something is nqr about how this has rebounded so badly.

Poor leadership, people stupidity, protests, refusing testing, who knows. Maybe a combo of all in certain degrees
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With the lockdown over for most of you, how did you enjoy it?

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/off...ng-b881601149z

You can measure your... interests... against those of the following suburbs in the Love Honey lockdown hall of fame. (Coppers in Perth must be feeling pretty good about now...)
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Theres been recent cases of the Bubonic Plague in China its been reported.
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Good, Especially for us in country Victoria.
Gunna be quiet here near NSW closed border tomorrow.
Yep, and just keep an eye locally for the next couple of weeks as of the holiday travel, but this move could be very good to preserve the regions, their people and their hospital capacity.
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Yeah mate well I hope it stays that way for others in the interem.

I know it's easy to point fingers but something is nqr about how this has rebounded so badly.

Poor leadership, people stupidity, protests, refusing testing, who knows. Maybe a combo of all in certain degrees
Nothing is quite right about it.

The greater level of fear and panic compared to the real/actual mortality rate that doesn't add up in my opinion. Not compared to other diseases WITH a vaccine available.

It's hard to point a finger at any one area.
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Theres been recent cases of the Bubonic Plague in China its been reported.
Yes. Reports emerging in the last couple of days suggest a link to Marmot meat.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-...ncern/12428978


And that's not all. About a week ago, another virus with pandemic potential nicknamed "G4" discovered in China. Linked to swine flu.

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Yep, and just keep an eye locally for the next couple of weeks as of the holiday travel, but this move could be very good to preserve the regions, their people and their hospital capacity.
Yes, all the locals are keeping their distance from Out of Towner's as we have right from the start.
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Are you suggesting that because all HD areas didn't see high infection rates that it isn't a driver ?
You missed the point. Of course high density is a factor, Hong Kong overcame this by having a 99% compliance with mask wearing. If they managed to do it why couldn't other places? They didn't even have to wait for their gov to tell them what to do, they worked it out for themselves.
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This 'Victorian virus' needs a name. I think I shall call it... COVIC-20.

It'll probably spread Australia wide, and all other states will blame Victoria. When the truth of the matter is, they are probably in a similar situation - but did not test their people as much as Victoria has been doing. Easier to blame someone else.
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Yes. Reports emerging in the last couple of days suggest a link to Marmot meat.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-...ncern/12428978


And that's not all. About a week ago, another virus with pandemic potential nicknamed "G4" discovered in China. Linked to swine flu.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/spotlights/2...swine-flu.html
Wow... I'm shocked! So totally unexpected...
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Going to very interesting when borders reopen.

Tassie people are basically living as normal now as basically no risk of getting infected. Pubs are packed, no-one is adhering to distancing etc.

Would just need a NZ like idiotic border stuff up and the whole thing goes out the window.
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What a cluster****. Even with the border closing and restrictions imposed again there is a good chance that it has already been spreading elsewhere.

Apparently ACT still going ahead with reducing restrictions on Friday.

The next 2 weeks or so will be interesting.
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Tassie people are basically living as normal now



Geez, when did that happen ?
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Geez, when did that happen ? [/QUOTE]

Paradise here!

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Locking down all of Melbourne it seems as of 15 mins ago.
A bitter pill to swallow for us Mexicans again.
Kinda makes the previous stage 3 lockdown pain all a waste as we scramble to keep the numbers down again. People need to understand that we are in a control phase and it needs to be maintained until a vaccine. Easing restrictions seemed to be a license for everyone to go about their normal business with a lessened sense of safety. I just hope all the other states learn to manage their restriction strategy better than we did.

I’m off to find toilet paper now.... seems the moron hoard mentality is alive and well again. @)(;:!ck
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looks like the govt has changed its mind about face masks...suddenly they re a good idea...reduce transmission by 70%...blah blah blah

Oh...and the water droplets suddenly travel up to 8m now...so the 1.5-2m distancing is also BS


we are all stuffed.
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Why don't the State leaders just say that?
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