FG X, The Last EVER Falcon - Picture & Discussion Thread - Page 138

spyman03 · 10-06-2014, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Callum31

Looking good! Thanks Spyman you've done a terrific effort!

Hey,
If you want to run the white info on your page your more than welcome to upload them

And I can confirm that I think your spot on with the headlight treatment in the Xr8 mr callum31 the boys got a sketch from one of the official today at the GTF launch.

And from what was sent to me in a txt looks sim to what you've been banging on about

Good work

Spyman

Bossxr8 · 10-06-2014, 06:14 PM

Why, because Ford will use something similar to what Holden copied off 20 different other cars?

Nikked · 10-06-2014, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Why, because Ford will use something similar to what Holden copied off 20 different other cars?

Holden owner mentality...

Callum31 · 10-06-2014, 06:33 PM

G'day guys the first picture resembles a Falcon XR Prototype that Spyman took a photo of around December 2013 (I think). This I heard was before the unique XR Dual Hockey Stick looking DRL's were being made. Now they've been made it appears they are now on XR prototypes as the replacement of the dips under the light that the B series and FG series had. While the E series and Au had the rounded headlamp design to give it the XR look.

So it appears with the new model Ford are carrying on that tradition except using classy DRL's now. (Think Audi Style) with a neon look like the rear lights of the new Falcon.

In the teaser video Ford clearly made the Dual Hockey stick looking DRL's a main feature of the new Falcon.

Look in the middle pic and you can easily see the Dual DRL's which have already been revealed in the teaser (bottom pic). So Ford won't have to hide them like the G series ones (single strip) that was originally used on the XR prototypes as they hadn't been shown in the teaser vids, unlike the dual XR ones.

spyman03 · 10-06-2014, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Callum31

G'day guys the first picture resembles a Falcon XR Prototype that Spyman took a photo of around December 2013 (I think). This I heard was before the unique XR Dual Hockey Stick looking DRL's were being made. Now they've been made it appears they are now on XR prototypes as the replacement of the dips under the light that the B series and FG series had. While the E series and Au had the rounded headlamp design to give it the XR look.

So it appears with the new model Ford are carrying on that tradition except using classy DRL's now. (Think Audi Style) with a neon look like the rear lights of the new Falcon.

In the teaser video Ford clearly made the Dual Hockey stick looking DRL's a main feature of the new Falcon.

Look in the middle pic and you can easily see the Dual DRL's which have already been revealed in the teaser (bottom pic). So Ford won't have to hide them like the G series ones (single strip) that was originally used on the XR prototypes as they hadn't been shown in the teaser vids, unlike the dual XR ones.

Hey,

You are still comparing the xr6 image with the Xr8, I have that headlight fully uncovered and it's just a strip across the bottom and up the side.

Get ur penny's saved up they let it out today it's going to be good(xr8)

Spyman

Nikked · 10-06-2014, 06:42 PM

Is the red one a XR? Still looks like it has a diffuser for led's..., not the hooks... :-/

joeyy17 · 10-06-2014, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by spyman03

Hey,

You are still comparing the xr6 image with the Xr8 I have that headlight fully uncovered and it's just a strip across the bottom and up the side.

Get ur penny's saved up they let it out today it's going to be good(xr8)

Spyman

So they are releasing what the whole car will look like today?
Sorry if misinterpretation

spyman03 · 10-06-2014, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by joeyy17

So they are releasing what the whole car will look like today?
Sorry if misinterpretation

Hey,
One of the media guys armed with one of my pics at today's GTF launch asked a few questions about xr8,as it's the only one media are interest in.
and the reply was interesting,and one of the things that happened was we got a sketch of what the xr8 "could look like" and the sketch is along the lines of Callum's orange car

We should get a proper look late august

Spyman

spyman03 · 10-06-2014, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikked

Is the red one a XR? Still looks like it has a diffuser for led's..., not the hooks... :-/

Hey,

It's an g6 based car

Spyman

turbo4 · 10-06-2014, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by spyman03

hey,

based on the feedback I got today from the launch, I still say the XR8 with be the pick of the range when released

spyman

that actually looks alright, I was expecting the worst when they had the orange ones in the spyshots

Dr Smith · 10-06-2014, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikked

That's better then the Territory style flute that was speculated...gonna cop it though from Holden people...

I think anyone driving a new XR8 won't care, namely because nothing apart from a HSV is going to get near it whereas Holden cannot try to match it without stomping all over HSV toes...one benefit of no longer having FPV.

dragons90 · 10-06-2014, 07:00 PM

^^ make that only the GTS

LooLoo18 · 10-06-2014, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SensationFG8

I'm still going to be really surprised if the XR8 gets more than the GS spec 315 engine.

If it does get the full 335 tag I'd be surprised if it came in much under 60k.

Would anyone buy an XR8 for 60k?

SensationFG8 · 10-06-2014, 07:08 PM

LooLoo18 that's precisely why I dont think it will get the full GT spec engine/driveline/suspension.

I dont think there would be enough money in it for them if they do.

nstg8a · 10-06-2014, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by LooLoo18

Would anyone buy an XR8 for 60k?

People have been paying 60k for xr8s for many years.

Callum31 · 10-06-2014, 07:12 PM

Spyman, well what the hell is going on then??

Some have the dual hook DRL's and others don't.

This is really confusing!

FlipXW · 10-06-2014, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SensationFG8

LooLoo18 that's precisely why I dont think it will get the full GT spec engine/driveline/suspension.

I dont think there would be enough money in it for them if they do.

The cost for a 335 and a 315 engine would be exactly the same. Just different software everything else identical. Everything leads me to believe it will be 335. If not why not have an XR8 ute, it would sell in numbers close to the sedan IMO.

LooLoo18 · 10-06-2014, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by nstg8a

People have been paying 60k for xr8s for many years.

Shows how much I know

Trump · 10-06-2014, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SensationFG8

LooLoo18 that's precisely why I dont think it will get the full GT spec engine/driveline/suspension.

I dont think there would be enough money in it for them if they do.

There's more cream in the high spec cars than the entry level models. So anything is possible come November (or whenever the last Falcon goes on sale).

spyman03 · 10-06-2014, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Callum31

Spyman, well what the hell is going on then??

Some have the dual hook DRL's and others don't.

This is really confusing!

Hey,

That's why I don't put it out there until I've got the right info
But I've said your prob right that some of the early Xr6/8 prototypes are still using g6 spec headlights
I'm only showing you guys the over all look of the car,if it changes better for the buyer

Spyman

Nikked · 10-06-2014, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Callum31

Spyman, well what the hell is going on then??

Some have the dual hook DRL's and others don't.

This is really confusing!

Its just the prototype design process, the are out testing different ideas, seeing what works better, costs etc...

My guess is the spyman has seen a few different versions of the XR lights, could be 2 production ready examples and there is some last minute finessing going on.

There was pictures floating around of a alternate FG XR series bumper, one that was early suggested as the design by the press etc.

Ford could be still be deciding on the illuminated hook design for the XR's, versus others...

*edit, this is the alternate FG bar design, a prototype was spotted at DJR at one point...

Sloth · 10-06-2014, 07:39 PM

Those clear repeaters will make a nice little upgrade for owners SZ's and will probably make it onto the SZII

Nikked · 10-06-2014, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by FlipXW

The cost for a 335 and a 315 engine would be exactly the same. Just different software everything else identical. Everything leads me to believe it will be 335. If not why not have an XR8 ute, it would sell in numbers close to the sedan IMO.

Limited number of engines? Make more sense to capitalise on higher priced sedan, rather then a traditionally cheaper ute, more profit. Total XR8 production was hinted at between 3500-4000, now if that is projected, there would only be a specific number of componentry on order. Ford are closing down operations, so there will be a wind down of operations, and Ford won't want to be left with stock.

No use having 1500 engines set aside for utes and run the risk of slow sales and having to get rid of who knows how many at the end...

Having one engine stocked up at X amounts is more economical...

spyman03 · 10-06-2014, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikked

Its just the prototype design process, the are out testing different ideas, seeing what works better, costs etc...

My guess is the spyman has seen a few different versions of the XR lights, could be 2 production ready examples and there is some last minute finessing going on.

There was pictures floating around of a alternate FG XR series bumper, one that was early suggested as the design by the press etc.

Ford could be still be deciding on the illuminated hook design for the XR's, versus others...

*edit, this is the alternate FG bar design, a prototype was spotted at DJR at one point...

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Hey,

Firstly are wheels drunk no wounded I gave them the flick......

The dark blue picture,with the hook LEDs is probly spot on,

3 headlight graphics,two bumpers, and some diff grilles

Got to clean up red car shots so later on them

Spyman

FlipXW · 10-06-2014, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikked

Limited number of engines? Make more sense to capitalise on higher priced sedan, rather then a traditionally cheaper ute, more profit. Total XR8 production was hinted at between 3500-4000, now if that is projected, there would only be a specific number of componentry on order. Ford are closing down operations, so there will be a wind down of operations, and Ford won't want to be left with stock.

No use having 1500 engines set aside for utes and run the risk of slow sales and having to get rid of who knows how many at the end...

Having one engine stocked up at X amounts is more economical...

Yeah true that's not bad thinking and didn't cross my mind to be honest. As you were

SensationFG8 · 10-06-2014, 07:58 PM

I would've thought the GT335 would have different suspension and other bits and pieces to be able to handle the more powerful engine.

I agree with you the engine is the same, I just don't think it's cost of the engine that would make them use the 315. I think it's an end to end thing that would take into account all other various part tolerances, part costs and potential warranty claims for the cheaper vehicle.

dragons90 · 10-06-2014, 08:16 PM

Read through the 2011 gs and gt release notes, apparently they share the same suspension setup which is just recalibrated the valving and revised spring rates over a standard falcon. Only the rspec and now the GT-F got the extra beefed up driveline.

spyman03 · 10-06-2014, 08:27 PM

[QUOTE=Nikked;5121336]
There was pictures floating around of a alternate FG XR series bumper, one that was early suggested as the design by

Hey,
I have one of those bumpers it was going into production but got pulled six months into development

I'll get a shot of it and post it up and I'll find the FG shot of the early prototype

Spyman

fgpsi · 10-06-2014, 08:32 PM

[QUOTE=spyman03;5121428]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikked

There was pictures floating around of a alternate FG XR series bumper, one that was early suggested as the design by

Hey,
I have one of those bumpers it was going into production but got pulled six months into development

I'll get a shot of it and post it up and I'll find the FG shot of the early prototype

Spyman

Thank god for that if it looks anything like the above mag cover

spyman03 · 10-06-2014, 08:34 PM

[QUOTE=fgpsi;5121436]

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Originally Posted by spyman03

Thank god for that if it looks anything like the above mag cover

Hey,

It was very 90's meets FG

Spyman