US Elections - Boring or Important to Aust?

[BENT_8]

Originally Posted by xxx000

How is it sticking it to the establishment if you voted for the Republican candidate this time?

The funny thing is Clinton actually got more votes than Trump but lost the election.

Well i guess in this instance the establishment is the left leaning PC crew driven by MSM who demand that everyone tow the party line or be labelled the very things that Trump has endured.

Well, the American people who cared enough to vote, did so, and the bloke they elected is supposedly the epitome of everything the left try to save us from, go figure.

Time will tell, if those behind the scenes dont make an example of him first...

[Trump]

Originally Posted by Ghia5L

Seems the majority of vocal members on here, and the US, have gotten what they wanted. Congratulations.

I hope for the world's sake the Trump Administration is not a destructive one; socially, economically, & environmentally. Let's see where we end up...

I'm not worried about what the Trump administration does or doesn't do, I'm more concerned about the pound of flesh the real rulers will take as retribution.

[lgpking22]

so this great revolution turns out it wasnt so great after all more of a minor blip some interesting reading.

Nearly half of eligible voters (231,556,662 people) did not vote in the presidential election, according to data of early turnout rates compiled by the United States Election Project.
Though the full turnout results won’t be available for another two weeks, early data found that of the US population, 46.6 per cent didn’t vote, 25.6 per cent voted for Hillary Clinton, and 25.5 per cent voted for Donald Trump.

[Trump]

Originally Posted by lgpking22

so this great revolution turns out it wasnt so great after all more of a minor blip some interesting reading.

Nearly half of eligible voters (231,556,662 people) did not vote in the presidential election, according to data of early turnout rates compiled by the United States Election Project.
Though the full turnout results won’t be available for another two weeks, early data found that of the US population, 46.6 per cent didn’t vote, 25.6 per cent voted for Hillary Clinton, and 25.5 per cent voted for Donald Trump.

Your point being?

[mcflux]

Originally Posted by Loud_Noises

I'm not worried about what the Trump administration does or doesn't do, I'm more concerned about the pound of flesh the real rulers will take as retribution.

Who are the real rulers, if it isn't the Administration? Pls don't say Rothschilds/sheeple/fluoride/vaccines

[Tickford.]

Ladies and gentleman, Australia's next Prime Minister....






....Derryn Hinch!

[lgpking22]

Originally Posted by Loud_Noises

Your point being?

that the silent majority didnt listen to msm and vote at all to really stick it up those lefties and righties

[Beastie]

Originally Posted by xxxg

Ladies and gentleman, Australia's next Prime Minister....






....Derryn Hinch!

And here I was thinking Pauline Hanson...

[Trump]

Originally Posted by Ghia5L

Who are the real rulers, if it isn't the Administration? Pls don't say Rothschilds/sheeple/fluoride/vaccines

The military industrial complex. If one follows the money, it invariably leads back to the war machine and its financial backers.

[PG2]

Originally Posted by xxxg

Ladies and gentleman, Australia's next Prime Minister....






....Derryn Hinch!

Originally Posted by Beastie

And here I was thinking Pauline Hanson...

That would be an interesting election.

Hinch vs Hanson

[Tickford.]

Originally Posted by PG2

That would be an interesting election.

Hinch vs Hanson

Hinch get's my vote.

https://newmatilda.com/2016/06/22/da...nals-humanely/

http://www.justiceparty.com.au/about

[MITCHAY]

Have you seen Hanson and Hinch on breakfast TV? Imagine them in the senate, let alone an election campaign

[asagaai]

Originally Posted by Loud_Noises

The military industrial complex. If one follows the money, it invariably leads back to the war machine and its financial backers.

Uh- Iraq war was from memory materially Dick Cheney and Halliburton, and Cheney puppet pulling strings on George Bush Junior to make it a family "he tried to kill my dad." You may be right and there was no doubt some military companies agitating for the war as well.

But yeah- it was an industrial money complex at play- for Cheney's benefit.

I really wonder how a guy like that can sleep at night, knowing he killed hundreds of thousands of women and children.....for money.

Pity he did not go on a hunting trip before that war- with a hunter who was a better shot with a higher grain round to do him properly.

[mostly_broncos]

Originally Posted by asagaai

Uh- Iraq war was from memory materially Dick Cheney and Halliburton, and Cheney puppet pulling strings on George Bush Junior to make it a family "he tried to kill my dad." You may be right and there was no doubt some military companies agitating for the war as well.

But yeah- it was an industrial money complex at play- for Cheney's benefit.

I really wonder how a guy like that can sleep at night, knowing he killed hundreds of thousands of women and children.....for money.

Pity he did not go on a hunting trip before that war- with a hunter who was a better shot with a higher grain round to do him properly.

No doubt you can lay the Iraq war at the feet of Republicans , but Syria and Libya happened on Obama's watch. Personally I think Obama held back as best he could the damage being done by the State department under Clinton. Even John Kerry , who is a buffoon , has been effective at limiting the extent of war in the middle east. Clinton would have destroyed everything, millions of dollars were funneled into her phony charity by Saudi Arabia and all the other non democratic powers in the region . They were buying influence and she was going to deliver.

[MITCHAY]

All I know is that KBR took over the company I worked for and all of a sudden I was surplus to their needs. Just as well I got a good package and never looked back.

It wasn't until after I left I understood what **** they are into.

[GXL078]

Originally Posted by TUF_302

All hail US warlord, Premier Trump!

And when he presses the red button, is he gonna say "your fired"?

[MITCHAY]

Originally Posted by GXL078

And when he presses the red button, is he gonna say "your fired"?

I think the more accurate saying is "your fried"

[tranquilized]

After an initial period of shock I'm feeling surprisingly calm and positive about a Trump presidency.

I find it ironic that some of his policy positions actually align with the left. For example it looks like the TPP won't get off the ground. So many people have rightly been protesting this nasty piece of work, who would have thought Trump would be the one to actually kill it off. As far as I'm concerned that would be a major positive from all this. Will his trade attack on China force them to slow down, adopt a more sustainable growth trajectory? Force Australia further away from our reliance on mining materials for China?

Climate change on the other hand, we might as well burn with reckless abandon. Looks like nothing will ever be done about this issue now so we better all hope it is actually a hoax.

But then, how able will he be in passing his policies, many of which are directly at odds with his own parties position.

Lots to think about!

[superyob]

Originally Posted by tranquilized

After an initial period of shock I'm feeling surprisingly calm and positive about a Trump presidency.

I find it ironic that some of his policy positions actually align with the left. For example it looks like the TPP won't get off the ground.


Lots to think about!

What is the TPP tranquilised???

[cheap]

The loonies are now protesting against democracy, luckily I found something for them...

[asagaai]

Well I threw a cat amoung the pidgeons in my house- 3 women in my place- no wonder I got the car I have to escape and get sanity.

Anyway- after the shock of the Trump election, I said "ah well- Trump said what he had to do to win, but he seems to be modulating his tone.

Also, he will is less of a hawk than Clinton."

Oh boy- was that it for me- I tried to explain that Clinton is a proven Hawk (Iraq, no fly zone in Syria) and that Trump has not been proven a Hawk.

Did not go down well- thank goodness I have a week away in Sydney starting this Sunday....

[Pepscobra]

Why are people so worried about Trump?
Remember, this is a country that had George W Bush for 8 years... why be picky now?

[tranquilized]

Originally Posted by superyob

What is the TPP tranquilised???

Trans Pacific Partnership. Basically the mother of all free trade agreements which included generous isds (Investor-State dispute settlement) provisions which allow corporations to sue governments for passing legislation that affects their profits. I believe Australia is spending huge sums fighting the tobacco companies right now for introducing plain packaging. I think some latin american countries are fighting mining companies in court for not granting them mining licenses. It's just crazy stuff. Trump's position is one of protectionism - the opposite to free trade. The TPP has already been signed but is awaiting ratification so I can't wait to see what happens with it.

[tranquilized]

Originally Posted by Pepscobra

Why are people so worried about Trump?
Remember, this is a country that had George W Bush for 8 years... why be picky now?

This is a good point, and begs the question - how much importance does the president actually have? Not much beyond the symbolic you could argue.

What worries me though are the potential consequences of having such an inept president. It basically opens the possibility for all kinds of dark forces, faceless men, within the administration to run amok. Some nasty business went down on George W's watch while he was out hunting and playing golf...

[Pis-ton broke]

i think some people are being a bit alarmist, but some of the media are still spewing out negative bs. i did read some where that some media could be considered to be inciting trouble, ie riots. i think the media and others have egg all over there faces, and some can,t eat humble pie and there still carrying on like spoil sports, wont a joke. it is wan,t it is, so lets get on with life.

[LG17]

It will be very interesting to see if he carries out his Presidency in the same brash manner that he seems to carry out his businesses. He's had plenty of failures and bankruptcies, but all done within the law regardless of the moral and ethical issues with them, or whether he tones his methods down. It will also be interesting to find out just how much of the rhetoric he used during the campaign actually comes to fruition, eg, appointing a special prosecutor to go after Hilary Clinton.

[blueoval]

I have noticed that since the official announcement, that Trump's demeanor towards the reality that he IS going to be the next president has been quite 'presidential'. I know it's early days, but he is showing a level of professionalism towards Obama and the transition that will come thru eventually. Another thing I have noticed in his speech after the meeting with Obama is he openness toward gaining advice from other people including Obama himself. I do not think he will act like the spoilt brat every hater thinks he will be. He is a business man and will use his experience of that towards delegating tasks including asking for advice by fellow colleagues.

Whether you love him or hate him, this has opened my eyes to what I think could be a positive outcome assuming he continues this demeanor and objectively recalculates his policies in a way that will be positive move towards what is best for the country.

[2011G6E]

[Polyal]

He did what he had to do to get in, he will fold into the system because it will spit him out if he doesnt.

Its a fascinating test of their/our political process.

[TheSneakiness]

I'm looking at this with open eyes, we know he has been successful in his career, he has also had his failures in his career. Much like every user on this forum.

I'm just hoping what he does there that could go wrong doesn't directly translate into my company here as it is US owned.