Toyota 86 price $29,990! - Page 14

Nic85 · 12-06-2012, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Doesn't matter how it was driven, the car companies will thrash the hell out of their vehicles more than anyone ever could on the street, they do this to check for weaknesses. If one of them blew up in the hands of the customer its mean they failed somewhere in their testing, or it was an assembly or part quality issue.

There solution was to drop the rev limit by 500rpm.

Yep, which meant it never actually made peak power!

**Polyal** · 12-06-2012, 08:36 PM

BOSSXR8 you done with your bashing?

I have an issue now....having two small RWD cars doesnt make much sense...I love my GTV but this thing looks fun..hmm maybe cage up the Alfa for track days and the 86 for a daily!

Brazen · 12-06-2012, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by NickosEL

Does anyone have a pic with the Toyota and the Subaru side by side? Are they exactly the same or are there subtle differences? I know I can googlle this but on a friends comp atm.

Nikked · 12-06-2012, 08:45 PM

The toyota looks more natural, the Subi looks like its been changed for the sake of it.

I think after a few years, we'll seen some proper differentiation between the two.

Brazen · 12-06-2012, 08:45 PM

Interesting the car is designed to carry 4 wheels in the boot and fold-down back seat for track work. Meaning you can drive your 86 to the track, swap the slicks on, do track work, then put your street wheels back on for your trip home.

Hayden1 · 12-06-2012, 08:50 PM

Can't wait until everything has been tried on these cars in a couple of years, so that all the info is out there and you could just pick one up for cheap second-hand and then modify to your likings!

tranquilized · 12-06-2012, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Brazen

Interesting the car is designed to carry 4 wheels in the boot and fold-down back seat for track work. Meaning you can drive your 86 to the track, swap the slicks on, do track work, then put your street wheels back on for your trip home.

The front seat head restraints can be flipped to accommodate a racing helmet also.

GTP-03 · 12-06-2012, 11:06 PM

Im not sure what all the fuss is about, im guessing its the price...

Shonky. · 12-06-2012, 11:45 PM

I'd go the Suby if I wanted one

Why o why can't they do an STI powered one (it would be 50k not 30k, but that's cool)

Wretched · 13-06-2012, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by GTP-03

Im not sure what all the fuss is about, im guessing its the price...

If you don't get it then you're not in that market.

DBourne · 13-06-2012, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by GTP-03

Im not sure what all the fuss is about, im guessing its the price...

The fuss is that a car company has gone to the effort of making a "fun" car which is affordable, track orientated, RWD, made to be modified for your personal taste (and not frowned upon).

GT 160 · 13-06-2012, 08:23 AM

WANT!

86 with 2UR GSE, D1 drift proto

http://youtu.be/vV55Ka84Jac

On Debut D1GP

http://youtu.be/oeq2PK-mMeQ

**DJM83** · 13-06-2012, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SgtBourne

The fuss is that a car company has gone to the effort of making a "fun" car which is affordable, track orientated, RWD, made to be modified for your personal taste (and not frowned upon).

Exactly.

All the little things they have done with this car seems they know what this car will be used for ie reversible head rests for a helmet.

Well done IMO, yeah might not be the most powerful car around but by god i reckon it will be a fun drive.

SumoDog68 · 13-06-2012, 10:16 AM

$29990 is to be reviewed by Toyota Australia in 3 months time...

blk6t · 13-06-2012, 10:57 AM

I think it's a fantastic move by Toyota and Subaru to provide a small, affordable, RWD sports car, something that has been missing from the market for a long time.

Yes, it's not the fastest thing, but give it some time and the aftermarket scene will be awash with power upgrades, turbo kits etc...and I'm sure Toyota and Subaru will be planning high spec versions in the near future.

Maybe GM and Ford could have done a similar exercise by collectively creating a RWD sports car platform to give us an affordable sports muscle car to compete with the 86 / BRZ.....This platform could have been used for the next Gen Mustang/Falcon and the Camaro/Corvette/Commodore......

GT 160 · 13-06-2012, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by blk6t

Yes, it's not the fastest thing, but give it some time and the aftermarket scene will be awash with power upgrades, turbo kits etc...and I'm sure Toyota and Subaru will be planning high spec versions in the near future.

HKS are working on a proto 86 with 400HP!

Vesper Martini · 13-06-2012, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Brazen

Interesting the car is designed to carry 4 wheels in the boot and fold-down back seat for track work. Meaning you can drive your 86 to the track, swap the slicks on, do track work, then put your street wheels back on for your trip home.

It would be great for doing hill climbs or even a Targa on a budget

trippytaka · 13-06-2012, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GTP-03

Im not sure what all the fuss is about, im guessing its the price...

LOL, fair enough.

RASER · 13-06-2012, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikked

And Toyota have a 16% share in that company...

A few years ago during the GFC subaru where running out of money and would have gone bust if BigT[tm.F/O] did'nt step in and buy equity in said company, they where simply running out of money.

They, BigT, will buy the whole company when and if they see fit, and if Mr.Toyda decides he wants to [petty cash for them]

Its important to note that subaru is not supported here in AUS by Subaru Japan, it has a importer [Inchcape] in the middle, so the prices will never be as low as they could and its NOT A FACTORY BACKED OPERATION

Buy the Toyota

RASER · 13-06-2012, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SumoDog68

$29990 is to be reviewed by Toyota Australia in 3 months time...

LOL

= In other words order now so we can do a better forward ordering on parts required to manufacture them

In 12 months time it will be $29,900 driveaway

RASER · 13-06-2012, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SgtBourne

The fuss is that a car company has gone to the effort of making a "fun" car which is affordable, track orientated, RWD, made to be modified for your personal taste (and not frowned upon).

Sounds EXACTLY like a Mustang!

**DJM83** · 13-06-2012, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RASER

Sounds EXACTLY like a Mustang!

Agreed, but the mustang isnt exactly affordable here.

dimka100 · 13-06-2012, 04:53 PM

$29,990 is a very competitive price in Australia and that's probably the reason why everyone is so excited ... but in other markets (e.g. USA) the 86 costs the same sort of money that more desirable cars in my opinion can be purchased

DBourne · 13-06-2012, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RASER

Sounds EXACTLY like a Mustang!

You're right, it does.. Shame FoMoCo don't agree with you ;)

(by that, I mean bringing it out here for the same price that gets paid for it in the states)

dimka100 · 13-06-2012, 05:11 PM

It will never happen while the Falcon is still being made locally ... it will simply canibilise most of the FPV / V8 / Turbo sales ...

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Originally Posted by SgtBourne

You're right, it does.. Shame FoMoCo don't agree with you ;)

(by that, I mean bringing it out here for the same price that gets paid for it in the states)

XRtowcar · 13-06-2012, 06:51 PM

Think i figured out the perfect sales slogan for the car.
"Toyota 86, some people just don't get it."

Franco Cozzo · 13-06-2012, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SumoDog68

$29990 is to be reviewed by Toyota Australia in 3 months time...

I wonder if they'll do a Honda and price themselves out of the market?

Brazen · 13-06-2012, 08:33 PM

I am tempted to go 50:50 on one of these with one of my boys when he gets his first car, on the proviso I can have some fun on the dirt roads around here and our back paddocks.

SteveJH · 13-06-2012, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DJM83

Agreed, but the mustang isnt exactly affordable here.

Really? I would have said a Mustang is more a Grand Tourer than it is a sports car.

Its a fair bit heavier than most sports cars.

2011G6E · 13-06-2012, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveJH

Really? I would have said a Mustang is more a Grand Tourer than it is a sports car.

Its a fair bit heavier than most sports cars.

Yes well...the Yanks seem to concentrate on skid pan numbers rather than real world driving for their "sports" cars like Corvettes and Mustangs...who hasn't seen various reports on these things that say on a race track they are pretty good, but as soon as you hit the streets, they punish you with shocking ride and handling? One comment I remember from when a Corvette was put out years ago that the American motoring press was all excited about because it could pull "1G on the skidpan" said "You could get the same numbers out of a Morris Minor with welded up suspension...but you wouldn't want to live with it every day".

They have a rather different idea of what constitutes a "sports car" over there...and it's usually something with savagely stiff non-compliant suspension and a massive engine to make up for it with straight line speed...