New Ranger teaser vidz - Page 14

BENT_8 · 07-12-2021, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GasoLane

Please stop arguing simply for the sake of it.

Perhaps have a read here.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/defi...?term=Trolling

I witnessed it first hand recently but im sure you know better.

So much for stock shortages.

FPV8U · 07-12-2021, 09:15 PM

Small engine working hard versus larger engine being lazy, majority of people that are actually going to put these things to work be it on the worksite or towing a heavy van/boat won’t even look at the 2L once the 3L is available with the A10.

Based on future towing and resale I’ll be going 3L.

jpd80 · 08-12-2021, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Smoke Pursuit

Ford have said they wont be discounting PX3 and have set production up to limit any left over stock.

Thank you and from what I understand, a lot of the Ranger stock that arrives in Australia
is already sold and until recently, Ford was scratching to get enough production to cover
orders. So this idea of excess inventory laying around is not an issue and won’t be.

And the price rise on new Ranger will probably make PX3 look like a discount anyway.

PooDog · 08-12-2021, 07:09 AM

These small motors are fine with multi speed autos behind them but where there achilles heel is if you prefer a manual and you get caught in the wrong gear or you want to shoot a gap quickly .....there aint nothing happening under 1500rpm and they stall real easy

Theres no replacement for displacement

jpd80 · 08-12-2021, 07:29 AM

I don’t recall a manual transmission option for the Ranger 2.0 diesel, has that changed?

PooDog · 08-12-2021, 07:42 AM

Oh ok my bad didn't realise they dont offer a manual ,was mainly referring to the small capacity (2.4)l in my Triton manual

Bossxr8 · 08-12-2021, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by prydey

Ok then..

Had the salty troll on ignore for years and the troll still hangs off my every word

Living rent free in his feeble little troll brain. I just don't understand why you would bother hanging a forum for something you hate so much. It's bizarre.

FPV8U · 08-12-2021, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by PooDog

These small motors are fine with multi speed autos behind them but where there achilles heel is if you prefer a manual and you get caught in the wrong gear or you want to shoot a gap quickly .....there aint nothing happening under 1500rpm and they stall real easy

Theres no replacement for displacement

Having driven a Bi-Turbo XLT at work a fair bit recently it’s an excellent car, the. A10 is good but not flawless, if you catch it in the wrong gear (which seems like a ridiculous concept given how many there are!) and don’t give it enough throttle to drop down it reminds you that it’s a small capacity engine pretty quickly.

I’ve not driven a 3.2 so can’t really give a fair comparison in that respect.

All power to those that want the 2L it’s a good thing, my neighbour just bought one in a Wildtrak and it will do everything he wants of it with ease.

XR Martin · 08-12-2021, 09:22 AM

Does the bi turbo come in manual? How does it drive?
Not that I'd ever consider one as all diesels are terrible in manual.

jpd80 · 08-12-2021, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by PooDog

Oh ok my bad didn't realise they dont offer a manual ,was mainly referring to the small capacity (2.4)l in my Triton manual

Our staff drive automatic Tritons, the lag off the mark is quite surprising
but I don’t think that’s the case with the 2.0 manual in Transit but that’s a single scroll…….
Point is that the Twin Scroll approximates a small and big turbo in one, meaning virtually no lag down low like Triton POS that neatly killed me crossing a busy intersection, I hit the throttle and the thing took what felt like two seconds to get going…..,

Gumboot · 08-12-2021, 10:29 AM

I read that ford doesn't have an official order system open for the new ranger yet, but dealers are taking deposits. Do the dealers just transfer their informal list on to the Ford system when it opens up etc?. Do those early adopters just pay whatever the market price that that dealer sets? Or are people saying deposit down,with contract condition's such as . wildtrak V6 is < than $75k DA for example?

Smoke Pursuit · 08-12-2021, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Gumboot

I read that ford doesn't have an official order system open for the new ranger yet, but dealers are taking deposits. Do the dealers just transfer their informal list on to the Ford system when it opens up etc?. Do those early adopters just pay whatever the market price that that dealer sets? Or are people saying deposit down,with contract condition's such as . wildtrak V6 is < than $75k DA for example?

Yes this is how it works. Yes just pay a deposit subject to final price.

Vesper Martini · 08-12-2021, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

They have mentioned it is wider, and will now accept a pallet between the wheel arches.

From what I recall the Amarok was the only one that could do that previously?

I think it was only the Merc

Vesper Martini · 08-12-2021, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BENT_8

No, they said the 2.0l bi turbo was ample but its enjoyable watching the backflips by those who suggested it now theres a bigger displacement engine that people are falling over themselves to drop a deposit on.

Meanwhile those who said 'No replacement for displacement' and we're heckled for it are quietly whispering to themselves 'I told you so' as the order books fill with 3.0l orders

umm my Maths says the old 3.2 5 cylinder had more displacement than the new V6 3.0. so we shouldn't buy it because of the old adage you are using?

either way its been taken out of the line up so hopefully these silly arguments will dry up.

I'm picking the 3.0V6 will cost more, so people will still buy the 2.0

Vesper Martini · 08-12-2021, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by XR Martin

Does the bi turbo come in manual? How does it drive?
Not that I'd ever consider one as all diesels are terrible in manual.

I don't know why anyone would pick the manual over the 10 speed Auto so wouldn't be surprised if its not offered

Smoke Pursuit · 08-12-2021, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Vesper Martini

umm my Maths says the old 3.2 5 cylinder had more displacement than the new V6 3.0. so we shouldn't buy it because of the old adage you are using?

either way its been taken out of the line up so hopefully these silly arguments will dry up.

I'm picking the 3.0V6 will cost more, so people will still buy the 2.0

Correct fleet and governments will still pick up the 2.0 as it will be cheaper to buy an more fuel efficient.

There will still be a need for 2.0 Bi turbo especially on XLT for these reasons. Wildtrak probably not.

Smoke Pursuit · 08-12-2021, 12:01 PM

Bi turbo has never come in manual.

The only manual on offer will be the base Eco Blue single turbo 2.0. It will also be offered with a 6 speed auto.

Bossxr8 · 08-12-2021, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Vesper Martini

I think it was only the Merc

After doing a google search you are correct. The X class could do it too. As far as I can see only the Amarok and new Ranger will be able to fit it, with the X class being no longer available. The current Amarok is the only one available right now that can do it.

Big_Daz · 08-12-2021, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Gumboot

I read that ford doesn't have an official order system open for the new ranger yet, but dealers are taking deposits. Do the dealers just transfer their informal list on to the Ford system when it opens up etc?. Do those early adopters just pay whatever the market price that that dealer sets? Or are people saying deposit down,with contract condition's such as . wildtrak V6 is < than $75k DA for example?

Thats right, my dealer took a deposit and its Pending price. Ive said Sports Diesel is my chosen model (in Meteor Grey) but if Wildtrack isnt hugely more expensive I'll go that way.

Bossxr8 · 08-12-2021, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Big_Daz

Thats right, my dealer took a deposit and its Pending price. Ive said Sports Diesel is my chosen model (in Meteor Grey) but if Wildtrack isnt hugely more expensive I'll go that way.

It will be interesting to see where they will position the Sports model in the range. Between XLT and Wildtrak? Or will it be positioned below, or equal to XLT?

**Fordman1** · 08-12-2021, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

It will be interesting to see where they will position the Sports model in the range. Between XLT and Wildtrak? Or will it be positioned below, or equal to XLT?

I think it might be XLT+ ?

Big_Daz · 08-12-2021, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

It will be interesting to see where they will position the Sports model in the range. Between XLT and Wildtrak? Or will it be positioned below, or equal to XLT?

Mate, I asked exactly that to the salesman. He THINKS it will be in between xlt and wildtraxk, and I tend to agree… but will definitely be interesting to see what the actual deal is when more info is released. In my case I’ve told them by looking at details on ford au website the sports sounds right for me, but I’d Jump to Wildtrack if the price difference isn’t to obscene.

My ideal budget is no more than $75k on the road, with some room to move up of I think it’s worthwhile.

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Bossxr8 · 08-12-2021, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Fordman1

I think it might be XLT+ ?

That's my impression. The Everest Sport was Trend with some extras wasn't it?

Trend was about XLT spec.

Big_Daz · 08-12-2021, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

That's my impression. The Everest Sport was Trend with some extras wasn't it?

Trend was about XLT spec.

Sorry for quoting you again but do we think it might be a px3 FX4 equivalent?

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vbomber · 08-12-2021, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

That's my impression. The Everest Sport was Trend with some extras wasn't it?

Trend was about XLT spec.

Looks like you get leather seats on the sports whereas XLT still with the cloth

Smoke Pursuit · 08-12-2021, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Big_Daz

Thats right, my dealer took a deposit and its Pending price. Ive said Sports Diesel is my chosen model (in Meteor Grey) but if Wildtrack isnt hugely more expensive I'll go that way.

Which dealer Big Daz?

Smoke Pursuit · 08-12-2021, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

It will be interesting to see where they will position the Sports model in the range. Between XLT and Wildtrak? Or will it be positioned below, or equal to XLT?

Sport is in between XLT & Wildtrak.

Wildtrak is still king of the mountain, gets the bigger screen, black hood-lining, sailplane / rear cover.

It also looks as tho Wildtrak gets a tech pack option, and a 20 inch wheel option (even tho neither have been discussed) some pre production cars have a dot matrix LED headlight setup and some have a 20 inch wheel option. I actually thought we might get a "limited" spec too which included the above 2 options but it seems as tho its just a Wildtrak with some packs. Neither have been discussed by Ford yet but I have put them on our orders anyways.

I think my favorite feature of the new model is the cup holders on either side under the air vents. Hilux's have had them for the last 10+ years and they are awesome because your drink stays cool with the AC blowing on it!

PooDog · 08-12-2021, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jpd80

Our staff drive automatic Tritons, the lag off the mark is quite surprising
but I don’t think that’s the case with the 2.0 manual in Transit but that’s a single scroll…….
Point is that the Twin Scroll approximates a small and big turbo in one, meaning virtually no lag down low like Triton POS that neatly killed me crossing a busy intersection, I hit the throttle and the thing took what felt like two seconds to get going…..,

That's more throttle delay than lack of twin scroll .....an aftermarket throttle control transforms them....think they're bad try a Colorado

jpd80 · 08-12-2021, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by PooDog

That's more throttle delay than lack of twin scroll .....an aftermarket throttle control transforms them....think they're bad try a Colorado

Whatever it is, that lag is a dealbreaker for me, let alone the uncomfortable seating and A pillar proximity.

**PG2** · 08-12-2021, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by PooDog

That's more throttle delay than lack of twin scroll .....an aftermarket throttle control transforms them....think they're bad try a Colorado

Are you talking about the pre-update or last of the models?

I had my heart set on a Triton but after driving it I went a little cold on it for a number of reasons. The dealer was also a Holden dealer so had a drive of the updated Colorado and bought it.

At the time we only had the pre-update model Colorados at work and I will admit I hated them but when the updated ones came through they were like a different ~~car~~ ~~truck~~ or whatever you want to call them.