FG Falcon MKII - Page 14

gtfpv · 17-09-2011, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by prydey

at least it stops all the tossers who drive around with them on.

what a pun of a statement !!!! i drive with spotlights on and am also a tos... , thinking about it spotlights and penises are the same they both dont need the situation they were designed for to come around before use .

jpd80 · 17-09-2011, 06:30 PM

It's amazing how many team red drivers think their foggies are driving lamps...

prydey · 17-09-2011, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by gtfpv

what a pun of a statement !!!! i drive with spotlights on and am also a tos... ,.

if its not foggy, then yes!

lets not highjack this thread too much though. the topic regarding usage of fog lights has been done to death.

galaxy xr8 · 17-09-2011, 08:30 PM

I have used the fog light's when driving FG's (hire vehicles) on the open road, simply because of the safety benefit's, a dark coloured vehicle blend's into the road from a distance and the last thing I want is to have a head on with another vehicle that was overtaking another and simply did not see me.
So fog light's can be used for other purposes aswell, just as I some times use headlight's on the open road aswell in my AU.
I see it more as a safety issue rather then trying to look cool.

Bossxr8 · 17-09-2011, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dimka100

OMG! That’s is 33K for a car that’s almost new and was selling for well over 50K brand new just 6 months ago. That’s exactly the perfect example of depreciation that’s just way too big to let go no matter how good the car is.

Thats an employee price, not for the general public.

SteveJH · 17-09-2011, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jpd80

It's amazing how many team red drivers think their foggies are driving lamps...

Nah, its just amazing how many drivers in general. Especially when no one tells them they are actually fog lights and they don't read the manual.

Seduce XR6 · 18-09-2011, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by galaxy xr8

I have used the fog light's when driving FG's (hire vehicles) on the open road, simply because of the safety benefit's, a dark coloured vehicle blend's into the road from a distance and the last thing I want is to have a head on with another vehicle that was overtaking another and simply did not see me.
So fog light's can be used for other purposes aswell, just as I some times use headlight's on the open road aswell in my AU.
I see it more as a safety issue rather then trying to look cool.

Oh no the old using Foglights when it is not foggy debate again

Has been done so many times over the last 6 years that I know of.
I agree with you as a safety aid however after much bagging on here & knowing if I drive around during the day with my Foglights on I can be fined I dont do it anymore & have my headlights on instead (low beam) because I would never ever anymore drive around unless I am more visible than a car without lights on, the only issue I find is people in front of you often see you with your lights on & take offence for some reason & then start to slow just to annoy you (which does annoy me hugely) so then they get high beam & are passed ASAP!

And I dont get close to them either until they act foolish & become jerks just because I prefer to be visible on the road.

jpd80 · 18-09-2011, 01:27 PM

September: New Focus
October: New Ranger and Eco LPI Falcon
November: FG II Range

A fairly heavy release schedule ahead for FoA but I wonder if we'll see an announcement
at Bathurst, that would be perfect timing for a particular product...

**Polyal** · 18-09-2011, 01:39 PM

Oh stop it.

So im guessing with a beefed up GT or a XR8, other than that the cats are out of the bag?

warpsp33d · 18-09-2011, 02:28 PM

I'm surprised that they don't call the XR6 with the luxury pack the XR6E.

That'd seem more cohesive to me.

i.e.

XT
XR6
XR6 Turbo
XR6E
XR6E Turbo
G6
G6E
G6E Turbo

I've been waiting on this release, I'm probably going to buy a new car in the next 6-12 months, and I'm strongly considering a G6E MKII EcoLPi. I'm not entirely sure that I'm a fan of the lower air dam styling. Guess I'll have to see it in person before I can make final comment on that though.

The thing I'm a bit disappointed at with this release, is that they haven't really done much to differentiate the G6E and G6ET from the rest. They've increased the equipment levels in the lower end models without really doing much at the top end.

Sure they've added Sat Nav (meh) and an Alarm (meh) and the LED front lights (why can't these be used as DRL's), but what else is there that really differentiates/is exclusive to the higher models?

Minor things (I class all of these as relatively easy additions) I think they missed in this release that would have been good to see in the upper models:

* LED tail lights
* Front parking sensors
* LED Puddle laps on the bottom of the mirrors
* Auto windscreen wipers (I actually don't care too much for these but some folks do)
* Better/upgraded sound system
* Dual tailpipes and revised the lower air diffuser at the rear (I'm not a fan of the current one).

Some major but less likely things (perhaps as premium options):

* Keyless entry/start
* Adaptive cruise control
* Lane keep assist
* Blind spot warning
* Xenon headlights (not overly difficult but a nice option to have above projectors for those that like them)

Franco Cozzo · 18-09-2011, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by galaxy xr8

Yes the new Territory has Projector's, not HID's, as do some version's of the MKII FG now.

Oh ok, I just had a quick look and seen the projector and assumed they where HIDs, why not HIDs if you went through the effort of redesigning the lights?

jpd80 · 18-09-2011, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

Oh stop it.

So im guessing with a beefed up GT or a XR8, other than that the cats are out of the bag?

I wish.....

jpd80 · 18-09-2011, 03:00 PM

I suppose the guessing game will now switch to the 2013 update,
perhaps Territory lights and reversed angle on the upper vent..

No.6 · 18-09-2011, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by warpsp33d

I'm surprised that they don't call the XR6 with the luxury pack the XR6E.

That'd seem more cohesive to me.

Its an unnecessary model to include imo. Creating another badged class of car simply because you have leather seats and dual climate control hardly seems worthy.

distortion · 18-09-2011, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jpd80

I suppose the guessing game will now switch to the 2013 update,
perhaps Territory lights and reversed angle on the upper vent..

thats a pretty big hint!

AMGC63 · 18-09-2011, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by No.6

Its an unnecessary model to include imo. Creating another badged class of car simply because you have leather seats and dual climate control hardly seems worthy.

I disagree, if the combined cost of the options totals more than about 8-10% of the car's value then to my way of thinking they need to create a sub model designation to signify the impression of "value" and also help preserve resale value.

zoomie · 18-09-2011, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AMGC63

I disagree, if the combined cost of the options totals more than about 8-10% of the car's value then to my way of thinking they need to create a sub model designation to signify the impression of "value" and also help preserve resale value.

Exactly. Look at the SSV to SS for example.

Optioning up a base car at time of purchase is hard to recover the costs at trade in time BUT if the car has those "options" as standard in a named version then it usually helps lessen the pain at trade in time... If that makes sense.

zoomie · 18-09-2011, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by No.6

Its an unnecessary model to include imo. Creating another badged class of car simply because you have leather seats and dual climate control hardly seems worthy.

MK2 luxury pack also adds the 19" rims, rear camera and sat nav on top of the so called premium sound, dual climate control and leather look seats.

jpd80 · 18-09-2011, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by distortion

thats a pretty big hint!

Work is already done on that update and all attention is on post 2015 car....

mcnews · 18-09-2011, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Damo

Oh ok, I just had a quick look and seen the projector and assumed they where HIDs, why not HIDs if you went through the effort of redesigning the lights?

Because HIDs are damn annoying and I wish someone would ban them!

Franco Cozzo · 18-09-2011, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mcnews

Because HIDs are damn annoying and I wish someone would ban them!

The only HIDs that are annoying are ones people bought a plug n play kit from ebay and jammed them in a halogen reflector, which glares all over the place.

If they're done properly, with reflectors designed for HIDs, or projectors also designed for HIDs then you'll have no issue, they're less glary than halogen lights even, the cut-off is that sharp, above that point is absolutely no light.

Also ADRs specify here in Australia that they need auto levelers.

vztrt · 18-09-2011, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mcnews

Because HIDs are damn annoying and I wish someone would ban them!

Agreed.

Smoke Pursuit · 18-09-2011, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jpd80

September: New Focus
October: New Ranger and Eco LPI Falcon
November: FG II Range

A fairly heavy release schedule ahead for FoA but I wonder if we'll see an announcement
at Bathurst, that would be perfect timing for a particular product...

Bobman · 18-09-2011, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Damo

If they're done properly, with reflectors designed for HIDs, or projectors also designed for HIDs then you'll have no issue, they're less glary than halogen lights even, the cut-off is that sharp, above that point is absolutely no light.

HIDs on new BMWs and Audis are awful. Very blinding and every small bump the car goes over, it's like a new shot of light.

No.6 · 18-09-2011, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by zoomie

MK2 luxury pack also adds the 19" rims, rear camera and sat nav on top of the so called premium sound, dual climate control and leather look seats.

But if they do make an XR6ET, would it be cheaper than the G6ET? seeing as how the G6ET is supposed to be the luxury version...? Basically with the XR6ET being the same as the G6ET but sportier, wont it take sales away from the more expensive model? And if they make it the same price as the G6ET, would you really pay 50k+ for an XR? (or whatever the price is for a g6et)

I dont think the market would exist for an xr6et, which is why ford created the luxury pack.

Holden are badge obsessed and will create a car just to make a fancy commercial. Redline, thunder, yada blah.

SteveJH · 18-09-2011, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jpd80

A fairly heavy release schedule ahead for FoA but I wonder if we'll see an announcement
at Bathurst, that would be perfect timing for a particular product...

I wish ford would do a comparo at Bathurst like Holden did back in the VX(?) days.

I really enjoy watching that on youtube.

1. Old Race Car. 2. Current sports/performance model. 3. Current V8SC.

Sta Arhidia Mou · 18-09-2011, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jpd80

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A fairly heavy release schedule ahead for FoA but I wonder if we'll see an announcement
at Bathurst, that would be perfect timing for a particular product...

GT-H BOSS 351...

FGX-351 · 19-09-2011, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveJH

I wish ford would do a comparo at Bathurst like Holden did back in the VX(?) days.

I really enjoy watching that on youtube.

1. Old Race Car. 2. Current sports/performance model. 3. Current V8SC.

Bathurst 04, I still remember seeing it live.

zoomie · 19-09-2011, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by No.6

But if they do make an XR6ET, would it be cheaper than the G6ET? seeing as how the G6ET is supposed to be the luxury version...? Basically with the XR6ET being the same as the G6ET but sportier, wont it take sales away from the more expensive model? And if they make it the same price as the G6ET, would you really pay 50k+ for an XR? (or whatever the price is for a g6et)

I dont think the market would exist for an xr6et, which is why ford created the luxury pack.

Holden are badge obsessed and will create a car just to make a fancy commercial. Redline, thunder, yada blah.

The XR6T with Luxury pack is rouighly around 5-6K cheaper than a G6ET, plus people who buy the G6ET want a more understated looking car with "prestige" bling bits (chrome grille, window mouldings, etc etc)

The G6ET is the old fairmont Ghia with a different name.

Its easy for ford to offer the luxury pack on a XR6T cos it makes them good money at point of sale but makes bugger all for the buyer at trade in time cos all it gets classed as is a "optioned" up base XR6T, hell even insurance companies dont really recognise "luxury pack" all they list is the seperate options.

Smoke Pursuit · 19-09-2011, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by zoomie

The XR6T with Luxury pack is rouighly around 5-6K cheaper than a G6ET, plus people who buy the G6ET want a more understated looking car with "prestige" bling bits (chrome grille, window mouldings, etc etc)

The G6ET is the old fairmont Ghia with a different name.

Its easy for ford to offer the luxury pack on a XR6T cos it makes them good money at point of sale but makes bugger all for the buyer at trade in time cos all it gets classed as is a "optioned" up base XR6T, hell even insurance companies dont really recognise "luxury pack" all they list is the seperate options.

That’s why we have always said they should have a similar pack to the SS V pack... At least then the car is recognised as being better than its siblings at trade in time.