Covid 19 - - Page 155

cheap · 28-07-2020, 02:11 PM

CNN - Criminal News Network !

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/10/h...ine/index.html

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/02/h...udy/index.html

blueoval · 28-07-2020, 02:14 PM

Funny how if it comes from Trump, its crapped on by all MSM networks, but if it comes from anyone else THEY view as credible, its front page news, regardless of the truth of the subject.

FPV8U · 28-07-2020, 02:29 PM

I don’t care for the politics of the situation abroad, I want to know why if this stuff works we aren’t in Australia doing something about it, there are hundreds of elderly people in homes that are either infected or at risk of being infected which could have potentially been avoided or minimised for minimal cost.

28-07-2020, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by FPV8U

I want to know why if this stuff works we aren’t in Australia doing something about it, there are hundreds of elderly people in homes that are either infected or at risk of being infected which could have potentially been avoided or minimised for minimal cost.

Because it doesn't work. Studies show patients end up with more heart and liver problems among the people who took it.

**Polyal** · 28-07-2020, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by FPV8U

I don’t care for the politics of the situation abroad, I want to know why if this stuff works we aren’t in Australia doing something about it, there are hundreds of elderly people in homes that are either infected or at risk of being infected which could have potentially been avoided or minimised for minimal cost.

Pretty sure people are free to listen to who ever they want and inject what they want.

Id rather some kind of medical body or a government to endorse first, and even then someone else can go first.

**cs123** · 28-07-2020, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by cheap

CNN - Criminal News Network !

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/10/h...ine/index.html

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/02/h...udy/index.html

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So for that second link that you have an objection to. Here is the headline

Study finds hydroxychloroquine may have boosted survival, but other researchers have doubts

It's actually a news report.... not an editorial/opinion piece. It reports on what the researchers said and then what others have said.

I see absolutely nothing wrong with that news article. It reports on both sides of the debate and seems pretty balanced. It doesn't take a position.

The first link is an opinion piece and slams Trump a fair bit, but I think it's accurate and quotes trump verbatim on things that are disprovable.

And that drug isn't FDA approved for Coronavirus is it?

Maybe we need to take a light...a very powerful light.... and somehow get it inside the patient....like through the skin or by some other means....

HIPO · 28-07-2020, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by leesa

Because it doesn't work. Studies show patients end up with more heart and liver problems among the people who took it.

If people would dig deeper, instead of just taking whatever the MSM pump out as gospel...... lots of evidence out there, from credible people.
Law suits coming in this regard.

FPV8U · 28-07-2020, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

Pretty sure people are free to listen to who ever they want and inject what they want.

Id rather some kind of medical body or a government to endorse first, and even then someone else can go first.

I’m not sure if your agreeing with me or not here?

If your talking about a Vaccine, I couldn’t agree more.

**Fordman1** · 28-07-2020, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by blueoval

Funny how anything near intelligent could come from Trump

There fixed it for you 👍

**Fordman1** · 28-07-2020, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by HIPO

If people would dig deeper, instead of just taking whatever the MSM pump out as gospel...... lots of evidence out there, from credible people.
Law suits coming in this regard.

Karen at Bunnings ?

28-07-2020, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by HIPO

If people would dig deeper, instead of just taking whatever the MSM pump out as gospel...... lots of evidence out there, from credible people.
Law suits coming in this regard.

Got link?

XR Martin · 28-07-2020, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by FPV8U

No surprise they are already being pulled down, I watched these this morning, incredible to think the general population could all potentially take two tablets a week and suppress this virus very efficiently but it’s not even being discussed.

Yep, every country is in on the biggest scam in history.

FPV8U · 28-07-2020, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by XR Martin

Yep, every country is in on the biggest scam in history.

I’m not saying conspiracy, scam or anything like that.

I’m saying there are doctors that are presenting evidence this stuff works in the front line, there are also now studies out proving the same.

The ones claiming otherwise with health complications have been retracted.

My comment in regards to the video being pulled down is based on the fact that anything not backed by the WHO is being pulled off YouTube in relation to this and has been for months.

**cs123** · 28-07-2020, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by FPV8U

I’m not saying conspiracy, scam or anything like that.

I’m saying there are doctors that are presenting evidence this stuff works in the front line, there are also now studies out proving the same.

The ones claiming otherwise with health complications have been retracted.

My comment in regards to the video being pulled down is based on the fact that anything not backed by the WHO is being pulled off YouTube in relation to this and has been for months.

Karen, is that you?

prydey · 28-07-2020, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by FPV8U

I’m not saying conspiracy, scam or anything like that.

I’m saying there are doctors that are presenting evidence this stuff works in the front line, there are also now studies out proving the same.

The ones claiming otherwise with health complications have been retracted.

My comment in regards to the video being pulled down is based on the fact that anything not backed by the WHO is being pulled off YouTube in relation to this and has been for months.

The thing is, both sides of the debate are saying the same thing. Both claiming that studies to the contrary are being ignored.

FPV8U · 28-07-2020, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by prydey

The thing is, both sides of the debate are saying the same thing. Both claiming that studies to the contrary are being ignored.

Makes for a confusing situation, but to be clear, from what I’ve read these doctors are saying the previous studies have been retracted after being reviewed and the latest studies are showing positive effects.

They were doing local studies on this stuff and the ivermectin but I’m yet to hear any results.

**Fordman1** · 28-07-2020, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by FPV8U

Makes for a confusing situation, but to be clear, from what I’ve read these doctors are saying the previous studies have been retracted after being reviewed and the latest studies are showing positive effects.

They were doing local studies on this stuff and the ivermectin but I’m yet to hear any results.

Is this you ?

http://https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/victorian-anti-masker-seen-arguing-over-face-covering-with-police-c-1199273

CoupeKing · 28-07-2020, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by FPV8U

My comment in regards to the video being pulled down is based on the fact that anything not backed by the WHO is being pulled off YouTube in relation to this and has been for months.

And on most other social media platforms.

America stops their funding for WHO next July.

Then it will be the United Nations - or at least a complete restructure.

EgoFG · 28-07-2020, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by FPV8U

I don’t care for the politics of the situation abroad, I want to know why if this stuff works we aren’t in Australia doing something about it, there are hundreds of elderly people in homes that are either infected or at risk of being infected which could have potentially been avoided or minimised for minimal cost.

I heard that Mr+Mrs Hanks were given hydroxychloroquine, she complained.
But they are risk category and are alive.

My point is

1) that there was scientific theory that drove that (I thought the idea originated in Europe).

2) It has been used in Australia with anecdotal success (Hanks)

EgoFG · 28-07-2020, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by cs123

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Maybe we need to take a light...a very powerful light.... and somehow get it inside the patient....like through the skin or by some other means....

This is an example of Trumps problem solving technique, it is called brainstorming - it works very well ... but best if a US president does not do it on Camera.

In an interesting note - he is describing an already existing medical procedure. (search "UV Blood Treatment")

And Hydrogen Peroxide is also used as an intravenous antiseptic

I do not vouch for this site, but it gives enough info for you to know what to search to find if these are acceptable/recognised medical treatments
https://elitehealthyliving.com/uv-li...s-in-the-body/

zilo · 28-07-2020, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by leesa

Because it doesn't work. Studies show patients end up with more heart and liver problems among the people who took it.

You are stating that as a consequence of an FDA approved anti malarial drug being administered Covid patients develop heart and liver problems that otherwise would not have occurred?

Go ahead...make my day and prove it?

T3rminator · 28-07-2020, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by zilo

You are stating that as a consequence of an FDA approved anti malarial drug being administered Covid patients develop heart and liver problems that otherwise would not have occurred?

Go ahead...make my day and prove it?

Are you guys talking about hydrowhateveryoucallit? My mum has lupus and she was put on it many years ago. It messed up her thyroids and nearly made her blind. Went off it and recovered somewhat.

Sure, if you are about to die and you have no options then take it. But it's not recommended for normal patients with cv. It'll do more harm than good. Remember most cv patients actually recover.

HIPO · 29-07-2020, 08:48 AM

I see Twatter came down on Trump Jr for posting that vid ..... same platform that refuses to take down peeps promoting pedophilia....

**Polyal** · 29-07-2020, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by HIPO

... same platform that refuses to take down peeps promoting pedophilia....

??? Evidence?

HIPO · 29-07-2020, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

??? Evidence?

Search Twitter pedo's......... cant you guys dig now & then, i feel like your Mother!

**russellw** · 29-07-2020, 09:33 AM

367 new cases for Australia and 6 deaths sees the CMR rises to 1.091% and active cases rise to 5,824. NSW recorded 14, SA and WA 1 each and the balance were in Victoria.

1 new case and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.413% and active cases remain at 21.

The UK recorded 581 new cases and 119 deaths yesterday so the CMR rises to 15.257%.

Just over 61k new cases in the USA yesterday and 1,227 deaths sees CMR down to 3.408% and active cases at 48.4% with the raw numbers still rising. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences.

Other notable points:
The USA passes 150k deaths;
Asia passes 4M cases;
The USA completes 55M, India 17M and the UK 15M tests;

Libya (190), Israel (2,308) and Colombia (10,284) all recorded new daily highs, those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.

Globally, the number of new infections has been decreasing this week albeit not by enough to reverse the direction of the trend line but any downward trend has to be considered a good one.

**Polyal** · 29-07-2020, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by HIPO

Search Twitter pedo's......... cant you guys dig now & then, i feel like your Mother!

yeah that will go down great with my work IT department.

How about people post links to back up their wild accusations?

T3rminator · 29-07-2020, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by blueoval

Funny how if it comes from Trump, its crapped on by all MSM networks, but if it comes from anyone else THEY view as credible, its front page news, regardless of the truth of the subject.

I think its because he called it a hoax for a couple of months, and also praised Xi for how he handled the outbreak and for co-operating, then did a massive 360. He lost all credibility during that phase and its hard to peg it back, even though some of what he is saying now may have merit. That's the problem. You tell so many fibs and half truths, then when something that might be true and important comes out your mouth, no one believes it.

I'm predicting that twatter will get heavily censored or even shut down prior to Nov.

**Polyal** · 29-07-2020, 09:40 AM

Speaking of China, and there will always be doubt on their stats, but how are they travelling? Dot hey have a second wave?

T3rminator · 29-07-2020, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

Speaking of China, and there will always be doubt on their stats, but how are they travelling? Dot hey have a second wave?

I don't know about mainland, I think there are a few spot fires. But news from relatives in HK indicates they are having a 3rd wave. And its worse than the 1st and 2nd. Apparently it is sourced back to sea or aircrew members and domestic helpers, then add complacency to help the spread.

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...scariest-surge

And here, air crew members seen mingling in tourist areas whilst awaiting test results....

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...eas-pilot-seen