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Old 13-11-2016, 04:54 PM   #481
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Ghia5L using logic and facts in this thread is pointless these people dont care about that there only happy the leftys have been put in there place some how? and that trump is gonna destroy some system? that they apparently dont like still not sure what that is it involves some main stream media people because they have opinons? not being able to say what they want like in a democracy? and exporting muslims for some reason.
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that they apparently dont like still not sure what that is it involves some main stream media people because they have opinons?
the medias job is to report, and THATS IT. they don,t have opinions.

but i see it obvious that wish to blur the facts, that has been that form all along, yes the people voted, get over it.
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Old 13-11-2016, 05:38 PM   #485
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if the media have an opinion whats the problem people dont have to listen to and realistically there owned by people who have agendas so if the pay up thats how it is complaining about it is pointless is it really the media that's the problem or the morons who listen to it.
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are you a mexican? three lines and no grammar marks. doesn,t make much sense mate?
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are you a mexican? three lines and no grammar marks. doesn,t make much sense mate?
wow and you think facebook leftys are bad its the grammar nazis
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Hey lpgking22 who would you vote for and why?
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wow and you think facebook leftys are bad its the grammar nazis
i never said that. are you a lefty?

just saying, type in proper english. trying to understand you.
its not hard.
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Fair dinkum some you blokes snipe at each other worse than a bunch of school girls!

Personally I'm looking forward to the next 4 years. If you actually watch his interviews you'll see he's actually pretty bright and is different to what he is portrayed as. By all means far from perfect but not the worst either.
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Old 13-11-2016, 10:49 PM   #493
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maybe politicians have been far too conservative in todays day and age.

Times have changed drastically and perhaps politics have been a bit dated?

I sure time will tell but as others have said maybe give the guy a chance?

After all, he cant do any worst than the "Bush's" imo
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it's not college educated voters if that's what you think, it's the system of how votes are counted and its always been that way. Is it flawed now because you don't like the winner? The system is designed to allow the "smaller" states and population centres to have a say in the outcome otherwise if it were based on the popular vote, the likes of new yorks, California's etc would decide the election every time because of their large populations.
Yeah I understand how the college system works, largely, my commentary dealt with the often weird apprioach of individual states to the electors. My point responding to a previous poster stands that due to an antiquated out dated proxy electoral system the larger majority of voters were not fed up, the majority of voting Americans actually didn't vote for the republicans and trump.
I acknowledge the system is there to game for both all sides and they both tried, the swing voting states with disproportionate college electors to population were heavily campaigned in by both major players. But its only been a handful of times the candidate with less votes has actually won.
And why should the larger more populated states have a less per capita representation than more sparcely populated states. they are all governed by the same federal government, yet some have greater say.
I dont have an opinion on who was better to win. Both were flawed and like where I live, I'd be voting for one of the other 100+ candidates and not a major./
What is interesting is the college electors are not bound by law to vote in December for Trump, while also rare there have been occasions where the college electors have not followed the 'will of the voters'

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just wanted to say i,m amazed at how this whole thing has gone, (Hollywood couldn,t write this script) and the complete hypocrisy of the democrats voters (Clinton ) , the election results and the hypocrisy and behavior of the democrats after the elections, what a bunch of commies! if clinton had a brain you might think she would make a press conference and ask for calm. someone has been shot now.

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Yeah I understand how the college system works, largely, my commentary dealt with the often weird apprioach of individual states to the electors. My point responding to a previous poster stands that due to an antiquated out dated proxy electoral system the larger majority of voters were not fed up, the majority of voting Americans actually didn't vote for the republicans and trump.
I acknowledge the system is there to game for both all sides and they both tried, the swing voting states with disproportionate college electors to population were heavily campaigned in by both major players. But its only been a handful of times the candidate with less votes has actually won.
And why should the larger more populated states have a less per capita representation than more sparcely populated states. they are all governed by the same federal government, yet some have greater say.
I dont have an opinion on who was better to win. Both were flawed and like where I live, I'd be voting for one of the other 100+ candidates and not a major./
What is interesting is the college electors are not bound by law to vote in December for Trump, while also rare there have been occasions where the college electors have not followed the 'will of the voters'

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Differing needs/perceptions/values maybe? I can't imagine that the mid-western states have the same agenda as Californians...

I'm sure that similar electoral outcomes have happened here...
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Differing needs/perceptions/values maybe? I can't imagine that the mid-western states have the same agenda as Californians...

I'm sure that similar electoral outcomes have happened here...
You ***** and moan here that minorities are outspoken and over represented but elsewhere its ok.

Mid west states are a minority, but they have a larger per capita sway. And its antiquated circa 1780 system
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You ***** and moan here that minorities are outspoken and over represented but elsewhere its ok.

Mid west states are a minority, but they have a larger per capita sway. And its antiquated circa 1780 system
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There is a big difference between an electoral minority winning and a small group of minorities trying to push their own agenda on the majority.

I was simply trying to answer a question you asked, as to why this situation exists, in a non-partisan way, but whatever...

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For Australia, yes I have to agree.

As for the USA, we will have to wait for a week or so after after the January 20th inauguration to see if this is true !
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The main thing is that people may be able to voice there opinions with Trump in power, but under Hilary communism and a lot of the mind games that the Nazis worked with brainwashing people was truly on the cards.
The media had a hand in bringing the Nazis and Communist to power as well you fools !

Most people can't comprehend such, because they have never been educated on the in depth history and they don't teach the reasons "why" why why why ! such things had come about, if you ask the question "why" on every possible point on any subject of any such history, you may have some type of education, but the dribble they teach is mainly worthless simple information like names dates and then more childish ignorant dribble about some battle information that has nothing to do with the big picture or foundations of why the whole thing was truly taking place. so your so called education is mainly worthless dribble and the reason is because your government does not want you truly educated.
Governments are all about the business of there control.

Any person who restricts what people have to say is just a degenerate fool, the media have been caught out on this big time and a lot of the stuff on the Net is restricted big time due to Political Correct Nazis that are everywhere pushing there moronic Nazi type weight around over the people, they work to cut all the peoples views out that they don't want to hear, the poor bastards thought they had it in the bag and had fooled everyone or scared the rest into submission with there heavy handed belligerent dictating hogwash pushing others around, so as to only see one point of view !!!! but a lot can't see they have been duped, no wonder the German people could not see it when the socialist Hitler came about spinning crap as well, not to mention all the cunning that lead up to communism and they don't truly educate you on how such morons got away with all that deranged madness as well.

People are just so stupid ! freedom of speech is the number one thing to a Healthy democracy and once you start restricting total free speech your on the path to becoming enslaved.
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In context of the article determine what Defcon means.
Identify the source if the rating, and what its really based on.
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You feeling a bit butt hurt because your progressive world is collapsing JP???
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Collapsing? More like it's suffered an anomaly.

Wonderful "sore winner" tone you've got there, btw.

As for DEFCON ratings, it would be interesting to see a graph or table detailing how the DEFCON levels have changed historically, since it's a privately-sourced rating which the US Govt sometimes refers to.
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Far from it mate, wouldn't have voted for her party. I agree with the sentiment behind brexit and trump's victory, I'm not a fan of the man or his politics. However I cant sit by when misinformation is spruked as news or fact.
The article refers to the defcon warning system, which is a privately owned thing. Which is a description in itself giving too much credence to its importance as its a community blog whose rating is determined by a gut feeling about bloggers thoughts. Visit the pages and discover advertising for seedy pursuits.
Of course it's name sounds like the DEFCon of the joint military leaders and probably deliberately meant to mislead.
Oh and do you really think progressive thought has now been quashed? Because of one election, in one country.
Lets see how this pans out, ill live my progressive life, you live your traditional one and see who ends up happiest!
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What problem do you have with "PROGRESS" ?

By definition it means betterment, positive advances and better outcomes for all.

What Dark Old Age would you wish to revert to to satisfy your insecurities over "PROGRESS" ?
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