Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated.

Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > General Topics > Non Ford Related Community Forums > The Bar

The Bar For non Automotive Related Chat

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 17-12-2020, 06:19 PM   #481
Mr_G6ET
Ford G6ET FG MkII
 
Mr_G6ET's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: W.A Cap. Nth. Sub.
Posts: 485
Default Re: Ambitious China

Quote:
Originally Posted by MITCHAY View Post
The mining companies have the leverage here and would have no apetite to change the pricing model at the moment. Enjoy it while they can and there is potential to drive the price up further.

The downside is that assuming demand stays the same their steel exports price would go up but I don't know how exposed to that we are and if we have capacity to make more here.
Watching the ABC at the moment, analysts forecast the price to stay hig, Brazil for e.g cant take our place due to supply capacity and Covid

'medium to long term no change

Iron ore projects here in WA are progressing
Mr_G6ET is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 18-12-2020, 09:32 PM   #482
MITCHAY
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Canberra
Posts: 13,448
Default Re: Ambitious China

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_G6ET View Post
Watching the ABC at the moment, analysts forecast the price to stay hig, Brazil for e.g cant take our place due to supply capacity and Covid

'medium to long term no change

Iron ore projects here in WA are progressing
Milk them as long as we can because once alternative supply is an option they won't give a **** about us.

There are reports about power shortages in China which is concerning. We have no beef with the Chinese people, they have no vote in all of this.

Their unelected CCP government though are a bunch of ****s. Looks like we may be winning the battle at the moment if not the war.
MITCHAY is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-12-2020, 09:49 PM   #483
LG17
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
LG17's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Taromeo
Posts: 10,587
Default Re: Ambitious China

Seems their ambition is being outweighed by their ability to supply simple necessities like electricity...
Some of their population are freezing in the dark
LG17 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 18-12-2020, 10:12 PM   #484
MITCHAY
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Canberra
Posts: 13,448
Default Re: Ambitious China

Quote:
Originally Posted by LG17 View Post
Seems their ambition is being outweighed by their ability to supply simple necessities like electricity...
Some of their population are freezing in the dark
I don't like that ordinary people are copping it over there like here but it seems they are looking like shooting themselves in the foot to spite us. Unlike us they can't vote dickheads out.

I can't say the cabinet reshuffle today fills me with any confidence. If China are not picking up the phone, then get on a ****en plane and knock on the door.

That way you can say you did what you could and the ball is in their court. Should have done it months ago

I personally think it is ridiculous that there seems to have been no contact at all for ages if what has been reported is true. Whatever the tensions that is stupid.
MITCHAY is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-12-2020, 11:31 PM   #485
Itsme
Experienced Member
 
Itsme's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Australasia
Posts: 7,683
Default Re: Ambitious China

Quote:
Originally Posted by MITCHAY View Post
I don't like that ordinary people are copping it over there like here but it seems they are looking like shooting themselves in the foot to spite us. Unlike us they can't vote dickheads out.

I can't say the cabinet reshuffle today fills me with any confidence. If China are not picking up the phone, then get on a ****en plane and knock on the door.

That way you can say you did what you could and the ball is in their court. Should have done it months ago

I personally think it is ridiculous that there seems to have been no contact at all for ages if what has been reported is true. Whatever the tensions that is stupid.
Honestly how do you talk to a belligerent government that is intent on punishing us.
Itsme is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
2 users like this post:
Old 18-12-2020, 11:56 PM   #486
MITCHAY
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Canberra
Posts: 13,448
Default Re: Ambitious China

Quote:
Originally Posted by Officemanager View Post
Honestly how do you talk to a belligerent government that is intent on punishing us.
Always try to keep the communication lines open, even if its hostile. The PM, FM and trade minister should at least try knock on the door and so what if don't get an answer. It would be a good use of our RAAF VIP fleet

Any country would see that as a good faith. If they tell them to **** off after coming all that way then we know for sure they have no intent to mend fences.
MITCHAY is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 19-12-2020, 08:57 AM   #487
tweeked
N/A all the way
 
tweeked's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 3,459
Default Re: Ambitious China

Quote:
Originally Posted by MITCHAY View Post
Always try to keep the communication lines open, even if its hostile. The PM, FM and trade minister should at least try knock on the door and so what if don't get an answer. It would be a good use of our RAAF VIP fleet

Any country would see that as a good faith. If they tell them to **** off after coming all that way then we know for sure they have no intent to mend fences.
Yeah they don’t answer so fly there without an invitation? It doesn’t work that way. They don’t care, they don’t think like you do. Nothing short of us bowing to their requests will do. Throw all of our resources behind supporting business building new trading partners. Their entire MO is not compatible with ours.
__________________
BA GT
5.88 litres of Modular Boss Powered Muscle
300++ RWKW N/A on 98 octane on any dyno, happy or sad, on any day, with any operator you choose - 12.39@115.5 full weight

tweeked is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
2 users like this post:
Old 19-12-2020, 11:36 AM   #488
Itsme
Experienced Member
 
Itsme's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Australasia
Posts: 7,683
Default Re: Ambitious China

Quote:
Originally Posted by MITCHAY View Post
Always try to keep the communication lines open, even if its hostile. The PM, FM and trade minister should at least try knock on the door and so what if don't get an answer. It would be a good use of our RAAF VIP fleet

Any country would see that as a good faith. If they tell them to **** off after coming all that way then we know for sure they have no intent to mend fences.
Be fair to say the Australian government is in constant contact with China but just a matter time when both parties can come to the table with an amicable solution, there would be a lot of communications happening with China and our Australian diplomat staff to resolve this.
Itsme is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Reply


Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 07:48 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL